Volcano
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I have 2 solid valve sets one of which is over 10 years old and came with my Volcano, the second is a spare. Neither of them have ever leaked other than the miniscule amount that can occur putting on the mouthpiece. The Volcano still works perfectly. I wish it had an air filter but the original design didn't include one, unless it is inside the unit and not accessible.
Poostuff
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Neither valves leak however the seals will degrade over a period of time depending on usage. Both come with extra fittings & O-rings allowing you to replace if needed. The solid valve bags require a small amount of assembly & the easy valves come ready to use but cost 4x as much.
In my opinion the best thing about the Volcano is that it gives visible vapor regardless of the quality of product you're using. In my experience not all vaporizers even the high end ones will do that. That's why I keep it, just in case.
DorianGray
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my volcano with easy valve never leaks.
Nope. They were not the wrong way around. I don't think they would fit any other way since the bottom of the clips go into the legs of the chamber.
Moving on to something else, I think my grind is to fine. I notice that material gets through the top screen and into the upper part of the herb chamber, which means it might be getting blown into the bag.
Do they make a finer screen for the top? Is this normal for material to get passed the top screen?
Poostuff
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Bubblers don't seem to make too much difference. You can hold the easy valve onto both 14 & 18mm hydratubes without adapters & get a good seal. I don't find it any better with water but some people prefer it.
SamuraiSam
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I have owned a Solid Valve equipped Digital Volcano for over 5 years and I don't EVER have problems with it leaking. The only time it leaks is when the valve assembly is really dirty and is way overdue for a cleaning. Other than that, everything continues to perform flawlessly. I have had thousands of sessions with it, and it never fails to perform. That is what I would expect from a unit that cost me about $800 when new. I am a satisfied customer.
h3rbalist
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Well they do, and you can.
SamuraiSam
Extraction Technician
No, all plastics used for all parts of the Volcano are high heat safe.
Jman, you've raised so many problems about the Volcano that in half a decade of ownership and use I have never heard of before, and yet you can't post any pictures to show the problems you're having so that we or S&B could help you?
The problems you're having sound like simple user error, and if you put some pictures or video up of the issues you're having, I bet we could solve them.
Or convince you that there's no actual issue, like the last post you made about ceramic induced silicosis dangers
Jman, you've raised so many problems about the Volcano that in half a decade of ownership and use I have never heard of before, and yet you can't post any pictures to show the problems you're having so that we or S&B could help you?
The problems you're having sound like simple user error, and if you put some pictures or video up of the issues you're having, I bet we could solve them.
Or convince you that there's no actual issue, like the last post you made about ceramic induced silicosis dangers
SecureSwede
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Hey I was finally able to give my volcano a thorough testing last night, went through about 20 bags with two friends and we were just toasted the whole night.
1. My filling chamber did not snap down perfectly, the bag was able to knock it over due to the weight of it on its side, so that leads me to wonder how I can fix this or if I should just fork out 10 bucks for a new chamber.
2. Where are some cheap replacement bags, I would like a small one but also a 3 foot or something similar in size for bigger groups.
1. My filling chamber did not snap down perfectly, the bag was able to knock it over due to the weight of it on its side, so that leads me to wonder how I can fix this or if I should just fork out 10 bucks for a new chamber.
2. Where are some cheap replacement bags, I would like a small one but also a 3 foot or something similar in size for bigger groups.
DoubleVanos
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Yes they have a very fine screen set, most good Vape shops will have it.
LiLRUBYDOLL
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I have always been intringued by bag vaporizers and have tried pretty much every kind except them. Which would you say is the best? The herbalizer with its bag? Though I see extra screens aren't in stock and that would be a problem. Or is the volcano the best. I am not expecting a bag vaporizer to be the best vape but do you guys think it is worthy & can produce big clouds?
No, all plastics used for all parts of the Volcano are high heat safe.
Jman, you've raised so many problems about the Volcano that in half a decade of ownership and use I have never heard of before, and yet you can't post any pictures to show the problems you're having so that we or S&B could help you?
The problems you're having sound like simple user error, and if you put some pictures or video up of the issues you're having, I bet we could solve them.
Or convince you that there's no actual issue, like the last post you made about ceramic induced silicosis dangers
Thanks for the info on the plastic. SB gave me the rundown, it can handle the heat.
I'm not really a fan of you attacking me because of concerns I had on previous posts. Laugh all you want, but that's what this forum is for.
Moving on, the issues I was having were not user error. I know this because my new herb chamber snaps down perfectly, I am sending the defective one back for warranty.
Just like this recent post in #1:
This user's chamber also didn't snap down. This may be a issues with newer units? Maybe. Either way, I'm happy I ordered a new valve and I will be sending the defective one back.
Another thing, pictures weren't necessary unless you can't picture the herb chamber sitting on the volcano loosely.
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SamuraiSam
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Volcanos have been producing big clouds for over a decade. The Herbalizer is a much newer unit I haven't tried and couldn't tell you about the quality of it's vapor. I have tried the Herbalaire which is also a bag capable unit. It has no valve system so you suck on a sticky gooey thing you have to put your finger on to seal, it takes a long time to fill, and has a cumbersome external pump.
