VapCap Induction Heater for Desktop and in Car Use

bossman

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I got a cheap "COOLM" brand 6A 2.5mm power adapter for my Jarhead on Amazon and it's working much better now than the 5A that it replaced. Only used it the once so far so no evidence of reliability yet
 
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Vape_Or_Die420

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Any suggestion on where to buy a car power adapter for the Caldron? I regret not originally buying one from pipes but at this point shipping from Canada is too much.
 
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Pipes

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I have an announcement about a new activation switch mechanism I've introduced into my IH heaters. I started shipping new units about a week ago so some will already have or getting this new design.
The current switch scheme is all held in place with the shrink wrap tubing and has virtually no serviceability. Also, those Orings and the pearl heat shield have been the Achilles heel of the whole driver assembly. Understandably, as it is the only moving part. I’ve changed this design 3 other times over the years and think this is the best to date.
After lots of pondering over how to improve the mechanism. The main step was to make a holder for the switch and LEDs and align the works to the glass tube. I got myself a 3D printer just for this task.
Here are a couple of pics that show the new tactile switch holder part.


This part cradles the switch on one side, holds the LEDs along the sides as well as holds the glass all with the one little piece. This ensures all parts are aligned and secure.
Makes my life a little easier as the LEDs fit into channels and the leads twisted, soldered and tucked away. Same wiring as before. The + side of the diode string is joined to one side of the switch. This attaches to V+. The red wire is the switch out which goes to the FET gate. And finally, the – of the diode string which has a resistor attached inside shrink wrap goes to switched ground. Nothing new, just a cleaner package. Fits snugly into the glass tube.

Now here is the biggest change. Kinda mimics the silicone oven glove or cork which has been discussed a few times. In which, one would cut a piece out, and use it for either a spacer or to protect their cap from dents.

These new disks are very dense high temperature, 3 mm thick silicone pads. Rated for 220C continuous use. However, they will melt if a cap is pressed in well past the click and beyond combustion which I’m hoping is a very rare event. Those who use concentrate will have to keep this in mind. They do stay nice and shiny under normal use.
These disks slide into the tube and rest on top of the switch. Now due to tolerances in the glass tube as well as punching out these disks, they are manually selected while assembling such that they have some friction to keep from falling out as well as not being too tight, thus possibly causing the IH to stay on. I can foresee this being the next issue if one isn’t doing cleaning from time to time. Cleaning will be fairly easy as you can just fish out the heat shield and clean it and the glass with Q-tips and ISO. Sizing these disks down if too tight is also easy as you just rub the side of the disk, like an eraser so to take some diameter or high spot down. Doesn’t take much.
The other caution is to NEVER use the heater without this disk in place. The top of the switch will melt very quickly. I’ve started including an emergency spare disk tucked away between those big ass choke coils. I’m sure some will lose or manage to melt theirs.

No O-rings… Ahh!

Still have to hold the switch in place from the bottom. That ¾” shrink wrap is great stuff!
Here it is all ready less the coil. It’s removable BTW. You’ll see a couple of pics down.

All assembled. Pretty much the same look as before.

What’s this…?

Yes, as a last resort for troubleshooting, glass replacement, or even cleaning, one can grasp the bottom portion and hold against the board, while pulling the upper portion off. Giving the glass a twist to start helps. Also, a drop of water between the coil and glass helps to act as a lubricant if needed.

So it doesn't look much different but has lots of hidden advantages. That new silicone heat shield is great and doesn't melt within the temperature we use. I’m also including a spare that is hidden away between those big coils so they don’t get lost until it may be needed.
The advantages are:
The overall stability of the mechanism.
Has some adjustability by coil not being locked into place.
Better consistency as I no longer have to judge spacings etc.
And no more complaints about dented caps.
The only disadvantage is the possibility of accidental major overheats may melt the heat shield. Fixable by flipping it or replacing it. Can also be replaced DIY with 2 layers of a silicone oven mitt cut to fit.
For current owners, you can accomplish the same “feel” by using a disk cut from an oven glove.
 

Mono Loco

Well-Known Member
No "resting on one's laurels" at Pipes' house!

This revision is across all models, right ... B.B., Caldron, and PSM (I assume).

If there's enough slack in the pre-coil magnetic wire to allow the coil to be lifted (tilted) up for servicing, is the enough slack there to allow the coil to be raised up a hair when put back into "work" position, away from the switch, such that the coil moves away from the cap's clicker tip ... such that a longer heating time would result, if such a tweak were desired by a user?

Everyone with an older unit should buy a new one cuz' their older ones will no doubt become classic collectibles that will increase in value ... stop using them immediately, clean them and pack them away with some desiccant packets!!!!! (Also, Pipes deserves the business ... made in North America, Baby!)
 
