Tornado by Vestratto
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PrematureEvaporation
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Another use case for the IH, is outdoor use. Here in England it’s coming up for the time of year where it’s windy nearly every day. The IH is king on these days. It’s also nice when I’ve had a drink and can’t torch or the times I just don’t want to, like relaxing watching a film or whatever. It’s a bit less obvious than a torch in illegal countries, too.
One thing that seems to be apparent from a lot of these owner comments is that the Tornado is somehow less thermally hungry than the Anvil. Some seriously quick heatups with flame sizes and heat sources that the Anvil wouldn’t have given anywhere near best performance with. IMO that is an impressive feat of engineering by John
One thing that seems to be apparent from a lot of these owner comments is that the Tornado is somehow less thermally hungry than the Anvil. Some seriously quick heatups with flame sizes and heat sources that the Anvil wouldn’t have given anywhere near best performance with. IMO that is an impressive feat of engineering by John
Roffa
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I had some Vestratto odds and ends lying about, like the first user stem and that screw in/friction connector that everyone hated so much. The Tornado sort of fits. A little bit wobbly but secure enough. Very satisfactory. I fit it with the XL mouthpiece with a cooling spiral. Very blunt like effect if I heat uniformly along the entire length of the device.
anome
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Not my word, and I see now the terminology on their website is atomizer. Don't really care if marketing calls is sublimation, atomiser, or this rather even more mystifying gasifier as read here; pretty sure the vape is already that. But, the only real point is, without pressure, the physics are against you.
eyevape
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I agree in theory. But in practice I choose TM2 or Venty for adverse weather conditions, and for the relaxing situation it’s Tempest + Wand or Venty.
I much rather stick with my perfect heating method and change the device if required, than changing the heating method. I always have two devices with me, Anvil and TM2 or Venty. So I’m ready for any condition.
PrematureEvaporation
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Yeah I totally get that. I have a Solo 3 myself for the same purpose - it’s the closest thing to an electric Anvil out there IMO. That’s why I’m not sweating about the coming windy winter, well that and the cold
It’s certainly a personal preference thing. I was happy using a single DV for years and just swapping torch and IH as the situation demanded. I had them both dialled in to the point the hit was the same, which was all that mattered to me. I just outgrew it and wanted better effects and flavour really. I feel like that’s something I could maybe entertain again but with the Tornado and wand/torch this time. I won’t know if that’s right for me until I use the Tornado for a while though
That's what's stopping me from jumping in yet. I want to be able to put this on the Tempest stem.
Smknbud
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Never thought to use my Wand with the Tornado having a Forge and Flare. Tried today......and owe you an apology. I inserted opposite side of Wand as you did in video, mostly out of habit, but I got the same AVB that it was taking the Flare 60 seconds at max watts in less than half that time. Total opposite experience of heating my Anvil in Wand.
electrokho82
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I am at bowl number 8 and still have batteries... Will continue....@electrokho82
Any chance you could fully charge the wand and tell us how many bowls in the tornado you get before the wand dies and needs recharging?
Doing that same heatup you did in the video please
VapingYogi
Pranayama; of a sort.
@AndyO I was just playing with the wand I have and it works; so as frustrated as I am that I can't use the forge at least my faulty wand works. That being said I will keep using my torch as I prefer it and it might be my faulty wand but I had to go a few seconds past the click to get the same sort of extraction I am used to with the torch.
EDIT: I did it again with a torch and it was much further along (more brown & more obviously started to be acted upon by the conduction - will video when I have time
Here is a quick example of what you where asking for (but using the wand) It was wafting up vapour towards my face when I opened the bowl up, the herb is clumpy and when you touch it its all hard/dry but stuck together into clumps - so while the colour isn't significantly different you can feel and smell the difference.
