VAS kicking in: Looking for a new, affordable wooden vape

[arb]

There's been a few Milaana 2's on auction through IG account "rbt.md". I can't recommend the Milaana enough, it's one of my favorites. There are some 3's available on the RBT website as well. The low heat option would be similar to the 2.

The Splinter has the same heater as the Milaana and would also be good affordable choice if you can find a box mod for a good price. RBT devices are something special and I highly recommend them.



I skipped the E-Nano (for now ha) because I was worried it wouldn't be able to keep up with my usage. I opted for an Alphadog which is being built right now and hit a little harder; @arb can confirm.

I am willing to bet a nickel on it.

 

[Likun]

Yeah the one from vapefiend is the RBT cooling stem so that will fit, not sure about the vaposhop one, and the dreamwood one will definitely NOT fit.

There are standard glass sizes for 19 mm joints, that refers to the width, but the length for a standard size is going to be 26mm (like the Dreamwood stem) or 22mm (which is what RBT Vapes used to be and what Splinter Z still is, but those old RBT stems will not fit regular splinters) so then the regular splinters are a custom 19 mm length as well, hence 19/19. So if it's not an official RBT stem or one made specifically to fit the regular splinter, then it has to be custom cut or sanded down to fit...

Tubo used to be 19/26 But I think now Tetra is also closer to 19/22, but yes different than this regular splinter's 19/19 so those stems will not fit (in fact the only one of those stems that fits for me, is the nub in my SplinterZ and Milaana2)

And the P80 is a fine mod, for the regular splinter, that's what I have my V2 on, running Arctic Fox configured for TCR temp control quite well! I would recommend Arctic Fox over Tubo software (as I am not having much luck trying to use that with a Splinter ZV1 on a G3D)

My V2 will arrive tomorrow and my P80 already arrived yesterday. Haven't opened it yet though.
May you give me some advice on how to set up the mod for the v2 as you're apparently using the exact same combination?
I've never done anything with a boxmod besides the tubo evic, which is already pre-set...

 

[Shit Snacks]

My V2 will arrive tomorrow and my P80 already arrived yesterday. Haven't opened it yet though.
May you give me some advice on how to set up the mod for the v2 as you're apparently using the exact same combination?
I've never done anything with a boxmod besides the tubo evic, which is already pre-set...

Sorry I don't really remember my instructions, I loaded Arctic Fox and then set it up on the computer with settings from @bossman that can be found searching the Splinter thread... I then used it at one temperature for a while, adjusting TCR value with locked resistance, to hone in the temp control that worked for me. You can also load tubo on the P80, but I don't know if it works quite as well as AF for Splinter TC...

 

[Likun]

Thanks anyways!
Does there come a manual with the splinter? Or is one to find online? Maybe I shoud read through the Splinter Thread first as it's only 25 pages. Have no idea about tcr values, resistance whatsoever yet.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Thanks anyways!
Does there come a manual with the splinter? Or is one to find online? Maybe I shoud read through the Splinter Thread first as it's only 25 pages. Have no idea about tcr values, resistance whatsoever yet.

It does come with a manual but there's nothing in there about setting up temp control, but it can get you started to use with wattage in power mode (which is how it was designed to be used anyway)

Also don't get too excited, that is the new combined splinter thread, but in the beginning it links back to the original splinter thread which is much longer and has much more info... We did try to sum up important things into the new thread though!

 

[bossman]

Thanks anyways!
Does there come a manual with the splinter? Or is one to find online? Maybe I shoud read through the Splinter Thread first as it's only 25 pages. Have no idea about tcr values, resistance whatsoever yet.

Get this twenty dollar Ravage and install Red Panda (requires a pc) just so you're guaranteed the best performance from your V2.

My settings are minimal: TCR 125, 36W max, and just accept the unlocked cold resistance of your V2 and never think about it.

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[Shit Snacks]

Get this twenty dollar Ravage and install Red Panda (requires a pc) just so you're guaranteed the best performance from your V2.

My settings are minimal: TCR 125, 36W max, and just accept the unlocked cold resistance of your V2 and never think about it.

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haha they said their new P80 just arrived and Splinter arrives tomorrow, they're not going to buy a ravage now at this point!

Also for all you know Arctic Fox on P80 is just as good as Red Panda on Ravage, right? You don't have a P80 and haven't used Arctic Fox? I of course don't have my ravage yet, and have not used red panda but it should be the same thing just with color?

 

[Likun]

Get this twenty dollar Ravage and install Red Panda (requires a pc) just so you're guaranteed the best performance from your V2.

My settings are minimal: TCR 125, 36W max, and just accept the unlocked cold resistance of your V2 and never think about it.

Wismec Sinuous Ravage230 200W Kit $31.99

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Can I do the same with the P80 as I've already purchased that one?
Can't find the Ravage under 45 € (~50 $) where I live. Mods seem to be kinda expensive here.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Can I do the same with the P80 as I've already purchased that one?
Can't find the Ravage under 45 € (~50 $) where I live. Mods seem to be kinda expensive here.

