Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO

[CANtalk]

Thx for the feedback @PureVapr. Sweet hydratube collection . Loving the EVO here too . I missed that EVO fire story last year, yikes !. Thx for the feedback on the boro/quartz nails, here's my research, experience and feedback on that subject. FWIW, boro and quartz glass have pretty much the same thermal conductivity so heat travels the same through both types of glass, https://www.makeitfrom.com/compare/Borosilicate-Glass/Fused-Silica-Fused-Quartz. The main difference between the two are that the thermal expansion of borosilicate is higher than quartz so boro nails tend to sit a little looser in the EVO when first inserted and thus they can take a little longer to heat up. The time to vapor may be ~2-4 seconds slower than with quartz but not much else will be different. Additionally, because of that slightly slower time to (and through) vaporization with concentrates, if anything boro glass helps users from ramping up temps too fast in the nail which can result in the loss of natural flavors and introduce toasty flavors.

No matter which type of VapeXnail is used (boro or quartz), people should be able to dial in the same overall concentrate experience by experimenting with and refining their method/technique. Most people are doing that subconsciously with whichever glass VapeXnail they have, and some people will be more detail-oriented than others . However, the method/technique should be slightly different between using boro and quartz nails. Most people won't realize these differences unless they are using both boro and quartz nails. So it's not surprising or unexpected to have different experiences using boro and quartz nails identically in the EVO. Trying to optimize the experience with both boro and quartz nails should result in slightly different times, temps or techniques between them, especially for those who are detail-oriented .

I've found that boro nails definitely don't do well with "sipping" in the EVO . Concentrates are by far best enjoyed by inhaling them in the first two draws (especially the first draw); and these draws should be ripped with minimal pause as after that it gets toasty. Additionally, no matter which type of nail is used in the EVO, after insertion into the unit it's best to begin to draw after observing visible wisps of vapor coming from the nail . I've been enjoying the flavors and experience from these techniques .

Anyone have more feedback or tips on techniques/methods? It's great to learn details and from other's experiences . Long live the EVO community.

 

[jimdee]

...Anyone have more feedback or tips on [VXNail] techniques/methods?...

My favorite is setting a cold EVO dial to 1 pm and as soon as the unit turns green, insert the nail, watch it bubble and melt and wait for a wisp of vapor to waft out. Then, place the HT on top and wait another couple of seconds and then...you know what to do...slow and steady draw leads to flavor city! The key here is the cold start. YMMV.

Best,
jd

 

[ataxian]

My favorite is setting a cold EVO dial to 1 pm and as soon as the unit turns green, insert the nail, watch it bubble and melt and wait for a wisp of vapor to waft out. Then, place the HT on top and wait another couple of seconds and then...you know what to do...slow and steady draw leads to flavor city! The key here is the cold start. YMMV.

Best,
jd

12:30 flower COLAS

11:00 ROSIN

This work’s for me?
Quarts nails for da EVO! (ROSIN so cheap?)

 

[CANtalk]

@jimdee, great feedback . Nice details. Those details matter as there are so many variables that can be changed. A cold start is important info in my experience as well . I've left the EVO on longer and it gets heat soaked for sure, even getting quite warm to the touch. And it definitely affects flower use, so I'm sure it will do the same with concentrates. And probably with more dramatic effect. Dialing in my EVO concentrate experience so far has shown me that a few variables are sensitive to even more minor changes.

Thx @ataxian for your feedback. I can't wait to try rosin and I've been very impressed with live resin at that same 11 o'clock on the temp dial (~ on the first dot left of 12 the o'clock/350F position using the temp guide sleeve cover options).




The EVO is a powerhouse! Last night I did a bit lighter load than normal and didn't even finish the bowl off... it was another big experience, lol. Man, that Acapulco gold flower was potent . It's like my tolerance is going down . And the EVO is so smooth... one can real dial in the experience . I'm still loving the Helio dry mouthpiece for the first few draws at 11 o'clock and then later using a wet hydratube to finish the flower off. It's the perfect combination of flavor, finishing with soft and smooth big-cloud vapor.