EDIT: I did it again with a torch and it was much further along (more brown & more obviously started to be acted upon by the conduction - will video when I have time
When AndyO asked me to confirm if the wand works I didn't believe him and the first 3 times it came up with an "Error 0"... until I turned it upside down... anyway even my faulty wand works and its really quick - that being said I am not sure it is completely heated in the same way as using a torch so I find myself torch on the atomizer though afterwards to finish the job.
I'm just amazed at how clean the stem stays
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PrematureEvaporation
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Thanks for the update, 8 is already more than I thought. I’m interested how many more it’ll give you before it runs out.
I think your posts have totally killed my curiosity in the forge and flare, I’ll definitely just use the wand like you are doing. The amount of bowls you have got so far is plenty for my needs, let alone how many more you’ll get yet!
hotmeals
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I put some of my better weed in the Tornado and it took me to Terp Town. I think I would say now that I'm getting a bit of a "cleaner" flavor than the Anvil. It's been working very well with any load size. I'm still hesitant to describe the effects as "stronger", but the signature does feel unique for me. It gets in deep, sticks around, and I don't feel as much of a crash as I sometimes can when the effects are wearing off.
I really appreciate it. I expected it to have a lot of conduction. But it's nice to have thay confirmed. It will be a an evening/night time vape only for me personally.
electrokho82
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I have some great news (I’m surprised myself!): I managed to get a total of 18 bowls (between 0.1 and 0.2 grams per bowl) out of the Ispire Wand and the Tornado before the batteries died. That’s amazing! I’m no longer interested in the Forge or Camouflet’s induction heater, a simple Ispire Wand is enough. For the first session, it takes 21 seconds for the first click and 22 seconds for the second clic. For the 18th session, it took 28 seconds for the first click and 31 seconds for the second click. Here’s the video of the 18 bowls, sped up 10 times:
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PrematureEvaporation
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18 bowls?! That is utterly ridiculous from a supposed “last gen” IH. Thank you so much for doing this. I’m fully sold on the Tornado and wand combo after watching the video. Perfect roast every time too - no worries about losing heating power as the battery drains.
Big achievement from John. I love how the two most hyped butane pen vapes this year both work great with the wand
Garybuchanen
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What happened to your nails my guy
PrematureEvaporation
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What happened to your nails my guy
eyevape
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How the actual fuck? That’s truly amazing. And look at that AVB, seems perfectly roasted. I want to know so hard how this can be true, since the Tornado has even more thermal mass than the Anvil. Maybe it uses the induction power more efficient as it’s quite big, getting closer to the Wand sidewalls?
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electrokho82
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I have no idea how, but it works! This thing heats up in the wand after just 21 seconds. I would have expected it to take at least twice as long as the Anvil, but it's actually the opposite—it takes half the time to click. It's almost like Vestratto designed the Tornado to boost Forge sales, but in the end, they'll end up driving Ispire Wand sales instead! That said, the Anvil and the Tornado are definitely the best analog vaporizers on the market right now. I'm still waiting for my Tempest, which I should receive next week, so I'll be able to compare it with the Anvil and the Tornado.
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@electrokho82 Honestly, I wouldn’t have even tried this, as I would have expected the Wand to run home to mommy or to die on the spot by Karoshi This little fella is much stronger as it seemed from Tempest use. Didn’t count the sessions though, but I doubt it was 18.
This little fella is much stronger as it seemed from Tempest use. Didn’t count the sessions though, but I doubt it was 18.
Smknbud
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No shit.....and why I wrongly challenged the Wand working like it actually does.
leanpubpackage
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Heat retention is not as good as that of the tempest if you’re looking for a reference point. My preferred way to use the tornado is like a flower dab, load as much as I can physically handle clearing in 1-2 big hits. Not a session vape
electrokho82
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So far, I’ve only used it in 'One Hit' mode, and it works really well that way—I’d even say it excels. The vapor is so smooth that I have no trouble inhaling everything in one go, it’s fantastic! Honestly, I don’t even feel the need to use it for a multi-puff session, but I’ll probably give that a try later on.