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vapcat

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Received my psm this morning!! :))
Update: love it! (Never going to be a question)

took the psm through 4discharge cycles and then did a test on the battery. I was able to get 49 clicks from it. In most cases I would finish a bowl in 2 clicks, but on occasion it needed a third. I did this over 4 sessions so in some cases the tip was cold, sometime warm but I feel like 40-50 clicks can be expected, depending on type of use.That’s 10-20 bowls depending how I push it.
I’ve been using a Ti tip... maybe a gen 6or7... 5fin. When I used my OG M (16?) tip, it took much longer so I would expect far fewer clicks per charge. With that said, now that I have a sense of what to expect I won’t be depleting the battery so no more tests. 👨🏻‍🔬
 

BabyFacedFinster

Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
Update: love it! (Never going to be a question)

took the psm through 4discharge cycles and then did a test on the battery. I was able to get 49 clicks from it. In most cases I would finish a bowl in 2 clicks, but on occasion it needed a third. I did this over 4 sessions so in some cases the tip was cold, sometime warm but I feel like 40-50 clicks can be expected, depending on type of use.That’s 10-20 bowls depending how I push it.
I’ve been using a Ti tip... maybe a gen 6or7... 5fin. When I used my OG M (16?) tip, it took much longer so I would expect far fewer clicks per charge. With that said, now that I have a sense of what to expect I won’t be depleting the battery so no more tests. 👨🏻‍🔬

Best wishes with your PSM @vapcat. Sounds like you're having fun with it. :tup: It is one of the best purchases I've made in vaping.

By comparing an M tip you are experiencing the difference of using a stainless steel tip versus Ti. Many like the quick effect (heat up/cool down) of titanium. Right now I like the slower temp change of SS and prefer my M tips over the Ti tips. IMHO I feel the slower heat up gives time for a good heat soak. YMMV.

These type of cases came up a while ago as a nice travel or carry case for the PSM. The only issue is that some folks claimed there was some slight variation in sizing and some needed to break in the leather to get a good fit. For the price it was worth the chance. Mine fits snug but well. When I need to take it on the road, I use the case because it offers quite a bit of protection and ease of use.

 
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cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
I got one of the MegaGear cases posted above and it is a very nice case for the PSM. I was able to get a used one for under $7 delivered and that made it even better. :nod: The PSM is kinda heavy and a little awkward shape for carrying around and this case smooths out those issues. I have only used it with the strap, but I can imagine circumstances where the belt loop may also be useful. Definitely worth considering if you want to bring your PSM with you out and about. I am much more likely to use my VC out of the house when I have the PSM with me.
 

fatbiker

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So I need some advise from my fell FC'ers.

I recently acquired my first IH which is the Alpine 2020. Unfortunately, I don't have much fait in the longevity of the heater. However, I am now hooked on the functionality of an IH. I am considering buying another IH to be my main driver both at home and on the go. I am between the JoJo and maybe a PSM. For those of you who have either one can you please fill me in on the pros and cons of each.

Specifically the PSM, how long does the battery last? Is it a durable unit? What do you like and dislike about it? The PSM seems to be a popular Ih with plenty of positive reviews.

I appreciate you input.
 

NexVision

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If you are deciding between JOJO and PSM I would go PSM hands down, its a smaller more well designed footprint and metal box. Look at the Flux Deluxe as well longer waitlist but another metal unit to add to your list.

As far as longevity goes it has a 1 year warranty which is more then you will get from most so I wouldnt worry to much about that, however if your wanting to try different heating profiles I think thats a great reason I tried all of em that I could to find the one that my style and devices as everyone is going to be a little different.
 

BabyFacedFinster

Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
So I need some advise from my fell FC'ers.

I recently acquired my first IH which is the Alpine 2020. Unfortunately, I don't have much fait in the longevity of the heater. However, I am now hooked on the functionality of an IH. I am considering buying another IH to be my main driver both at home and on the go. I am between the JoJo and maybe a PSM. For those of you who have either one can you please fill me in on the pros and cons of each.

Specifically the PSM, how long does the battery last? Is it a durable unit? What do you like and dislike about it? The PSM seems to be a popular Ih with plenty of positive reviews.

I appreciate you input.

I have never used a jojo, but I have bought a corded Caldron for me and one for my father, and also a PSM and we love them all. @Pipes stands by his products and won't leave you in the cold (literally).

Portable IH designs are still in their infancy, but the PSM is a solid and tested design. If there is anything I don't like.... well, my PSM is a bit quick to the click at 3-4 seconds compared to the caldrons. I wish the heat up was a little slower. Also, when the technology catches up to everyone, a smaller battery would allow these things to have a smaller footprint.

But for what I like... it makes my vapcaps very enjoyable to use, great hits and great flavor because of uniform heating. I like how the unit is activated by depressing the vapcap not with a separate button. It is also pretty rugged feeling. I think I could club someone with it if necessary, like self-defense. :rolleyes:

I cruise the IH threads here quite a bit and don't recall much mention of the Jojo, beyond seeing a few short homemade youtube videos.
 
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fatbiker

Well-Known Member
I am also consider the VapHotBox. They have a free battery replacement and a 1 year warranty. The battery also seems quite a bit larger than many of the others.

Anyone have any input on that model?
 
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TommyDee

Vaporitor
@fatbiker - It's a 2S 18650 configuration. It's a slow bake. Very proud of the cells they use. Small and convenient. Nope, don't have one but these are all similar. I sent you a PM.
 
