jbm
Not a Vapman “beta tester”
I’ll be testing it with the Camouflet Inductor as well.
VerdaVap - An analogue butane powered ball vape, designed for use in a water pipe.
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sedentree
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Maybe for taking the lid off, the solution provided with the Thermal Accumulator would be sufficient, which is one of those 3ml silicone storage pots like these: https://recommendedvapesupplies.co.uk/products/2ml-silicone-dab-pot-x3?
gmocooties
Well-Known Member
Today was the day! I've run about 5 bowls through it so far (some lovely Jealousy) and I've been loving it. It does a great job of holding onto it's heat, so it's pretty easy to cash a bowl in one heat cycle in my experience. The heat retention is almost on par with wireless ball vapes I've used, which really surprised me given the Verdavap's size. Some great, terpy hits at the start of a bowl too 
I've been using a Blazer Big Buddy, and heating for 15-20 seconds maybe? I'll admit I don't really count in seconds so take that with a grain of salt. It seems to be a very forgiving vape though.
The form factor really lends itself to dry pipe & J-hook usage, which is exactly what I'd hoped for. I've actually been running it with the Elev8r's glass 'wand' (sans screen) and it's worked a treat so far:
It really is a gorgeous little unit
The extra time you've spent on the finishing has really paid off, Reef. The wood turned out beautifully too. Cheers!
I've been using a Blazer Big Buddy, and heating for 15-20 seconds maybe? I'll admit I don't really count in seconds so take that with a grain of salt. It seems to be a very forgiving vape though.The form factor really lends itself to dry pipe & J-hook usage, which is exactly what I'd hoped for. I've actually been running it with the Elev8r's glass 'wand' (sans screen) and it's worked a treat so far:
It really is a gorgeous little unit
The extra time you've spent on the finishing has really paid off, Reef. The wood turned out beautifully too. Cheers!
El Duderino
The Dude abides.
Ok, reading these reviews makes me want to get one too. 
When will it be available again?
When will it be available again?
gmocooties
Well-Known Member
Yeah this is the big one for me. Hoping to get an inductor one of these days - the more of my collection it works with the better
If anyone's curious, the Ispire Wand is able to heat the VerdaVap, but it takes a while - a full cycle (until it times out) of heating can generate vapour, but it's definitely at the wispier end of what the VV is capable of. So not very practical, but feasible I guess?
gmocooties
Well-Known Member
On that note, it also fits perfectly inside the CC Vulcan bowl, which I guess could be used to heat the VV if you're running the bowl with a coil. I might give it a go, but it's so snug that I'd worry about it sticking and being a nightmare to pull out!
Yoooo!
This is so awesome to see! I've got a big grin on my face!
I'm so stoked everyone has started receiving their device's. Even more stoked to see that people are liking them!
I'm buckled atm, had about 4 or 5 bowls through the VV over the past couple hours while on a Livestream podcast thing with VapeHQ. I think I join in about 30 mins in.
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So I've read through everyone's posts, will try respond to the questions here lmk if I forget any. Yogi has been tinkering around with the forge over the last day and holy moly has he got that thing dialled in with the VV! Makes me want to get one, but the price ahhhhh. We might post up some of his videos here soon? He posted some stuff to discord ripping thick clouds.
The hot swapping is a pain ATM, no solution yet. What I'm designing is a silicone insert that slots into a metal or wood hollowed out cylinder. Then you slot the silicone over the VV, and when you rotate, I'm designing a mechanical action into the silicone piece that will collapse and apply additional axial for into the body of the VV... Giving extra gripping force. Also the wider body of the cylinder part will give more leverage and allow for easier unscrewing for those with dexterity issues. I'll have some additional indentations and hand hold parts for increased grip.
Heating with the wand isn't practical. In a pinch, sure. But not really ideal. People were saying in the discord that two full heat cycles will give alright vapor. But really, you're pushing your wand to its limits.
Super cool to hear about people hearing theirs with coils and such too! You guys are the first testing this stuff out so it's really cool to hear!
I've had people mentioned it'd be cool to have a metal adapter to suit a 25mm coil. That could for sure happen!