Earlier this afternoon, I finished that Acapulco Gold flower off and it was a great first sesh. Long live sativa. And recently tonight, I hit the Super Lemon Haze live resin again with the EVO and the Precision Honeycomb Hydratube... it was awesome . 11 o'clock or the first dot as mentioned earlier, a cold start and half a grain of rice in size, or so. Again, the vapor was super flavorful on the first draw with tons of strong lemon flavors (concentrated ). Flavorful like the best full-ELB fresh quality flower dry mouthpiece hits. With that first draw I'm able to hold it in for 5-10 seconds or so, then exhale. And I'm right on the edge of coughing. In fact, I tend to have a few coughs so it's definitely on the edge and potent, but not coughing-fit too overwhelming.

It seems I'm getting close to nailing my personal method and settings with EVO and live resin concentrates. I consistently get two draws (as big as one can) of awesome flavor and then good flavor; then I quit if I want zero toastiness. It's great; the EVO has been excellent for flavor with low temp dabbing of concentrates with some experimentation in my use .

I'm really enjoying the EVO experience . This vape is so customizable for experience and preferences. It's equally at home microdosing low temp flower/concentrates well as delivering big extraction big bowl hits; and with waterpiece smoothness too . I'm so impressed with the VapeXhale Cloud EVO. It's also equally at home with one to 10 or more people .

Cheers

 

[ataxian]

@jimdee, great feedback . Nice details. Details matter as there are so many variables that can be changed. A cold start is important info in my experience as well . I've left the EVO on longer and heat soaked it more and it definitely affects flower use... so it will do the same with concentrates. And probably with more dramatic effect. Dialing in my EVO concentrate experience has shown me so far that some variables are sensitive to even more minor changes.

Thx @ataxian for your feedback. I can't wait to try rosin and I've been very impressed with live resin at that same 11 o'clock on the temp dial (~ on the first dot left of 12 the o'clock/350F position with the temp guide cover).




The EVO is a powerhouse! I did a bit lighter load than normal and didn't even finish the bowl off... Last night was another big experience, lol. Man, that Acapulco gold flower was potent . It's like my tolerance is going down . And the EVO is so smooth... one can real dial in the experience .

Earlier this afternoon, I finished that Acapulco Gold flower off and it was a great start. Long live sativa. And recently tonight, I hit the Super Lemon Haze live resin again with the EVO and the Precision Honeycomb Hydratube... it was awesome . 11 o'clock or the first dot as mentioned earlier, a cold start and half a grain of rice in size, or so. Again, the vapor was super flavorful on the first draw with tons of strong lemon flavors (concentrated ). Flavorful like the best flower dry mouthpiece hits. With that first draw I hold it in for 5-10 seconds or so, then exhale. And I'm right on the edge of coughing, in fact I tend to have a few coughs so it's definitely potent, but not coughing-fit too hard-core .

It seems I'm getting close to nailing my personal method and settings with EVO and live resin concentrates. I get two draws (as big as one can) of awesome flavor and then good flavor, and then I quit if I want zero toastiness. It's great; the EVO has been excellent for flavor with low temp dabbing of concentrates in my experience .

I'm really enjoying the EVO experience. This vape is so customizable for experience and preferences. It's equally at home microdosing low temp flower/concentrates well as delivering big extraction big bowl hits; and with waterpiece smoothness too . I'm so impressed with the VapeXhale Cloud EVO. It's also equally at home with one to 10 or more people .

Cheers

I’m learning everyday?
The ROSIN I use my EVO with is 80/20 and knock’s me out!

When I was in study the Periodic Chart for CANNABIS would have been 1/2 a page?
Today the CANNABIS names are in volume form?

What it taste like & SATIVA, INDICA combination is what I look for?
Names?
I vape alone?
Maybe due to my medical needs?

 

[CANtalk]

I decided to add about a ~1/3 ELB of fresh Acapulco Gold flower tonight to the experience . Leftover bit from the bud yesterday (still have a small bit left too). Very nice so far. I wanted to mention that this lighter load in the ELB couldn't match the flavors I got from the earlier live resin concentrate. It seems I'm confirming that the flavor experience live resins are well known for is true; it can be primo .