Yeah Arctic Fox firmware is the same as Red Panda firmware, but for non color screen mods is all. I think 125 is where my own Splinter V2 ended up for TCR, cold resistance should be ~.25 too

 

[bossman]

Can I do the same with the P80 as I've already purchased that one?
Can't find the Ravage under 45 € (~50 $) where I live. Mods seem to be kinda expensive here.

I've never owned a P80 but yeah.

In other news, those custom stems from @Vlad the Inhaler arrived and they're both great. A bit longer than the long XL8R and pleasantly larger interior diameter for a nice open draw, not to mention the chef's kiss cooling from the vigreux dimple pattern.

 

[Likun]

Alright I guess I'll try Arctic Fox then. Is it worth giving it a try "vanilla" out of the box? I mean just with the original FW in wattage mod I guess?

@bossman Those stems look gorgeous. How much are they?

 

[bossman]

Alright I guess I'll try Arctic Fox then. Is it worth giving it a try "vanilla" out of the box? I mean just with the original FW in wattage mod I guess?

@bossman Those stems look gorgeous. How much are they?

You can use the P80 out of the box in wattage but installing Arctic Fox using a pc is very straightforward and inputting the limited number of settings is as simple as filling in some form fields. It's nothing to worry about.

The stems were $32 and $35 plus shipping so $79 for both combined.

 

[Likun]

Thanks, so I'll install the cfw.
My Splinter just arrived. I'M a bit confused as it arrived in a V1 box (written on the bottom of the box) but I bought it as a V2. It is a black unit. If I'm not mistaken the v1 ones are all in brown wood and the v2 in black wood? Is this right? Did I get the V2?

I basically have no idea what to do.
I want to try it in wattage mode first. I set my P80 to VW (I guess that means wattage mode) and set it to 25 W. Is this correct? Do I have to set up any other options? I have Volt and Ohm on the Display. 2.5 V and 0.25 Ohm.

 

[arb]

You need to screw it on the mod load the stem press button and suck I think.
Adjust wattage accordingly be patient and have fun.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Thanks, so I'll install the cfw.
My Splinter just arrived. I'M a bit confused as it arrived in a V1 box (written on the bottom of the box) but I bought it as a V2. It is a black unit. If I'm not mistaken the v1 ones are all in brown wood and the v2 in black wood? Is this right? Did I get the V2?

I basically have no idea what to do.
I want to try it in wattage mode first. I set my P80 to VW (I guess that means wattage mode) and set it to 25 W. Is this correct? Do I have to set up any other options? I have Volt and Ohm on the Display. 2.5 V and 0.25 Ohm.

Yes blackwood is a V2, remember if you get aftermarket stems that your splinter uses 19/19 glass. (508phineas has those in clear)

And yes there is nothing to adjust to use in wattage with stock firmware, but it's going to have an auto shut off of 10 seconds, so you will want to have to press the button twice during a hit so it doesn't shut off on you..

 

[Likun]

You need to screw it on the mod load the stem press button and suck I think.
Adjust wattage accordingly be patient and have fun.

Yes that's what I tried but I didn't get any results. Figured it out kind of...

Yes blackwood is a V2, remember if you get aftermarket stems that your splinter uses 19/19 glass. (508phineas has those in clear)

And yes there is nothing to adjust to use in wattage with stock firmware, but it's going to have an auto shut off of 10 seconds, so you will want to have to press the button twice during a hit so it doesn't shut off on you..

The 10s protection confused me the most! That sucks. Is this fixed with artic fox?
I'll have to wait with flashing because I have a complaint running with the retailer I bought it from, worst case is that I'll have to return the P80. Don't wanna flash until I'm sure I'm keeping it.

 

[arb]

Yes that's what I tried but I didn't get any results. Figured it out kind of...

The 10s protection confused me the most! That sucks. Is this fixed with artic fox?
I'll have to wait with flashing because I have a complaint running with the retailer I bought it from, worst case is that I'll have to return the P80. Don't wanna flash until I'm sure I'm keeping it.

Turn it up?

 

[Shit Snacks]

Yes that's what I tried but I didn't get any results. Figured it out kind of...

The 10s protection confused me the most! That sucks. Is this fixed with artic fox?
I'll have to wait with flashing because I have a complaint running with the retailer I bought it from, worst case is that I'll have to return the P80. Don't wanna flash until I'm sure I'm keeping it.

Yeah that's actually the biggest benefit of the custom firmware, regardless of temp control, being able to control the auto shut off... Arctic Fox let's you set it up to 60 seconds, mine is at 45... There is a secret menu you can access on the P80 to up it from 10 to 15 in stock at least... But you can just hold it down for 5 seconds as a preheat, or a little longer and start to draw, but you have to let go and press it again to restart the 10 seconds and take a full hit...

