nicknobody
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Whatās so funny?Indeed, this does sound like a you problem
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Cheebsy
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I've actually been amazed at how easy it is to keep on top of the cleaning of the click! The flat bottomed pan makes running a q tip around the bowl after a load an absolute breeze. I always used to lose fibres with the OG pan where it gets tight at the bottom. My pan looks like new, which can't be said for the kotibe classic!
I'm very much enjoying the high, it's the same as the original, but much more pronounced since I can feel it from just one bowl. I haven't seen this mentioned before, so, an I alone feeling like the high creeps up on you after a short while? It usually takes me a few mins to feel the effects which is very different to all my faster vapes. It was true for the OG also but I struggled to get a decent high needing more bowls than I had patience for.
I'm very much enjoying the high, it's the same as the original, but much more pronounced since I can feel it from just one bowl. I haven't seen this mentioned before, so, an I alone feeling like the high creeps up on you after a short while? It usually takes me a few mins to feel the effects which is very different to all my faster vapes. It was true for the OG also but I struggled to get a decent high needing more bowls than I had patience for.
farf
Smells like popcorn
While I can see the shakiness of the screen on posts as opposed to being screwed down tight being a bit annoying for people who are more obsessive over aesthetics like myself; I'm going to have to disagree and say the posts are an objective upgrade for the longevity of the device (especially if you're planning on cleaning it frequently).
Constant removal and replacement of the screws into the wooden body will cause the wood to wear down over time. While it may not be an issue for a lot of people those with dexterity issues can find themselves damaging their unit by stripping screw heads or even worse damaging the screw holes in the wood. The posts make it so the cleaning process wears down the unit less over time.
When it comes to the shakiness as long as your screen is not loose when the midsection is connected to the body I don't see an issue. The tension of the midsection against the bowl should snap everything together nice and airtight.
Bending the tabs on the screen is also something I wouldn't be too worried about. The screen material seems to be tempered in a way that makes it very springy and not prone to bending. I'm saying this from experience since I tried to bend an OG Vapman's screen tabs inwards towards the body to have them be more flush when screwed down. They do not want to move and I didn't want to risk snapping them since the metal doesn't seem at all pliable.
Sorry for the rant but your concerns were my own for a while when I was playing around with the new 2.0 improvements but after some back and forth in my opinion the new post design is a much better alternative than the original screw down screen.
nicknobody
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I donāt see this as a rant. You prefer one over the other. Simple. Same with me. I was just explaining why after being asked.
I canāt be more firm on my opinion. Thereās no argument for me but I wonāt tell you your wrong either
Properly fixed over loose and sloppy for the win. I never have to align my v1 mid section screen when attaching it to the oven.
farf
Smells like popcorn
Totally understandable.I donāt see this as a rant. You prefer one over the other. Simple. Same with me. I was just explaining why after being asked.
I canāt be more firm on my opinion. Thereās no argument for me but I wonāt tell you your wrong either
Properly fixed over loose and sloppy for the win. I never have to align my v1 mid section screen when attaching it to the oven.
I don't like the rattling either; it's one thing I'll concede that the screw down screen has a leg up on. I've personally never had an alignment issue with either the Zebrano 2.0 or the new click. Maybe yours is a little outside of the tolerances?
Either way I hope you can find a solution that will make the experience with the new devices more enjoyable!
I didn't know OG had a different system. That does sound superior to me. Secure and solid over quick and easy for me.
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
Yeah, solid probably isn't the best option but the shape could easily be hollow and still be strong enough and have enough mass. The bangers with metal encased in glass that came with the Wand were meant to be heated up to 800F so I think the Wand has the juice with 2x18650s and at the end of the day, we're trying to heat up a copper bowl that loves heat.
I don't have a Click to test with but I'd try a small hollow metal cylinder with metal coin or disc on top to balance the Click? Just thinking out loud here but I love to tinker with stuff.
Definitely a PID powered chunk of metal would work but it'd be like the Station. Not really portable but nice to make for free if you have the materials.
nicknobody
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You really have my wheels turning rn
Simple 25mm rod and a variety of grinding and cutting toolsā¦
I donāt know what material would be best to use. Does anyone think this approach would work?
Electrofever
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Wouldnāt this be too much heat, or overpowered ? I would say, testing would be the best way to find out
The major difference is the copper brown has a mica inlay, which insulates the wood, whereas the inside of the cherry VM is pre charred, but has no mica layer.