And so far, I fall into the camp that flower is a more full-spectrum experience than concentrates. Though YMMV and it's early days for me with concentrates... Either way, I'm really enjoying doing both flower and concentrates with the EVO, variety is the spice of life .

Enjoy the weekend !

 

[Shorner]

Looking for some help...

I think my cloud evo is not putting out nearly the clouds I used to get. I have had it and used it regularly for 2 years or so. It’s been great. Nut last few months I just can’t get the hits off of it.

Last night I used my a arizer air, and man, the difference was night and day. Big clouds, ended up feeling much different than I get with cloud.

I’m putting switch at 12. Rise it to 2 at times. It’s just not getting the job done.

Any recommendations on what to check? Thanks!

(I didn’t read this whole thread, so forgive me if it’s buried in this thread)

I was never impressed with my cloud evo ending up selling it..I get bigger denser clouds with a Dynavap!

 

[ataxian]

I was never impressed with my cloud evo ending up selling it..I get bigger denser clouds with a Dynavap!

Depends?
I didn't have CANNABIS until
1970 and joints were all that was available!
2012 A different opition delevped I tried many vaporizer’s!

I have a “M” and use it sometimes?

Now the EVO is different to me?

The EVO is more of a LUXURY device.
The VAPCAP has it’s use as well.

I have both however to me their different?
I use the EVO more in my case.

ROSIN is super cheap these daze & da QUARTS nails are very decent to me?
MEDICAL for me today maybe the difference?

 

[Brewervapesalot]

Have tried the QUARTS NAILS for da EVO?

I love them!

Have you tried them?

ROSIN is pretty decent!
@lazylathe turned me into a ROSIN FAN BOY!

PINEAPPLE ESPRESS daylight GRANDDADDY PURPLE before SLEEP to be = CIVILIZED

Haven't done a lot of concentrates with the evo. Really just a grow your own flower guy.

Love the evo. Sold a couple dynavap cap, whatever they're called... not my thing. Lighters are no good, just nostalgic... and vapor is way too hot...

 

[habitat-fc]

I was never impressed with my cloud evo ending up selling it..I get bigger denser clouds with a Dynavap!

The EVO hits me way harder than both of my Vapcaps. You said the same about the Ghost MV1 and others thought that sounded off, it sounds like your EVO was never working as it should have.

Put it this way if I only used Vapcaps today I will not be able to sleep, as they can't hold enough dosage in the bowl to cut through my tolerance level. The bowl capacity on the Vapcap is so tiny you physically can't fit much THC in there.

 

[chlorophyll_man]

It might be the classic problem some people have with convection vapes, in that they lack the lung volume to really get the vapour flowing.

 

[sweetherb]

It might be the classic problem some people have with convection vapes, in that they lack the lung volume to really get the vapour flowing.

Agreed. If your vapcap is performing better than your EVO, then your EVO has a problem. I have tried every portable on the market the last 10 years and the EVO completely destroys all of them.

 

[habitat-fc]

It might be the classic problem some people have with convection vapes, in that they lack the lung volume to really get the vapour flowing.

Maybe, but the Ghost MV1 is a convection vape also. I think the unit wasn't working correctly or user error.

 

[CentiZen]

Hey all, I was just wondering if anyone's found a reliable way to deal with the ring of gunk that builds up inside the bamboo at the point where the bottom of the ELB sits. I can only insert an elb about 95% of the way in now because this has gotten so large and solid. I've tried cleaning it but I'm really afraid of damaging the bamboo. Any ideas?

 

[His_Highness]

Hey all, I was just wondering if anyone's found a reliable way to deal with the ring of gunk that builds up inside the bamboo at the point where the bottom of the ELB sits. I can only insert an elb about 95% of the way in now because this has gotten so large and solid. I've tried cleaning it but I'm really afraid of damaging the bamboo. Any ideas?

How about heating it to max to soften it up. Then let it cool a bit, cap the bottom and fill with ISO to cover the glob. Let sit for a bit and go at it with a q-tip?

 

[Mikey]

My roommate keeps knocking off the top of the ELB. I don’t have that problem, but it gunks up my HT. Any tips?

 

[His_Highness]

My roommate keeps knocking off the top of the ELB. I don’t have that problem, but it gunks up my HT. Any tips?