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webtroter

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I have an announcement about a new activation switch mechanism I've introduced into my IH heaters. I started shipping new units about a week ago so some will already have or getting this new design.
The current switch scheme is all held in place with the shrink wrap tubing and has virtually no serviceability. Also, those Orings and the pearl heat shield have been the Achilles heel of the whole driver assembly. Understandably, as it is the only moving part. I’ve changed this design 3 other times over the years and think this is the best to date.
After lots of pondering over how to improve the mechanism. The main step was to make a holder for the switch and LEDs and align the works to the glass tube. I got myself a 3D printer just for this task.
Here are a couple of pics that show the new tactile switch holder part.


This part cradles the switch on one side, holds the LEDs along the sides as well as holds the glass all with the one little piece. This ensures all parts are aligned and secure.
Makes my life a little easier as the LEDs fit into channels and the leads twisted, soldered and tucked away. Same wiring as before. The + side of the diode string is joined to one side of the switch. This attaches to V+. The red wire is the switch out which goes to the FET gate. And finally, the – of the diode string which has a resistor attached inside shrink wrap goes to switched ground. Nothing new, just a cleaner package. Fits snugly into the glass tube.

Now here is the biggest change. Kinda mimics the silicone oven glove or cork which has been discussed a few times. In which, one would cut a piece out, and use it for either a spacer or to protect their cap from dents.

These new disks are very dense high temperature, 3 mm thick silicone pads. Rated for 220C continuous use. However, they will melt if a cap is pressed in well past the click and beyond combustion which I’m hoping is a very rare event. Those who use concentrate will have to keep this in mind. They do stay nice and shiny under normal use.
These disks slide into the tube and rest on top of the switch. Now due to tolerances in the glass tube as well as punching out these disks, they are manually selected while assembling such that they have some friction to keep from falling out as well as not being too tight, thus possibly causing the IH to stay on. I can foresee this being the next issue if one isn’t doing cleaning from time to time. Cleaning will be fairly easy as you can just fish out the heat shield and clean it and the glass with Q-tips and ISO. Sizing these disks down if too tight is also easy as you just rub the side of the disk, like an eraser so to take some diameter or high spot down. Doesn’t take much.
The other caution is to NEVER use the heater without this disk in place. The top of the switch will melt very quickly. I’ve started including an emergency spare disk tucked away between those big ass choke coils. I’m sure some will lose or manage to melt theirs.

No O-rings… Ahh!

Still have to hold the switch in place from the bottom. That ¾” shrink wrap is great stuff!
Here it is all ready less the coil. It’s removable BTW. You’ll see a couple of pics down.

All assembled. Pretty much the same look as before.

What’s this…?

Yes, as a last resort for troubleshooting, glass replacement, or even cleaning, one can grasp the bottom portion and hold against the board, while pulling the upper portion off. Giving the glass a twist to start helps. Also, a drop of water between the coil and glass helps to act as a lubricant if needed.

So it doesn't look much different but has lots of hidden advantages. That new silicone heat shield is great and doesn't melt within the temperature we use. I’m also including a spare that is hidden away between those big coils so they don’t get lost until it may be needed.
The advantages are:
The overall stability of the mechanism.
Has some adjustability by coil not being locked into place.
Better consistency as I no longer have to judge spacings etc.
And no more complaints about dented caps.
The only disadvantage is the possibility of accidental major overheats may melt the heat shield. Fixable by flipping it or replacing it. Can also be replaced DIY with 2 layers of a silicone oven mitt cut to fit.
For current owners, you can accomplish the same “feel” by using a disk cut from an oven glove.

Hi,

Received a IH module some times ago. waiting for my PSM.

I have one comment on my IH module. I found out that the silicone pieces get stuck on the button. Have you had the same problem on another one ?

I use the two pieces, with both my SS 2019 Tip and TiTip. With one piece, i felt like my SS would almost combust
 
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I have had 2 other reports about this. After some digging, it seems that there is no melting happening, no visible or sticky substance. The conclusion seems that there is a little pull from the formulation of the silicone pad. This is a very small pull and only effecting ones that have a very loose-fitting cap. It's hard to remember to tilt some before lifting so the best solution is to make the cap slightly out of round so it holds tighter to the bowl. This is not an uncommon practice for other reasons as well. :science:
 

webtroter

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I have had 2 other reports about this. After some digging, it seems that there is no melting happening, no visible or sticky substance. The conclusion seems that there is a little pull from the formulation of the silicone pad. This is a very small pull and only effecting ones that have a very loose-fitting cap. It's hard to remember to tilt some before lifting so the best solution is to make the cap slightly out of round so it holds tighter to the bowl. This is not an uncommon practice for other reasons as well. :science:

I did encounter this problem, fixed with captive cap or squeezing the cap.

But I wasn't talking about the cap staying in the tube.

I meant that the button get stuck and keeps the circuit closed (all leds on). Sometimes it seems like it is just the pads that are pushed too far because I don't get the button to click to close the circuit. When the button get stuck, I unplug my module and play with the pads with with my dynavap until I get the button to click again. could reducing the radius on the pad solve the problem?
 
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