If anyone has any feedback on the design, please let me know and your advice may very well make it into future versions. So many of the little features of the device have come from the community.
I'm super proud of the device where it is right now. It puts a smile on my face when I pick it up.... And this is the worst it's ever going to be.
This is the start of something great, and it's all build on community input. Shit this thing 100% wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the few dozen people who were like "cool I'd buy that" when I posted a vid of the dodgy garage rig prototype I made back in October last year. They forced me to turn this into something I could be proud to sell, and I am.
A vape by the people for the people
If anyone has any questions, let me know! Happy to answer.
This is so awesome to see! I've got a big grin on my face!
I'm so stoked everyone has started receiving their device's. Even more stoked to see that people are liking them!
I'm buckled atm, had about 4 or 5 bowls through the VV over the past couple hours while on a Livestream podcast thing with VapeHQ. I think I join in about 30 mins in.
VapeHeadQuarters VerdaVap first impressions
first impressions of Verdavaphttps://verdavap.com/
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So I've read through everyone's posts, will try respond to the questions here lmk if I forget any. Yogi has been tinkering around with the forge over the last day and holy moly has he got that thing dialled in with the VV! Makes me want to get one, but the price ahhhhh. We might post up some of his videos here soon? He posted some stuff to discord ripping thick clouds.
The hot swapping is a pain ATM, no solution yet. What I'm designing is a silicone insert that slots into a metal or wood hollowed out cylinder. Then you slot the silicone over the VV, and when you rotate, I'm designing a mechanical action into the silicone piece that will collapse and apply additional axial for into the body of the VV... Giving extra gripping force. Also the wider body of the cylinder part will give more leverage and allow for easier unscrewing for those with dexterity issues. I'll have some additional indentations and hand hold parts for increased grip.
Heating with the wand isn't practical. In a pinch, sure. But not really ideal. People were saying in the discord that two full heat cycles will give alright vapor. But really, you're pushing your wand to its limits.
Super cool to hear about people hearing theirs with coils and such too! You guys are the first testing this stuff out so it's really cool to hear!
I've had people mentioned it'd be cool to have a metal adapter to suit a 25mm coil. That could for sure happen!
If anyone has any feedback on the design, please let me know and your advice may very well make it into future versions. So many of the little features of the device have come from the community.
I'm super proud of the device where it is right now. It puts a smile on my face when I pick it up.... And this is the worst it's ever going to be.
This is the start of something great, and it's all build on community input. Shit this thing 100% wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the few dozen people who were like "cool I'd buy that" when I posted a vid of the dodgy garage rig prototype I made back in October last year. They forced me to turn this into something I could be proud to sell, and I am.
A vape by the people for the people
If anyone has any questions, let me know! Happy to answer.
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AndyO
Well-Known Member
I'm super proud of the device where it is right now. It puts a smile on my face when I pick it up.... And this is the worst it's ever going to be.
This is the start of something great, and it's all build on community input. Shit this thing 100% wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the few dozen people who were like "cool I'd buy that" when I posted a vid of the dodgy garage rig prototype I made back in October last year. They forced me to turn this into something I could be proud to sell, and I am.
A vape by the people for the people
If anyone has any questions, let me know! Happy to answer.
I'm super proud that I'm in the ground level with version 1/1.5. I've never been adverse to adopting something early, but rarely do you receive an end product that feels so perfect.
For what you set out to achieve ie. a great, hard-hitting vape solution for people wanting to give up the bongs - I feel like you've done it man. Once you dial in your heat source, that's exactly what this device is.
VapeHeadQuarters VerdaVap first impressions
first impressions of Verdavaphttps://verdavap.com/
So I've read through everyone's posts, will try respond to the questions here lmk if I forget any. Yogi has been tinkering around with the forge over the last day and holy moly has he got that thing dialled in with the VV! Makes me want to get one, but the price ahhhhh. We might post up some of his videos here soon? He posted some stuff to discord ripping thick clouds.
The hot swapping is a pain ATM, no solution yet. What I'm designing is a silicone insert that slots into a metal or wood hollowed out cylinder. Then you slot the silicone over the VV, and when you rotate, I'm designing a mechanical action into the silicone piece that will collapse and apply additional axial for into the body of the VV... Giving extra gripping force. Also the wider body of the cylinder part will give more leverage and allow for easier unscrewing for those with dexterity issues. I'll have some additional indentations and hand hold parts for increased grip.