 

[arb]

Not sure why pressing the button is so difficult?

 

[Likun]

Not sure why pressing the button is so difficult?

Imo that's just stupid. It's a matter of convenience, never had a vape where I actually have to pay attention whether it's being heated or not and usually my draws are longer than 10s. I have no idea about e-cigarettes what those mods are made for I guess but with dry herb vaping this limitation just sucks. That alone would be reason enough to change the firmware, for me at least.

 

[arb]

The cut off is a safety feature....... lolz.
I reckon I just like pressing the round,red candy like button.

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[Likun]

The cut off is a safety feature....... lolz.
I reckon I just like pressing the round,red candy like button.

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Yes I get that.
But is it really going to harm the Splinter if I heat it for more than 10s? Where's the big difference in heating it 2x10s or even 3x10s with the one second pause in betweeen hits? Does that cool the coil so much? Not all features companies implement in their products make that much sense for the enduser, therefor clever heads go and customize things like firmware in this case.
I really don't know much about 510 Vapes yet but if that was the case I'd just have figured out that they aren't my kind of vape.
Can anyone confirm that? 10s is nothing, theres barely vapor coming.
And I guess CFW remove that "feature" with a purpose.

 

[arb]

Yes I get that.
But is it really going to harm the Splinter if I heat it for more than 10s? Where's the big difference in heating it 2x10s or even 3x10s with the one second pause in betweeen hits? Does that cool the coil so much? Not all features companies implement in their products make that much sense for the enduser, therefor clever heads go and customize things like firmware in this case.
I really don't know much about 510 Vapes yet but if that was the case I'd just have figured out that they aren't my kind of vape.
Can anyone confirm that? 10s is nothing, theres barely vapor coming.
And I guess CFW remove that "feature" with a purpose.

The cut off is to prevent the unit a d batteries from over heating and exploding in your face.
Has absolutely nothing to do with what ever atomizer \deck you are using.

 

[bossman]

haha they said their new P80 just arrived and Splinter arrives tomorrow, they're not going to buy a ravage now at this point!

Also for all you know Arctic Fox on P80 is just as good as Red Panda on Ravage, right? You don't have a P80 and haven't used Arctic Fox? I of course don't have my ravage yet, and have not used red panda but it should be the same thing just with color?

The same thing just with color?? I've been recommending the Ravage because it works better with my eight Splinters than any of the dozen mods I've owned, including one two and three cell color DNA mods as well as several cheaper TC mods from Wismec, Eleaf, and Joyetech running myevic, tubomyevic, and yes Arctic Fox.

I haven't tried a P80 and I'm not looking for a single cell TC mod that only runs the older firmware. Wait until your Ravage arrives and let us know how your P80 compares. Small sample size but I've never rated any single cell mod that highly for Splinter or especially Z use.

Yes I get that.
But is it really going to harm the Splinter if I heat it for more than 10s? Where's the big difference in heating it 2x10s or even 3x10s with the one second pause in betweeen hits? Does that cool the coil so much? Not all features companies implement in their products make that much sense for the enduser, therefor clever heads go and customize things like firmware in this case.
I really don't know much about 510 Vapes yet but if that was the case I'd just have figured out that they aren't my kind of vape.
Can anyone confirm that? 10s is nothing, theres barely vapor coming.
And I guess CFW remove that "feature" with a purpose.

Try to reserve judgment while you're still learning the ropes. The initial config is the main hurdle to enjoying great Splinter performance. There's no sense in complaining about the default settings or firmware quirks on a thirty dollar mod you haven't configured or learned to use yet. The P80 is designed for ecig use like all box mods.

 

[Likun]

The cut off is to prevent the unit a d batteries from over heating and exploding in your face.
Has absolutely nothing to do with what ever atomizer \deck you are using.

Oh I see, was thinking in the wrong direction. My bad, excuse me. Still as I don't know anything about box mods or the like besides my tubo evic which I can run in a 10 minute cruise session which should give me a warning when the device (or the battery) gets too hot - which I can't remember to ever get.
So yeah, as @bossman is saying I shouldn't discuss too much about topics I don't know much about. It's just an initial disapointment. Let's say there wasn't this great community with all the great manuals, answers, mods etc. and I'd have to keep using this thing with the 10s auto shutdown - that alone would be a reason for me to sell it in an instant. Luckily there are other options .

Try to reserve judgment while you're still learning the ropes. The initial config is the main hurdle to enjoying great Splinter performance. There's no sense in complaining about the default settings or firmware quirks on a thirty dollar mod you haven't configured or learned to use yet. The P80 is designed for ecig use like all box mods.

As I mentioned above, you're right, gotta get the hang of those things first.
So I'll flash the arctic fox firmware these days. Gotta find some kind of manual or walkthrough how to set this up. Unfortunately as I said in an earlier post, the mod you're recommending is kinda expensive over here in Germany. Maybe in the future I'll look into other mods if I get to like the splinter.