And probably the wood has an incidence aswell, different wood keeps the heat differently.
coolbreeze
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I grabbed one and I think the wood has a little more character than the pure purple, and it's really cool how it changes in different light: sometimes it looks more amber-goldish and sometimes more purple. It will even change as you turn it, and it's glassier.
jbm
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That being said, as far as I know, thereās really no functional difference between the two.
borbjorbis
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There is no functional difference, but it feels much more refined in the hand. Given your remark on how the Click has changed your whole perception of vaping and given you a new appreciation for the aesthetics of using different devices, it sounds like you might really enjoy this additional refinement. For me it definitely enhances the overall experience.
The Purpleheart is heavier than the Cherry and is polished / conditioned nice and smooth. It feels much more solid in the hand and honestly makes the Cherry feel like a prototype device (which is comparatively pretty cool in its own right, it's like a children's toy block that gets you ripped, but personally I prefer the extra sophistication of the Walnut / PH models).
One thing that's awesome with the Vapman is that truly each device and each wood gives off its own feeling that's integrated into the ritual. Even switching out the mouthpiece changes the atmosphere the device gives off. Recently I like using the stainless steel mp with the PH body ā it feels like a fountain pen, whereas the Cherry with POM mp feels like a Bic pen.
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Electrofever
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This is the way
Gourmet
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You've hit the nail on the head!
This is exactly what RenƩ had in mind. The idea was never to screw the filter on as tightly as possible, but to always leave it a little loose. The holes in the filter are deliberately slightly larger than the screw.
Why is that? In the past with the OG, before the insert ring that protects the middle section from the heat, there was some charring over time, i.e. the middle section became very slightly shorter.
(Example image without charring...but lots of residue
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However, in order for it to fit tightly again due to the springs, the screws must allow some play so that the filter can press on. Otherwise the spring energy is transferred to the screws and that's not the point.
So it's not a bug, it's a feature!
So now we have found out that the Vapman is not a car!
I don't care, I'm still going full power into the new year!
I wish good luck, good health and lots of love to everyone in 2025!
TheScamericann
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I went 2 days without cleaning it before and had resin bubbling out around the mouthpiece and was getting peices of resin in my mouth.You donāt have to clean it, youāre just choosing to clean it (which is fine lol). You can literally never clean these things. I ligit havenāt cleaned my boxtree in like a year and a half and that thing has been through 100ās of bowls. Iām kinda tempted to take it apart and show you guys haha
Radwin Bodnic
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Dry flower will keep the vapman cleaner for longer I think.
Mine is at 62% humidity and I don't need to clean the midsection every 5 bowls.
Mine is at 62% humidity and I don't need to clean the midsection every 5 bowls.
Squidge
Butane powered
Looking at the v2 middle piece you'd think the airflow would be one sided, but isn't the twisted insert designed to even it out as well as adding (unnecessary ime) cooling?
I'm not a fan of the click, the larger bowl, or the new post system, but I understand why they were developed to increase the appeal of the Vapman to a wider audience.
peeeaace
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the twisted insert has no effect. Illusion.
but yes this unilateral side is good for adjustment. but the air flow... is then not well distributed. and if it is too open... we no longer suck in anything... air passing through the 3 copper tubes. Besides we play the flute.
the Swiss vapman, is for me better balanced.
but yes this unilateral side is good for adjustment. but the air flow... is then not well distributed. and if it is too open... we no longer suck in anything... air passing through the 3 copper tubes. Besides we play the flute.
the Swiss vapman, is for me better balanced.
T9R
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I think it's quite marginal, but yes, I feel like the airflow is slightly better distributed in the OGs. But the air intake is obviously less adjustable, which probably is a bigger factor for many. I'm on your side though, I wouldn't mind going back to the flute.
The spiral does probably work like @Squidge explained, but I've personally never felt the need to use it as anything other than reclaim filtration. Vapmen have always been very smooth vapes for me, I don't think they really need any extra cooling.
peeeaace
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With the click or the v2 if you open the air flow too much, without playing the flute. We then waste the product.
With the Swiss vapman, efficiency is better.
It would be interesting to increase the diameter of the copper tubes a little, I think. Related to the larger bowl.
With the Swiss vapman, efficiency is better.
It would be interesting to increase the diameter of the copper tubes a little, I think. Related to the larger bowl.
DonDormilĆ³n
New Member
Hello to all you and a happy 2025!
Iām new to Fc and in my transition from combusting to vaporizing. Because of that, i stumbled across Fc forum and Love it!