I watched the stream - regarding the QR code, the issue for me is that the envelope wasn't sealed. The QR code fell out of the envelope and was face down, and I'd sent your lovely Mrs an annoying email before I even realised the QR code was there. I'd just seal the envelope mate!
I like the fleshlight idea for a hotswapper. I've whinged about animal products in another thread, I've spoken in this thread about the potential for a silicone solution given it works quite well with the Slingstash - it sounds really good.
I'd be really keen to see a video of how it goes with the Forge; I'm also really keen for an adapter to use it portably on a Revolve stem. And I'll certainly be following along for any other future releases.
Congratulations man, you've produced something incredible. For something that, as you say, is currently the worst that it will ever be? This is an insanely good version 1 vaporiser.
Anyway, I'll stop rambling. I started typing because I've been using the VerdaVap all day and don't think I can get off my couch to go to bed...
AndyO
Well-Known Member
@VerdaVap I'd be curious to know how many orders (as a rough percentage) bought additional screens with their VerdaVap. And did people who didn't order extras only receive one?
Another observation after a couple of days of heavy use is that the screen gets seriously gunked up relatively quickly. (edit: whey I say "quickly", I don't mean it happens after 3 bowls; I mean it's fine after one bowl, it's fine after 3, it's fine after 7, it's fine after 10... and then the gunk will block your airflow almost immediately, whereby bowl number 11 is a really tough draw. It seems super sudden and immediate when it happens.)
Which is fine, that'll happen, and in my case I bought extra screens and can just include it in the nightly iso bath of my bong and adapters - but I wonder if there might not be a bit of lament among those who only have one screen. For future versions I think I'd really consider including at least two. (Obviously building the extra cost into the price.)
Also, I think you said on the stream last night that you were looking to try and dispatch another round of orders for Australians. Where did you land on that? If there was an opportunity to buy the Rosewood version to compliment the Maranti version, and to be able to rotate them as they cool, I'd seriously consider that I think.
Another observation after a couple of days of heavy use is that the screen gets seriously gunked up relatively quickly. (edit: whey I say "quickly", I don't mean it happens after 3 bowls; I mean it's fine after one bowl, it's fine after 3, it's fine after 7, it's fine after 10... and then the gunk will block your airflow almost immediately, whereby bowl number 11 is a really tough draw. It seems super sudden and immediate when it happens.)
Which is fine, that'll happen, and in my case I bought extra screens and can just include it in the nightly iso bath of my bong and adapters - but I wonder if there might not be a bit of lament among those who only have one screen. For future versions I think I'd really consider including at least two. (Obviously building the extra cost into the price.)
Also, I think you said on the stream last night that you were looking to try and dispatch another round of orders for Australians. Where did you land on that? If there was an opportunity to buy the Rosewood version to compliment the Maranti version, and to be able to rotate them as they cool, I'd seriously consider that I think.
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gmocooties
Well-Known Member
I can confirm that I only received the one screen, having ordered just the device and nothing else
I think the biggest reason for the screen clogging is the inner 'lip' that the screen sits on. Debris has a habit of getting wedged between this lip and the triangular elements on the outer edge of the screen. I imagine this could be improved by narrowing that inner lip? Assuming this is feasible? I don't think it's the design of the screen itself that's causing the issue.
For hot swapping, I've just been using a little synthetic leather loop I had lying around (it's actually a J-hook 'stand' but it's pretty bad at this, lol). A bit fiddly, but does what I need it to do!
Hmmmm ballpark guesstimate maybe 25% got additional filters.
Will have to have a think about the screen clogging up. Definitely there gets to be a bit of buildup around the outside part where it rests on the ledge. Might be able to fix that up for the next revision. Will have to have a think about it. We can't really just remove the lip otherwise there will be no "meat" to thread the handle into. Definitely open to community input as well
I can definitely throw in more filters in with it for future batches. I only had a limited amount this time round but will order larger volumes next time
As for batch 2 dates.... Not exactly sure just yet.