The Volcano is a nice polished package that delivers copious amounts of vapor (IMHO it's not all that tasy compared to many newer vapes out there) and the biggest reason I use it is because of the Solid Valve. I like that valve system a lot.
@Jman5280 , I apologize for the hostile way you took my post. The angle I approached your questions with is one where I genuinely didn't know what your problem is, and thought the easiest way to proceed / resolve it would be with pictures and or video. I've also only used the Easy valve a few times, and so I dont have as great of a mental picture of it as I do the solid valve.
Sometimes text doesn't translate emotion properly, and my comment at the end wasn't meant to insult you, I was trying to lighten the mood with a joke.
I'm sorry you feel insulted by the way I came across, and I'll try to pay more attention to how my posts can be perceived in the future. FC's #1 rule is Be Nice and I didn't follow that rule with my previous post very well. Apologies J.I am glad to hear your issue is resolved, and that your new chamber is working better!
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SecureSwede
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What are everyones packing techniques? I was able to get great vapor last night but even when I cranked my dial to around ~8 I wasnt getting that thick of bags all the time. I was thinking this might be due to the chamber I have not snapping down on the volcano.
DoubleVanos
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I personally don't pack it at all. I use as fine a grind as possible and fill the chamber to about 5-8 mm in thickness, about .4 grams. My go to Temp on the classic is 6. Depending on quality of the flowers, I'll get about 6-7 nice thick bags. I'll end up with the dial at 7-7.5 on the last bag. I don't usually go above this temp, the vapour becomes almost too thick. There's a time and place for those type of bags
.Also stirring the chamber around bag 3, nets a nice vapor boost and regrinding the material will let you get even more out of your flowers. This is all using the solid valve. YMMV.
olivianewtonjohn
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Snap down? Is this something to do with solid valve? My easy valve doesnt snap on, kind of just goes on gently. I mean you can feel it sitting in the groove perfectly but its not a very noticeable "snap"
I have no complaints, mine extracts amazingly. Could it be a a herb quality issue?
I have no complaints, mine extracts amazingly. Could it be a a herb quality issue?
SecureSwede
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I bought my volcano used and it came with an easy valve filling chamber and one standard easy valve along with one aftermarket one. The filling chamber doesnt snap on with the easy valve, but apparently @olivianewtonjohn also makes a point that his doesnt snap on either.I personally don't pack it at all. I use as fine a grind as possible and fill the chamber to about 5-8 mm in thickness, about .4 grams. My go to Temp on the classic is 6. Depending on quality of the flowers, I'll get about 6-7 nice thick bags. I'll end up with the dial at 7-7.5 on the last bag. I don't usually go above this temp, the vapour becomes almost too thick. There's a time and place for those type of bags
Also stirring the chamber around bag 3, nets a nice vapor boost and regrinding the material will let you get even more out of your flowers. This is all using the solid valve. YMMV.
I plan on buying one of the starter sets but I cannot decide if I want the solid valve or easy valve... Some say the solid valve requires less herb which would be nice, but do they perform any different than an easy valve? I was thinking if I bought a solid valve set I would have an easy and solid valve to use but I always wonder if my easy valve chamber is broken. Like I said before it can be knocked over quite easily so Im curious if its worth it to just get a new easy valve system or switch it up with the solid valve.
Is there a way to test if the easy valve fits correctly? I tried fiddling with the clips on the bottom to give a more secure connection, I just wonder why my chamber can fall over if a bag is inflating on its side.
olivianewtonjohn
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What size bag? You should try new metal clips, maybe that will provide more resistance so it doesnt fall over.
SecureSwede
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normal sized bag, is there somewhere I can buy new clips?
nevermind I just found their wear and tear kit, ill be buying that for the easy valve and probably buy a solid valve set just to have.
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SamuraiSam
Extraction Technician
The solid valve's chamber is a slightly smaller diameter if i recall correctly. That and the plunger might be the reason why it's a bit more efficient. I do not grind my herb nearly as finely with my Volcano as I would with my MFLB and not quite as fine as my Cloud Evo. I fill my chamber anywhere from just enough of a sprinkling to cover the screen, up to half the depth of the chamber. That's a bit more wasteful. With a small sprinkling I can get 2-3 bags of good vapor and with 4x the amount it's 3 bags of great vapor and one bag of okay staleish vapor at 390 or 400f.
(my bags are not 'standard sized') YMMV
(my bags are not 'standard sized') YMMV
SecureSwede
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I just ordered a solid valve set along with replacement clips and what not for my easy valve set. I think it will be nice to use the solid valve for personal use and use my easy valve for the group setting. Very excited to try it out!
I pack mine 75% full and start at 5, and I go up to 7-7.5. I usually get 4-6 bags out of a pack. I save the ABV for deserts to be made on weekends.
I had the same issue with my chamber not clamping down. You can try the new clips that came with your easy valve kit (assuming that's what you have). I noticed my bags filling up slower because air was literally moving/spinning the herb chamber unless I held the chamber down to the socket on top of the volcano. I was definitely losing vapor.
*does anyone else notice that material gets through the top screen and into the upper tube of he herb hammer? I'm guessing if it's getting through the top screen, it is also getting into the bags. Does this mean my grind is to fine? Or is this common?