I started out with my first vape Arizer Solo 3.
For dry herbs, i like it pretty much!!!
Despite i knew that it isnāt a good device for hash, i wanted to proof that.
I tried traditional dry sift and bubble with it, but it didnāt give me a solid buzz.
After a couple of weeks, learning about vapes for hash, i found that a lot folks recommend the Vapman.
I like the idea of the flame powered device and ritual of it.
Long story short, i ended up here.
But to me, as a newby, the different Vapmans are confusing.
I learned that the Vapman Click has got a 0,2g heating champer versus the Vapman 2.0 has only a 0,1g chamber.
On the Inhale website, they recommend the Vapman 2.0 for herbs and solid hash, but the Vapman Classic Click only for dry herbs.
Iām in the market for a Vapman, especially as a hash device. But iām pretty confused what Model gives me the best buzz for hash.
Can anyone tell me if there is a difference in performance between the 0,1g and the new 0,2g chamber, when it comes to hash?
Cheers, Don
Iām new to Fc and in my transition from combusting to vaporizing. Because of that, i stumbled across Fc forum and Love it!
I started out with my first vape Arizer Solo 3.
For dry herbs, i like it pretty much!!!
Despite i knew that it isnāt a good device for hash, i wanted to proof that.
I tried traditional dry sift and bubble with it, but it didnāt give me a solid buzz.
After a couple of weeks, learning about vapes for hash, i found that a lot folks recommend the Vapman.
I like the idea of the flame powered device and ritual of it.
Long story short, i ended up here.
But to me, as a newby, the different Vapmans are confusing.
I learned that the Vapman Click has got a 0,2g heating champer versus the Vapman 2.0 has only a 0,1g chamber.
On the Inhale website, they recommend the Vapman 2.0 for herbs and solid hash, but the Vapman Classic Click only for dry herbs.
Iām in the market for a Vapman, especially as a hash device. But iām pretty confused what Model gives me the best buzz for hash.
Can anyone tell me if there is a difference in performance between the 0,1g and the new 0,2g chamber, when it comes to hash?
Cheers, Don
Gourmet
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It's exciting how different the experiences are!
For example, I clearly prefer the gentlest possible vapor with approx. 30% fresh air, because I don't like coughing and my airways have always been very sensitive.
According to my technical understanding (from a professional point of view) as well as my experience of using it, the spiral is ideally able to both cool and swirl the vapor air flow, so I see it as a clear improvement. The Click makes overheating much less likely, which again has a positive effect on the vapor quality in my opinion.
It may be, however, that the aroma is a little less, as it is known that more condensate than usual is produced during cooling, which binds the terpenes.
Nevertheless, I have been using the Vapman OG for over 10 years now, and I have never had a better middle piece in terms of the smoothness of the vapor than with the new middle piece as installed with the Click.
On the other hand, if you like a little more "direct" vapor (relatively speaking), you might be a little happier with the OG or 2.0.
In terms of efficiency, I'm still a bit torn. On the one hand, the larger amount in the click causes a stronger kick, I only load the Vapman once an evening to get a full buzz. With the Swiss OG it is often 3 pans per evening.
On the other hand, it tempts me to increase my tolerance in order to vape even more. It needs
more awareness in consumption so as not to fall for the misconception that more is always better.
For example, I clearly prefer the gentlest possible vapor with approx. 30% fresh air, because I don't like coughing and my airways have always been very sensitive.
According to my technical understanding (from a professional point of view) as well as my experience of using it, the spiral is ideally able to both cool and swirl the vapor air flow, so I see it as a clear improvement. The Click makes overheating much less likely, which again has a positive effect on the vapor quality in my opinion.
It may be, however, that the aroma is a little less, as it is known that more condensate than usual is produced during cooling, which binds the terpenes.
Nevertheless, I have been using the Vapman OG for over 10 years now, and I have never had a better middle piece in terms of the smoothness of the vapor than with the new middle piece as installed with the Click.
On the other hand, if you like a little more "direct" vapor (relatively speaking), you might be a little happier with the OG or 2.0.
In terms of efficiency, I'm still a bit torn. On the one hand, the larger amount in the click causes a stronger kick, I only load the Vapman once an evening to get a full buzz. With the Swiss OG it is often 3 pans per evening.
On the other hand, it tempts me to increase my tolerance in order to vape even more. It needs
more awareness in consumption so as not to fall for the misconception that more is always better.