I have enough metal components currently to make about 40 more VerdaVaps. I have a little feeling that they won't last long. I've been getting a wild amount of interest through Instagram of all places.
After that we'll order another batch of metal from my factory.
We will be revising the handle design so it can be attached mechanically, without adhesive.
Also, if we figure out a potential solution to the screen clog, I can trial that in the future batch. Potentially having the parts parts of the lip where the thread isnt to be milled away in places, so maybe the filter is only resting on say 3 points of the "lip" part and the rest is milled away a few mm. That might make little annoying corners to clean through.
Anyway here is my VerdaVap in a new stabilised and dyed birch burl dress
Will have to have a think about the screen clogging up. Definitely there gets to be a bit of buildup around the outside part where it rests on the ledge. Might be able to fix that up for the next revision. Will have to have a think about it. We can't really just remove the lip otherwise there will be no "meat" to thread the handle into. Definitely open to community input as well
I can definitely throw in more filters in with it for future batches. I only had a limited amount this time round but will order larger volumes next time
As for batch 2 dates.... Not exactly sure just yet.
I have enough metal components currently to make about 40 more VerdaVaps. I have a little feeling that they won't last long. I've been getting a wild amount of interest through Instagram of all places.
After that we'll order another batch of metal from my factory.
We will be revising the handle design so it can be attached mechanically, without adhesive.
Also, if we figure out a potential solution to the screen clog, I can trial that in the future batch. Potentially having the parts parts of the lip where the thread isnt to be milled away in places, so maybe the filter is only resting on say 3 points of the "lip" part and the rest is milled away a few mm. That might make little annoying corners to clean through.
Anyway here is my VerdaVap in a new stabilised and dyed birch burl dress
Been following you I believe since you first posted on Reddit and was very intrigued. Very impressive looking device! Kicking myself right now for not jumping on initial drop! Definitely not going to miss your next drop! Congratulations on successful initial launch of the VerdaVap!
AndyO
Well-Known Member
Hmmmm ballpark guesstimate maybe 25% got additional filters.
Will have to have a think about the screen clogging up. Definitely there gets to be a bit of buildup around the outside part where it rests on the ledge. Might be able to fix that up for the next revision. Will have to have a think about it. We can't really just remove the lip otherwise there will be no "meat" to thread the handle into. Definitely open to community input as well
I can definitely throw in more filters in with it for future batches. I only had a limited amount this time round but will order larger volumes next time
It's worth thinking about, but definitely wait and see what others say before acting on it! One example is the Dynavap - whereas the VerdaVap has the "protruding edge" that the screen sits on, the Dynavap has an indentation that the screen sits in. That also allows the Dynavap to offer the half-bowl setting, which might be interesting to think about.
But all that said, maybe the answer isn't even a re-design, maybe the answer is just a second screen with the "base pack" so you can be using one while the other is in the cleaning phase. I dunno, that's why I'd wait to see what others thinki!
Anyway here is my VerdaVap in a new stabilised and dyed birch burl dress
That's friggen stunning man.
It's probably better for the brand to get them in more people's hands, hey? I'll let you use those 40 components for new customers, and I'll be back for my second one when you start investigating and selling some of these exotic woods. I'd love a purple heart to match my table top bong, but I suspect Purple Heart is almost impossible to colour match.
TheScamericann
Active Member
I've always been intimidated by coil powered ball vapes but this thing looks perfect. Wonder if it will work with BFG's Flare induction heater. If it does then a verda vap coupled with the dani fusion might be the end game for me.
Peacefrog78
Member
Wondering this also. I just ordered a flare to replace my wand for a tempest, a stunner and a Fusion2. If it can heat the VV well Im a buyer for sure.
Yep I like the idea of the indentation for the filter to slot into. We could do that and then under it, instead of the ledge where it currently sits, we have it tapered down to minimise spots for build-up. And include multiple filters in the pack.
Thanks mate I'm stoked with the look of it. I gave it a little shine up this evening while chipping away at batch 2 in the workshop.
Haven't seen anyone test it out with that IH yet. Maybe someone on here can test?
