Tornado by Vestratto

[Sidoney]

Ill give a quick 2 week ownership update.

I haven't turned on my Terp Hammer or T360 in the 2 weeks since getting the Tornado. I've just had 0 desire to use anything else which is very surprising to me (except the Venty and Anvil on occasion).

I've had the Tempest arrive today and that's complementing the Tornado perfectly. One vape gives the smoothest monster rips that really do feel like they hit different, and the other I can puff on like a joint and get incredible flavour.

I have the Vapman and Anvil for micro dosing, but discovered you can microdose even more easily and with greater efficiency and effects in the Tornado. I love the Vapman ritual, but again - the Tornado is just... incredible at everything?

I genuinely think my ball vapes are about to start collecting a LOT of dust.

Wife still uses the TM2 all the time (she loves it) and the Venty gets used occasionally (might see less with the Tempest, but it's still the best vape to bring out imo and will be seeing the beech a lot again this summer!)

 

[AndyO]

Tell you what, for all the hype another recently released butane-powered(/IH powered) device is getting, my first impressions of this are much, much better. Easy to use, massive rips, and there's something going on with the vapor - it clouds up the bowl like friggen gangbusters, but also seems like the thinnest, easiest to draw vapor I've ever had.

I do hope I'm in the midst of a breaking in period though, cos using my Ronx torch turned right down with a single flame, the first click is still overcooking the weed. So I need to get a smaller lighter and use an even slower heat up, which is somewhat laborious.

 

[Vapetothegrave]

Tell you what, for all the hype another recently released butane-powered(/IH powered) device is getting, my first impressions of this are much, much better. Easy to use, massive rips, and there's something going on with the vapor - it clouds up the bowl like friggen gangbusters, but also seems like the thinnest, easiest to draw vapor I've ever had.

I do hope I'm in the midst of a breaking in period though, cos using my Ronx torch turned right down with a single flame, the first click is still overcooking the weed. So I need to get a smaller lighter and use an even slower heat up, which is somewhat laborious.

I Know this sounds odd but try turning your torch to a larger flame to get a lesser "roast" my theory is with all the thermal mass in this thing, the small flame is actually storing more energy before heating up the click disks to temp.

This is what happened with mine, I make the inner blue flame of the ronxs the same size as the airflow holes to the top of the bowl. Also try to avoid torching directly in the airflow holes.

 

[AndyO]

I Know this sounds odd but try turning your torch to a larger flame to get a lesser "roast" my theory is with all the thermal mass in this thing, the small flame is actually storing more energy before heating up the click disks to temp.

This is what happened with mine, I make the inner blue flame of the ronxs the same size as the airflow holes to the top of the bowl. Also try to avoid torching directly in the airflow holes.

Thanks for the tip, that's a really interesting idea. I'll give it a go tomorrow and report back.

It also just occurred to me that I could be over roasting it cos I'm rotating it as I heat. I'm not even sure why, I've never done that with the Anvil! Possibly cos I've been using the VerdaVap (and Tempest) recently, which performs better when rotated during heating.

My major, major criticism of the device is that it would've been nice to get even some cursory instructions. Once you start the torch or put it in the induction heater, you're 100% on your own. If you didn't have experience with the Anvil, it might take you a while to figure the Tornado out.

 

[Vapetothegrave]

My major, major criticism of the device is that it would've been nice to get even some cursory instructions. Once you start the torch or put it in the induction heater, you're 100% on your own. If you didn't have experience with the Anvil, it might take you a while to figure the Tornado out.

I agree, it is quite clear that vestratto just leaves instructions for their devices outside of a little cue card up to the community. Kind of hard to position something as a medical device if you expect patients to search the internet high and low for proper usage instructions.

Which is really a shame considering how simple the tornado is... compared to the IMO complex style of the other vape you mentioned (which has amazing instructions).

 

[eyevape]

Are you happy owners all torching the bowl housing instead of the branded gasifier part? I use to torch my Anvil directly at the thermal battery with the inner flame touching it to get the hit I want. I wonder what that does to the Tornado.

Mine was supposed to be delivered today, but it’s stuck in customs. Should be a matter of days now.

 

[Vapetothegrave]

Are you happy owners all torching the bowl housing instead of the branded gasifier part? I use to torch my Anvil directly at the thermal battery with the inner flame touching it.

Mine was supposed to be delivered today, but it’s stuck in customs. Should be a matter of days now.

I torch the atomizer for about half the time total, other half is spent on the oven.

 

[AndyO]

I torch the atomizer for about half the time total, other half is spent on the oven.

Again on the instructions, I didn't even know you were meant to heat the atomizer.

How was that supposed to work with the Forge? Just heat conductivity down the stem?

 

[eyevape]

Since I saw @Whiff heating the oven and getting near green AVB, I thought that a more aggressive heating might be better suited for me. My Anvil AVB is well roasted from one heat up, I’d like to achieve the same with the Tornado.

 

[PrematureEvaporation]

Speaking of the lack of instructions.. I still remember getting my first Anvil, and it genuinely took me about an hour of trying to work out how to open the airflow before I gave up and searched online to find the answer.

That old airflow valve hated me. I ended up leaving it fully open to stop it wobbling and got the integrated stem as soon as it dropped.

I do look back now and laugh at that hour of utter confusion though, thought I’d received a dud

 

[Comfortably Numb]

I plan on trying that old stem with the Tornado....hated that thing

 

[Roffa]

Since I saw @Whiff heating the oven and getting near green AVB, I thought that a more aggressive heating might be better suited for me. My Anvil AVB is well roasted from one heat up, I’d like to achieve the same with the Tornado.

