I ordered a new IR thermometer - I lost mine, think it's with my lost Pinnacle - so I can check the temp difference between the OG ticker and the EVO.
After more testing, I definitely agree with those who've pointed out that the EVO is much better with an HT than the original cloud. Really seems designed for it, and I love the EB turbine HT.
Also, on SM's advice, I turned booth units all the way to full, then compared. The vapor seems equally dense - I can;t see through either - but the EVO ABV is much more evenly cooked, and the vape tests better to the last pull.
Also, turning the EVO to 5 for 10 minutes or so, then turning it back down to my desired setting, makes its performance better. And its behavior is more predictable - the dial is more accurate. On the OG I sometimes scorch at only 2; has not happened on the EVO.
I think my OG ticker has been running hot for a while. I've been getting literally black ABV from it.
Will report more later, espec with temp comparisons. I must say, if I hadn't already had a Cloud, the EVO would be a dream come true.
So has mine!
I've hit two ELBs now also. Same observations. Seems to run more accurately with the stated goal of 350F at Noon (I haven't measured it, but seems closer to that temp). ELB fits better.
Mine is now whistling on both my bubbler, and the HT. Like, whistling LOUD. I think this may be related to the slight airflow change with the less restrictive bamboo? Mine just said "repair", so I am assuming that the bamboo was changed out (I never saw broken glass - but it was most likely that issue).
Wow...this is unreal.
I thought the EVO was incredible before. Now with the recalibration and (what I think is) a larger glass part, it's hitting massive. Much more efficient, yet the extra airflow allows for the biggest of rips. I'm having the smallest drag I've ever had on my chuggy pieces.
After a total of 3 full ELBs I can say that I am very pleased with the device. I won't really ramble about all of the positives that you guys know about. It is light, the extraction is superb and the build quality is excellent.
Only negative I have is that I think my EVO is running cold. I like higher temperature sessions and on max temp I get very light brown ABV. Max actually seems like about 1:30 on my Plus. I get very tasty vapor and pretty nice hits, but I cannot milk the HT or my Mobius. Also after every hit the EVO goes red and it takes about 30 seconds to a minute for it to light green again.
So it looks I'll be sending the EVO back for calibration. My ABV is noticeably more uniform than my Plus but I'm pretty sure I should be combusting on max. The unit gets me thoroughly baked but it just isn't delivering the punch I am after.
Disappointing to hear 1 of the latest EVO's received, seems to have calibration issues.
Are you letting it warm up like SM55 suggested? See a few pages back.
Well your calling it a dime? Then you said it weighs 1.7? Which means Shwag? If so your numbers will be off.alright i just got it. the hydra tube is really beautiful. I'm not sure how to post pictures but its a straight neck early bird and i haven't seen one on the thread yet. the thing that surprised me the most is how small the bowl is. its way smaller then the extreme q bowl. and people say they can get medicated putting in just enough to fill the bottom? I'm kinda a lightweight so this suits me really well. it makes me not feel as bad paying outrageous prices just for a dime. so if i were to only use .025 bowls a 1.7 gram dime would last me like 68 sessions lol. and you can get like 2 or 3 drags from it? thats 136-204 drags per dime. lol it sounds too good to be true but Ill probably get a dime tonight to test it out.
Well your calling it a dime? Then you said it weighs 1.7? Which means Shwag? If so your numbers will be off.
well I'm not sure what terminology you use but the way I understand it is a dime is just 1.7 grams and doesn't have anything to do with quality. I think it used to be worth 10 dollars in the past (witch would make more sense) but then weed got more expensive and people just kept calling the same amount dime. I have payed as low as 20 and as much as 40 for 1.7
and yeah i do understand that higher quality flowers will produce more vapor
Bottom line is better weed vapes better. Shitty weed hardly vapes at all sometimes. And it's not just that you vape more to get there. Shitty weed doesn't have enough actives on the surface to vape effectively. I've had shwag before that only medicated when smoking. Just make sure you are using good weed when doing your math above!
Around here we call it a 16thwell I'm not sure what terminology you use but the way I understand it is a dime is just 1.7 grams and doesn't have anything to do with quality. I think it used to be worth 10 dollars in the past (witch would make more sense) but then weed got more expensive and people just kept calling the same amount dime. I have payed as low as 20 and as much as 40 for 1.7
and yeah i do understand that higher quality flowers will produce more vapor
I thought they said all bamboo restrictions are going to be consistent in EVOs. There are probably less variations, but I still see people having abnormaly restrictive bamboos.
I hope I will finally get a low-drag one. I only had a high-drag Cloud for 200 days. And I know that if it allowed me to pull faster, its performance would shine even more.
Your experience just confirms to me that overly-restrictive bamboos also restrict the performance. Yes, it will probably still vape batter than anything, it can just be even much better!
IMO every bamboo produced should be QC'd in detail, especially measuring diameters of these restrictions and discarding abnormal ones before they can be put into the device.
Just one restriction that is tiny bit smaller then the norm can increase the drag significantly and when it happens, it can be the only dislikeable part of the VapeXhale vapor experience imo.
As I've been testing the drag of different diameters, this is what it feel like to me:
5+mm diameter: Super-low drag, imo too litttle drag for a proper Cloud performance.
3-4mm diameter: Low-mid drag, I'd love restrictions like these ony my OG Cloud bamboo.
2mm diameter: This i s what I had on my OG and the drag was mid-high. Almost making me drooling when pulling the hardest. Clouds with these still function wonderfully, but not to the full potential.
1mm diameter: Unusable, its like pulling ice-cream through a drinking straw.
alright haha. i will try to get a good quality 16th and then report back on how long it lasted. for those concerned about efficiency.Around here we call it a 16th
alright haha. i will try to get a good quality 16th and then report back on how long it lasted. for those concerned about efficiency.
Disappointing to hear 1 of the latest EVO's received, seems to have calibration issues.
Are you letting it warm up like SM55 suggested? See a few pages back.
Ok yea in that case send that baby inYea it was on for an hour before I even took the first draw at 1 pm and I got really wispy vapor. I had a feeling something was off so I bumped it to max and let it sit for another 20 and my ABV is tan at best.
Bottom line is better weed vapes better. Shitty weed hardly vapes at all sometimes. And it's not just that you vape more to get there. Shitty weed doesn't have enough actives on the surface to vape effectively. I've had shwag before that only medicated when smoking. Just make sure you are using good weed when doing your math above!
Bottom line is better weed vapes better. Shitty weed hardly vapes at all sometimes. And it's not just that you vape more to get there. Shitty weed doesn't have enough actives on the surface to vape effectively. I've had shwag before that only medicated when smoking. Just make sure you are using good weed when doing your math above!
So, apparently, I think I've proven you can pull too slow with it.
I have to pull just fast enough to initiate 'whistle' mode to get good vapor density.
Is there anything that can be done about the whistle? can i like, bees wax the joint? that seems... no. not right at all. sprinkle kief on it?
Sorry if this is pretty vague, but I have no desire to steal his or their thunder. As a teaser I hope he won’t mind my mentioning that they have heard our musings about a portable device and......think VapeXhale quality and inventiveness.