Yeah, I really only use the wide open airflow cap.
Here is a little show off video of my fancy burl VV
VerdaVap on Instagram: "Alright now I'm just showing off! #verdavap"
69 likes, 6 comments - verdavapau on June 30, 2024: "Alright now I'm just showing off! #verdavap".
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Cheers,
Reefy
Do you have the discord link to see that? thx
Well, I'd like to take this opportunity to congratulate you on your work and the many ways you've shared the process. I don't have a Verdavap yet, but it won't be long before I do.
Hi Duba!
Thanks so much.
The community really drives this thing.
In fact, I've just written out a whole big ass plea for help as per
### **
Help Us Improve VerdaVap! **
Hey VerdaGang,
First off, we want to extend a HUGE thank you to everyone who has purchased and supported VerdaVap. Your excitement and positive feedback have been incredibly motivating!
Honestly, even up until posting these things I was having doubts about whether they were actually good or not. I loved it, but imposter syndrome is real
As we continue to innovate and improve, we need your help. Your experiences and insights are invaluable in helping us refine and perfect our product. We’re committed to making VerdaVap the best it can be, and that’s where you come in!
### **We Need Your Critical Feedback:**
I truely mean this when I say, I will not take offence to any feedback given. I have a growth mindset and I'm here to give this my absolute all. If you think I have done a thing a stupid way, please do me a favour and let me know. Your input is critical.
We’re looking for detailed and constructive feedback on your experience with VerdaVap. Specifically, we’d love to hear about:
- **Performance:** How well does VerdaVap perform compared to your expectations? How does it compare to your other devices?
- **Design:** Any design elements you love or think could be improved?
- **Usability:** How user-friendly do you find the device? Any suggestions for making it easier to use?
- **Durability:** Have you encountered any issues with the build quality or durability?
- **Features:** Any features you wish VerdaVap had or think could be enhanced?
- **Other items/accessories:** Any other vape related shit you always wanted made a liiiiiiiitle bit better/different?
### **How to Provide Feedback:**
1. **Comment below:** Share your thoughts publically and bounce ideas off each other. I may not directly respond to every message, but know that they are all being read and carefully considered.
2. **DM Us:** If you prefer, send us a direct message with your feedback.
3. **Email:** You can also email us at [reef@verdavap.com].
### **What’s in It for You?**
Your feedback will directly influence future revisions of VerdaVap. Plus, we’re planning some exciting rewards and exclusive offers for our top contributors as a token of our appreciation! Think early access to upcoming gear... Prototype testing, etc.
### **Let’s Make VerdaVap Even Better Together!**
I'm proud of where the VerdaVap is right now. It puts a smile on my face, and this is the worst it will ever be.
Your voice is crucial in this journey. We’re committed to listening and making continuous improvements based on your input. Thank you for being an essential part of the VerdaVap family! Together we can make something great.
Jill and I are really looking forward to your feedback!
Regards,
Reefy
Thanks so much.
The community really drives this thing.
In fact, I've just written out a whole big ass plea for help as per
### **
Help Us Improve VerdaVap! **Hey VerdaGang,
First off, we want to extend a HUGE thank you to everyone who has purchased and supported VerdaVap. Your excitement and positive feedback have been incredibly motivating!
Honestly, even up until posting these things I was having doubts about whether they were actually good or not. I loved it, but imposter syndrome is real
As we continue to innovate and improve, we need your help. Your experiences and insights are invaluable in helping us refine and perfect our product. We’re committed to making VerdaVap the best it can be, and that’s where you come in!
### **We Need Your Critical Feedback:**
I truely mean this when I say, I will not take offence to any feedback given. I have a growth mindset and I'm here to give this my absolute all. If you think I have done a thing a stupid way, please do me a favour and let me know. Your input is critical.
We’re looking for detailed and constructive feedback on your experience with VerdaVap. Specifically, we’d love to hear about:
- **Performance:** How well does VerdaVap perform compared to your expectations? How does it compare to your other devices?
- **Design:** Any design elements you love or think could be improved?
- **Usability:** How user-friendly do you find the device? Any suggestions for making it easier to use?
- **Durability:** Have you encountered any issues with the build quality or durability?