Larger flame and instead of rotating I heat along the entire length of the device, gasifier + oven until click. Just moving the flame slowly up and down

 

[SockPuppetTheatrics]

x-post from the Vestratto Discord:

Not sure if this has been posted already (this channel is moving crazy fast), does anyone have dimensions for the head of the Tornado (oven with bowl screwed in)? I want to get a scruffywoofers stand made for it, and I couldn't find specs on the Vestratto site.

Echoing what others have said, this thing is amazing. I've been using it on the USA (sans condenser), and while I don't love the stability of the connection, it's been great hitting it through the 3TM. Crazy amounts of vapor, very smooth, and better taste than the Anvil (IMO). No real comment on the physics / chemistry of it all beyond saying that to me, it seems like there's something going beyond just XXL Anvil. Also, this is weird, but it almost seems like there's something liquid in the stem / mouthpiece area.

Also, confidential to everyone, you can (but probably shouldn't) heat the Tornado with an iSpire / iSpure Wand; just set it to max, remove any adapters (it'll get stuck in the Tempest adapter), and insert from the bottom while staying the hell away from the glass lip at the top; you'll see an E01 message if you hit it, and I assume there's some potential to brick the Wand so it no longer senses devices (similar to the Forge). I got at least one click after it stopped heating but before time-out (solid yellow light instead of flashing) with medium brown ABV (my preference over near-black ABV I've gotten with two clicks using a torch).

 

[Texus]

Big late to the science discussion, but the face that @invertedisdead is themselves a manufacturer with competing devices to the Tornado, Electropath and Sublimator should probably be mentioned here.

Other than noting different and preferred effects from Tornado and Electropath (with vapes I am very familiar with like the TKO and Herborizer), I can't speak to the science, other than that there is SOMETHING going on there that makes a difference in terms of effects.

 

[Knewt]

x-post from the Vestratto Discord:

Not sure if this has been posted already (this channel is moving crazy fast), does anyone have dimensions for the head of the Tornado (oven with bowl screwed in)? I want to get a scruffywoofers stand made for it, and I couldn't find specs on the Vestratto site.

Mine is 0.55” in diameter, and 0.80“ long. Overall length is 3.0”. From the top down to the top of the finger ring is 2.0”. The Tornado is 2.03” long without the WPA.

 

[invertedisdead]

Big late to the science discussion, but the face that @invertedisdead is themselves a manufacturer with competing devices to the Tornado, Electropath and Sublimator should probably be mentioned here.

Other than noting different and preferred effects from Tornado and Electropath (with vapes I am very familiar with like the TKO and Herborizer), I can't speak to the science, other than that there is SOMETHING going on there that makes a difference in terms of effects.

Well I like to think of myself as a passionate vape enthusiast and upstanding member of this community, long before being a manufacturer of "ultra fine boutique vapor products for the discerning and obsessive connoisseur who simply demands the best" ™

Enjoy that Tornado in good health and heart friend,
'cause it looks like there's a "storm-a-brewin"

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[dutchey666]

Ordered one on Monday's drop and it's on the way already, I feel an f5 coming!

 

[hotmeals]

I finally gave in and torched my Tornado a few times. Two of three bowls were nothing spectacular due to my technique, but the third was much better. For me the flavor and effects are noticeably different from the Anvil's. It's hard to describe the flavor difference so far. From that third bowl it seems capable of flavor at least as good as the Anvil to me. The effects have been more unique. I can't speak on strength until I do more Anvil sized doses with it, but it feels like it provides a remarkably thorough and long lasting stone with less sleepyness and impairment. I can see why many people haven't picked up their Anvils again!

 

[Duba]

Also, this is weird, but it almost seems like there's something liquid in the stem / mouthpiece area.

I don't know if ou're talking about this reclaim which comes under the wpa. I find it very clear, clean, liquid and tasty (although it's not my habit to consume it, but here I just scoop it up with my finger before licking it).

 

[Texus]

Well I like to think of myself as a passionate vape enthusiast and upstanding member of this community, long before being a manufacturer of "ultra fine boutique vapor products for the discerning and obsessive connoisseur who simply demands the best" ™

Enjoy that Tornado in good health and heart friend,
'cause it looks like there's a "storm-a-brewin"

[insert PHASE3 theme music / lead guitar riffs]

All good, friend. Just wanted to make sure all the cards are on the table. And your great reputation is one of those cards too.

But what I came here to post was my current altar to the Tornado. Which coincidentally shows why we badly need a 10mm WPA. Glass is Laceface

https://imgur.com/a/l1WH24F

 

[Orvaxxx]

Anyone know when the Tornado will be available for sale again, I was too late the last time.

 

[AndyO]

I've had it 24 hours now. I resolved the overcooking by going back to basics and heating higher up the cap, then giving the atomizer a quick blast, and I'm getting decent flavour, but outrageous effects. (The vapor trail from the lid is also a very effective visual indicator of when it's about to click, which helps now that I have some experience with it.)

It's hard to describe it, but the atomizer is doing something. I said previously it's simultaneously the thickest, thinnest vapor I've ever experienced. And I'm friggen wrecked man, I rarely ever get this messy off flower, and I've used almost half as much today as I normally would.

If you're on the fence, or if you're unsure cos of the Forge issue, don't worry about the need to use a torch, just buy it. This thing is wild.

 

[simba]

Given the reviews I think I'm going to drop once I've got money. Hopefully stock will be more available by that time

 

[AndyO]

I should note my one minor critique - and it is minor, cos at least 80% of my Anvil use has been through a bong, I don't imagine this being different - but the Tornado is so close to being modular with either the native Anvil stem or the adapter part of the USA (as opposed to the condenser part.)

It's so damn close, it feels like it should've been a consideration, and the minor adjustments should've been made.