VaporGenie

[El Rawn Hubbard]

That logic would suggest all vapes using 18650 batteries are the same though which obviously isn't true.

Whatever your criteria might be, it's definitely a proven performer.

Have you watched videos of the VG in use?

 

[maremaresing]

Whatever your criteria might be, it's definitely a proven performer.

Truer words have never been spoken about the VG. I still get regularly dropped by it. Anyone remember the VG "3 bowl challenge" they used to have? In the days before vapes were a known thing, when people were misusing or questioning if the VG/Vapes could properly medicate vs smoke, they often touted this.

It was pretty smart, too, though overdosing doesn't fall into their current business image. If you have a massive tolerance, one bowl might not match what you normally intake. If you aren't using the lighter correctly and not getting good vapor, this forces you to keep trying until you get it browned right. At the time, the VG was grassroots revered for hitting so hard. Until recently you simply were not going to find an electric portable that works as well.

I never tried the "3 vg challenge", and with my tolerance it would merc me. I've heard a lot of funny stories about those who tried and failed, though.

 

[simba]

That logic would suggest all vapes using 18650 batteries are the same though which obviously isn't true.

They are in the fact they're battery powered devices that create vapor, yes it's all about how simple you want to go. Honestly I'm not sure why you don't get where I'm coming from. All those intricacies of difference still come down to a device making vapor and I'm 100% a medical user with high needs. Like I said I appreciate and get all those differences of varied vape tech and I find all the posts about it great. Most of the time though I don't care or think about it. Most of the time all I need to do is get that vapor into me in the best way possible for the scenario I'm in.

I've watched a couple of usage videos, I get the concept and sure it won't be too hard to get the hang of. Just waiting for that order now!

 

[Ramahs]

The differences you state are all valid and whilst I appreciate all of that, I also don't care 99% of the time. All I need is the most efficient and convenient way to vape my herb given the situation I'm in.

I would definitely disagree with this sentiment. I say that because different vapes have different vapor signatures which give different experiences and different highs. I would consider the two experiences to be very different between the two vapes.

 

[pxl_jockey]

OF the OG dropping Science Bombs! Seeing this post made me so happy & sent me back in time.

I disagree with this idea, there is a substantial difference between the two. VG has a heat exchanger where the DV depends on stored heat for the hit. This means, for instance, you can replace the heat during the hit. This keeps the delivered heated air at at even level rather than the ever declining DV. DV forces us to start the hit hotter to ensure it doesn't poop out too fast, VG you approach from below and therefore don't need this over shooting?

The idea with candle flames being lower temperature is also a bit off. The total energy available from a given amount of gas remains the same in normal conditions. This is the reason your home heater is basically a candle flame, if you got more heat from 'torch flame' the cost of fuel would make that the system we'd demand. The rub is of the two reactions involved (burning the hydrogen giving water vapor and the carbon one producing CO2) the water one happens first meaning if you cool the process, the carbon doesn't convert not the hydrogen. This can cause solid carbon to deposit as 'lamp black' same as collects on the glass in kerosene lamps. No strange/toxic compounds are possible. Gas, containing carbon and hydrogen only, is the only source of chemicals. Remember we vent gas stoves and wall heaters into the room we live in, and have for a very long time.

Nothing to fear, IMO, but if you let candle or other 'yellow flame' sources like hemp wick get too close to the heat exchanger it will 'soot up', eventually blocking flow. There's a procedure for cleaning the exvchanger with a touch and vacuum cleaner.

Of the two, I think VG gets the nod on many fronts. DV is, OTOH, easier to use even if only the single way it's designed to.

Regards to all.

OF

Back in 2016, in my lurking days before I joined FC and we’ll after, this gentleman taught me so much about the science and technology of vaporization. Always there to answer questions fully & factually and kindly even for the umpteenth time and even when it was glaringly obvious the person asking hadn’t bothered reading in the thread at all.

I think it’s freakin amazing there are a handful of long-time members (I won’t call them old-timers!) that don’t showboat or gatekeep their knowledge, they just patiently and cheerfully share it whenever they can.

 

[OF]

I would definitely disagree with this sentiment. I say that because different vapes have different vapor signatures which give different experiences and different highs. I would consider the two experiences to be very different between the two vapes.

While I get the idea of 'a vape is a vape, how it works isn't really important', this is clearly (to me) not the case here. One is a conduction vape with a temperature sensor that gives an indication of the heat. The other is a convection vape which allows for different size loads (more than one hit) and allows for a lot of different delivery techniques as opposed to the single one the DV offers.

Right now, I honestly can't think of two vapes more different from a technical POV. For sure if we consider flame powered units? Each has it's strong points, but for sure they are very different animals 'under the hood'.

Regards and best wishes to all.

OF

 

[simba]

While I get the idea of 'a vape is a vape, how it works isn't really important', this is clearly (to me) not the case here. One is a conduction vape with a temperature sensor that gives an indication of the heat. The other is a convection vape which allows for different size loads (more than one hit) and allows for a lot of different delivery techniques as opposed to the single one the DV offers.

Right now, I honestly can't think of two vapes more different from a technical POV. For sure if we consider flame powered units? Each has it's strong points, but for sure they are very different animals 'under the hood'.

Regards and best wishes to all.

OF

Again you keep going on about the technical differences which don't really matter to me. Yes one is conduction and one is convection, but so what? They're both creating vaporised cannabinoids. We don't necessarily need to care what's going on under the hood even if we acknowledge and understand the differences.

I understand that idea is anathema to many vape enthusiasts here and I'm certainly not demeaning any of the knowledge. I'm simply saying that in my general usage I don't need to care, and we should understand that for most people they don't care either. It's the subset of vape users that are enthusiasts, and that's all totally cool for people who want to be.

I would definitely disagree with this sentiment. I say that because different vapes have different vapor signatures which give different experiences and different highs. I would consider the two experiences to be very different between the two vapes.

People keep going on about the experience, but that's not what I'm talking about. Also the different "high" you experience is completely subjective. I would like to see some evidence that vaporised cannabinoids from different devices are distinct enough for it to matter