- **Features:** Any features you wish VerdaVap had or think could be enhanced?
- **Other items/accessories:** Any other vape related shit you always wanted made a liiiiiiiitle bit better/different?
### **How to Provide Feedback:**
1. **Comment below:** Share your thoughts publically and bounce ideas off each other. I may not directly respond to every message, but know that they are all being read and carefully considered.
2. **DM Us:** If you prefer, send us a direct message with your feedback.
3. **Email:** You can also email us at [reef@verdavap.com].
### **What’s in It for You?**
Your feedback will directly influence future revisions of VerdaVap. Plus, we’re planning some exciting rewards and exclusive offers for our top contributors as a token of our appreciation! Think early access to upcoming gear... Prototype testing, etc.
### **Let’s Make VerdaVap Even Better Together!**
I'm proud of where the VerdaVap is right now. It puts a smile on my face, and this is the worst it will ever be.
Your voice is crucial in this journey. We’re committed to listening and making continuous improvements based on your input. Thank you for being an essential part of the VerdaVap family! Together we can make something great.
Jill and I are really looking forward to your feedback!
Regards,
Reefy
AndyO
Well-Known Member
I hope I'm not being a pain in the ass leaving feedback every time I think of something! I do really, really love the VerdaVap, the issues I've had with the screen, and with what I'm about to mention are so minor.
Anyway, I've been playing with the heating method of shooting the flame straight into the balls. A few observations - you can use a much smaller, more accurate, and much safer (for this method) torch like a Blazer, Ronxs, or even a cheapish Jobon, and you can still heat it in 40 seconds.
That's roughly twice as long as it takes using this "hit him in the balls" method with the can of gas and VV ignitor.
So it's a good option that's not too time consuming. I don't know what uses more gas, but having the visual indicator of the vapor using this method is a genuine advance on using the device, and it's a very safe method using these smaller dedicated torches. (Congrats if the person that first thought of that is on here!)
I do wonder though, if all the social media posts have the gas can, and if the VV ignitor is another product you can make money from... could we do something with the handle to make it a little safer to shoot flames down the stem?
I wouldn't propose changing the handle itself - I think the handle is beautiful, I wouldn't want to see it changed. But maybe the answer is some sort of firm silicone attachment to go on the handle that moves your hand further away from the flame?
(Now I'm off to remove the singed hair from my hand after the can went from it's normal blue flame to shooting a big orange one at me...)
Anyway, I've been playing with the heating method of shooting the flame straight into the balls. A few observations - you can use a much smaller, more accurate, and much safer (for this method) torch like a Blazer, Ronxs, or even a cheapish Jobon, and you can still heat it in 40 seconds.
That's roughly twice as long as it takes using this "hit him in the balls" method with the can of gas and VV ignitor.
So it's a good option that's not too time consuming. I don't know what uses more gas, but having the visual indicator of the vapor using this method is a genuine advance on using the device, and it's a very safe method using these smaller dedicated torches. (Congrats if the person that first thought of that is on here!)
I do wonder though, if all the social media posts have the gas can, and if the VV ignitor is another product you can make money from... could we do something with the handle to make it a little safer to shoot flames down the stem?
I wouldn't propose changing the handle itself - I think the handle is beautiful, I wouldn't want to see it changed. But maybe the answer is some sort of firm silicone attachment to go on the handle that moves your hand further away from the flame?
(Now I'm off to remove the singed hair from my hand after the can went from it's normal blue flame to shooting a big orange one at me...)
gmocooties
Well-Known Member
I'll have to give this a go! I brought my VV (and a few others) away with me on a work trip, but couldn't exactly bring a giant torch on the plane lol - so haven't really had the chance to use it while I've been away
Guess I'll go pick up a little jet lighter and play around! Packed a 'fat' mouthpiece (is that what Dynavap were calling it?) too to have a go at inhaling directly from the device.
And torches going berserk is the worst
Grummbler
OverVaped
Seeing all these comments and early reviews are making me so excited for batch 1 to arrive! Cannot wait to start share feedback on this beauty too 
And what a tease this is!! Exotic VVs look like a fantastic idea, count me in