Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO
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aj0125
Well-Known Member
Why are we trying to put herb into the VXN? Is this just out of curiosity?
I think some of the more adventurous folks around here are pursuing an all glass airpath. I applaud the pursuit, not sure this is the right tool for the job, I would love to hear the findings of said adventurous folks though...
Deadshort480
We're here to fuck shit up.
I begrudge nobody experimenting, I was simply asking. Personally, I leave that experimentation to Vapexhale in order not to ruin expensive things. The ELB is made for dry herb and works fantastically while working with kief and hash as well. The VXN is made for full melt concentrates and has proven itself to work very well. I, like M00NEY, am a firm believer of the right tool for the right job, but if experimentation is what one chooses then more power to them.
11eleven11
Well-Known Member
I brought it up mostly out of curiosity and the fact that I am a big fan of a 100% all glass airpath. Of course the ELBs are probably going to work better because that's how the VXL was designed. Really though... what if you could put a tiny bit of flower in there with your well tested low-temp setting and milk it all in one quick rip? All for a perfect 1 hitter of pure flower flavor.
Maybe this experimentation could give way to the design of a glass insert for flowers. Maybe not. But hell I'll try it once I get my VXN pack if no one else does by then.
It may not even work at all, as newVaper420 mentioned it might fly up into the hydratube.
Maybe this experimentation could give way to the design of a glass insert for flowers. Maybe not. But hell I'll try it once I get my VXN pack if no one else does by then.
It may not even work at all, as newVaper420 mentioned it might fly up into the hydratube.
Deadshort480
We're here to fuck shit up.
Throw enough glass screens in there and you should be good to go.
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
Re flowers in the nail . . . as mentioned, the ELB is specifically designed for flowers. There are two factors at work, pressurization and turbulence. This is what enables the superior extraction. With bud in the nail these characteristics would not apply and with that the superlative extraction lost, too. It would just be applying heat from the outside in, like other very simplistic devices. And then there is the matter of stirring, which would likely be required: A PITA, and an invite to break the nail. That said, other than risk to the nail, probably would do no harm. Just really not worth it, IMO.
On a diff note, I pulled the trigger on a HF 2.0. I need something more sturdy to use with my Fanatic double Swagger turbine HT; setting it directly on the EVO joint makes me nervous. I don't use that piece regularly, but I do like to bring it out for show-and-tell and occasionally just for the hell of it. It will be fun to see how it works with regular HT's.
On a diff note, I pulled the trigger on a HF 2.0. I need something more sturdy to use with my Fanatic double Swagger turbine HT; setting it directly on the EVO joint makes me nervous. I don't use that piece regularly, but I do like to bring it out for show-and-tell and occasionally just for the hell of it. It will be fun to see how it works with regular HT's.
11eleven11
Well-Known Member
@oldiebutgoodie
Good buy! I bet you'll enjoy it. I always thought that's a really awesome looking functional hydrafoot. Turn any HT into a new setup with added percolation and upside-down EVO use. Let us know how that fanatic combo works out for you and share some pics.
Good buy! I bet you'll enjoy it. I always thought that's a really awesome looking functional hydrafoot. Turn any HT into a new setup with added percolation and upside-down EVO use. Let us know how that fanatic combo works out for you and share some pics.
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Schmobs
Recycled Hippy
OK
Try this:
-Temp 9:00 (or lower)
-Wait until you see vapor coming from the top of the nail. (it has to be quite thick actually so it can take a little bit of times)
-Then insert the HT (before inserting the HT, I take a sniff over the nail... mmmmmm that does smell divine! but that optional, it's just me
-So take a very slooooooow draw
-Then clear
NOTE:
If the load is bigger than anticipated you may have another good hit.
With experience you'll know how much you need for your lung capacity and when to stop before the nasty taste. But I think the low temp is the key for your application.
I used to vap my H & Kief double capped or sandwiched which worked quite well but with the nail, I found I have more control over flavor/vapor kind of "1 hit and I'm done."
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timmahsan
treEnt
Just chiming in randomly while finishing a session with some Jack the Ripper. I started out low on the dial and rotated it through the different temps ending all the way at max. Every different position gave a different quality around the taste. I could definitely see this as being the standard for judging strains at future cups. Thoroughly enjoy this vape daily. I'm looking forward to trying out the nails down the road. I've talked with a local dispensary tender and he is very interested in it after having a brief, convincing argument on vaporizing versus combustion when you use the EVO.
Schmobs
Recycled Hippy
Give me a VXN about 1/2 or 3/4 shorter or both, it might do good for flowers...
Sinclue
OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
As you are already using the best vape available for flowers I'm not sure why you'd want the nail to be able to do flowers.
Wouldn't a shorter VXN be the fabled glass ELB? Now that would be major improvement to the EVO. Not unlike the VXN has turned out to be.
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11eleven11
Well-Known Member
A reason would be those who are glass purists would want a step in that direction. It'd take the asterisk off 100% glass airpath.
Could be. I think the instances of people burning their herb on accident may sharply rise, but I still would totally buy a glass insert for flowers like that if it was shown to work good.
Imagine a swirly tube that swirls the air up into the bowl.
VapeNStone
Mark
Idk why you guys are still two capping with the EVO?
SD_haze
Well-Known Member
I've always had best results not two capping just loading kief directly in the ELB and then using the hydratube.I don't have access to concentrates here but I have a lot of really nice kief. So just to be sure, the experience with kief + vxn is better than the usual double cap? If so I'm going to order a couple of vxn as soon as they send me my international Evo
Ill try kief at 9 o'clock in the VXN later, we will see if it works better!
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
it's condensed vapor.Here's my Hydrafoot 2.0 with the mini side cerc: that phlegmy looking residue is from concentrates. What is it? That can't be all that good to breathe in. I'm glad it condensed out.
Deadshort480
We're here to fuck shit up.
Condensed vapor, resin, reclaim, whatever you'd like to call it. This happens whenever you vape or smoke just about anything.Here's my Hydrafoot 2.0 with the mini side cerc: that phlegmy looking residue is from concentrates. What is it? That can't be all that good to breathe in. I'm glad it condensed out.
Deadshort480
We're here to fuck shit up.
Well, we all have to be honest and admit that breathing in any type of gases that contain any type of foreign residue is not entirely healthy for our lungs. While vaporization may not be as bad for you as combustion there certainly is no evidence that it is good for you. Yes, the plant that most of us choose to vaporize has medical benefits, but the style in which we absorb this medicine may not be entirely medically beneficial.
I do believe that this condesing of vapor does happen within our lungs. I can feel a sticky residue on my lips sometimes and when large dabs are taken I can feel it coat the inside of my mouth and on my teeth, especially with very small rigs that use minimal water.
So, while I do believe this happens inside our lungs, I also believe that our bodies are self cleansing and that even on heavy dabbing or vaping days any damage that may be done is minimal. I believe Cilia and phlegm help take care in getting rid of a good deal of what remains in our lungs afterwards. After switching to strictly vaping after smoking herb and cigarettes for 13 years I can tell you that my lungs feel less heavy and bogged down now then they ever did in my twenties.
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
plant waxes and even THC itself will also cause you to cough. THC is an expectorant after all...
Deadshort480
We're here to fuck shit up.
Absolutely! It's relative. The more expectorant you bring into your body, the more it will make you cough. Now concentrate that expectorant.