I take a needle nose pliers, place both ends of the pliers in the cap and spread very lightly. Doesn't take much pressure and the cap stays in the ELB. I've also used the same approach with the top of the ELB itself if it was popping out during a draw. You could substitute a scissor for the pliers but you gotta be super careful not to slice the cap or ELB.

 

[CANtalk]

@CentiZen, long cotton swabs are available on Amazon and will help keep the bamboo clean with regular use. I don't have any significant buildup on my EVO so a quick wipe with ISO once every few weeks seems to be working well so far. For more stubborn oil you could try hot ISO and a little coarse salt. I recently picked up some PBW cleaner (powdered brewery wash) that's supposed to be excellent. I've also seen some other cleaners recommended such as Formula 420 and Grunge Off (both are around and at Amazon). Before the PBW, I have done some light scraping on the boro glass VapeXnails with small long metal objects that fit (e.g., stirring tool) so that's an option (do at your own risk

).

@Mikey, someone also earlier mentioned that taking a fork or something like that and using one prong to lightly put a divot inwards into the top of the ELB (with the lid off) on opposite sides works well. It acts to pinch the lid. After tweaking the ELB this way, or the lid as @His_Highness mentions, I have zero issues with the ELB now. Works great.

Hope that helps. Cheers

 

[wildything]

Hey all, I was just wondering if anyone's found a reliable way to deal with the ring of gunk that builds up inside the bamboo at the point where the bottom of the ELB sits. I can only insert an elb about 95% of the way in now because this has gotten so large and solid. I've tried cleaning it but I'm really afraid of damaging the bamboo. Any ideas?

I found a quick careful bamboo iso soak, maybe use a funnel but be careful not to overflow since it only needs a couple ozs, and qtips dipped iso followed by a toothpick scraping cleaned cleaned up the annoying ring of res.
Then carefully pour some distilled water to rinse it out

 

[Brewervapesalot]

My roommate keeps knocking off the top of the ELB. I don’t have that problem, but it gunks up my HT. Any tips?

If loose cap:

Put the cap down on a table wider side down, narrower side up. Press down with your thumb. Test in the basket. If not tight enough, repeat with a little more pressure. Check again. Repeat as necessary.

If tight cap:

Roll the narrow end of the cap sideways against the edge of a table. Add more pressure and for more time as needed.

The baskets and lids are quite pliable and adjustable if you just put pressure on them the right way.....

 

[Brewervapesalot]

Hey all, I was just wondering if anyone's found a reliable way to deal with the ring of gunk that builds up inside the bamboo at the point where the bottom of the ELB sits. I can only insert an elb about 95% of the way in now because this has gotten so large and solid. I've tried cleaning it but I'm really afraid of damaging the bamboo. Any ideas?

A simple way is to unplug the unit when warm, not hot, then stuff the inside of the bamboo with paper towel soaked with iso. Put plastic wrap over the paper towel so it won't dry fast. Leave over night. Then work at it, if needed, with a small pipe cleaner, like for a pax.

 

[alltoreup]

Warm bamboo and warm iso are the only things I’ve found to cut that crud safely. I start scrubbing on mine as soon as the iso stops sizzling on the bamboo. Makes the job 10 times easier than cold scrubbing.

 

[macbill]

A piece a glass some of you may want is called a 19/22 Glass Claisen Adapter. It's a 3-way "Y" adapter. This allows you to mount the EVO on one "Y" arm, and use the other arm as a carburetor. This one is for 18mm joints but Ebay has all types.

 

[MonsterWithoutBorders]

Warm bamboo and warm iso are the only things I’ve found to cut that crud safely. I start scrubbing on mine as soon as the iso stops sizzling on the bamboo. Makes the job 10 times easier than cold scrubbing.

I also have found that happiness is a warm....

 

[gaseous_clay]

A friend comes over & as I am getting the EVO warmed up he asks if we can just vape off my Pax. Said the EVO is too much for him. I was laughing inside, as the PAX hadn't been charged or cleaned in a while. It tasted bad & died after a couple pulls. Sorry wimp! Go home to your edibles. I'll enjoy my EVO!