Yeah, urushi finish is really nice, this is one of my favourite urushi applications: Fostex TH900I did explore a few retractable and covered stem designs earlier on... but in the end the case won out as being all-around more practical and simple. I'm more and more leaning towards minimalism in my designs... and this Toad is the ultimate expression of that so far. Plus, the less moving parts, the less that can go wrong.
There are forest fires far north of us, but somehow the smoke has made its way down here. Not to worry, as our area has been very rainy lately, but the daylight is coming through the orange sky making the daytime look like a never ending sunset. It's actually pretty damn cool!
I couldn't pass up the opportunity to take a few golden shots in the window.
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If you look closely here you can see some subtle horizontal lines inside the paper. These lines are an artifact of the traditional washi making process. Pretty neat!
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@Copacetic I did wonder about a leather shell for this... but making it seamless seemed rather difficult. Also, the bottom lip needs to be quite ridgid, I was afraid that the leather would be too flexible. I do think it would look cool however, and age verrryy nicely. So maybe one day! This design leaves a lot of areas open to explore down the road.
I also tried a wrapped wood veneer shell, but ultimately didn't like the wood on wood look.
My ultimate shell would be made from washi with a urushi lacquer finish *drool*.
hahaha, I had a good laugh over that jockeying comment.
I figured the one-off nature of my sleeve, and the absence of any other problematic sleeves must mean that it's just the first sleeve that was sticky. It's weird that it still happened after a complete change of sleeve, so I too think it might be a skin chemistry thing.@Copacetic , Those were some very interesting videos, thanks for sharing! I've seen that Urushi video before, very inspiring work!!
I've spent too damn long digging this washi-hole to turn back now! haha. But I could see a one-off leather sleeve at some point for sure!
That's actually alarming about your sleeve. The first sleeves stickyness was undoubtedly some sort of weird interaction between the one-off blend of products and techniques I used to create your specific sleeve.... but the second sleeve should have been totally fine, as I remember using only the tried and tested recipe on a brand new sleeve.
I have read that some people use a very fine powder (like talc), to lightly powder the surface of furniture painted with acrylic to take away tackyness. Maybe a black powder like soot would work on your sleeve?
The type of acrylic I used shouldn't dry tacky like some cheaper acrylic paints can.
I was curious, so I dug out the sleeve samples I made alongside painting your second sleeve, and gave em' a good handling. It's hot and muggy here.. so probably worst case scenario. No tackyness at all thankfully... but that still leaves it a mystery.
I've been handling this newest toad a bunch to test the wear.. so far nothing to note. I have Toad samples that are almost a year old now, using the same acrylic/washi, and zero degradation or tackyness. hmm.
It could be so,ething that only happens with handling, or keeping it in an airtight container, or even the specific chemistry of some people sweat.
I recently became aware of an issue with a Nomad kept in a faux leather case. It's likely that the faux leather was slowly off-gassing ammonia, causing the bronze on the Nomad to quickly oxidize a greenish-blue.
An interesting tangent:
Cellulose Acetate Butyrate is used for 'industructable' screwdriver tool handles. When new they are more durable than wood, and look cool too!.... But after a while people found out that if you keep them in a sealed box, they would deteriorate and smell like vomit. Some modern rubber tool handles also seem to break down if your hands are oily.
If you ever want to re-do the sleeve, send it in and I'll try a new recipe!
Your experience has really got me thinking more on the starch paste. I would hate to find out that acrylic reacts to some peoples sweat negatively...or something odd like that. I much prefer when I can use materials with a longer history of use.
It could be that the starch adhesive is over-all less durable... but compensates for that because of it's superior feel and aging characteristics.
It's all very complicated. But bad interactions seem less likely when I think about natural materials, they just seem more forgiving.
As far as wear goes, I was always fighting between look/feel and durability on the Nomad 1 sleeves. What looks and feels the best to my eyes, always wore the quickest. So you gutta strike a balance.
This lead to a total re-imagining of the painting technique for the toads, which eliminates top layers of paint entirely.
Where'd you guys see the kayak??
How’s the price look compared to your flagship nomad?
I think that there are plenty of great vapes in that range anyhow... and I'd rather just put out what I am most excited about, rather than try to reach some arbitrary price point. I only mention that because I feel self-imposed pressure to make a budget friendly design.... Why? I'm not too sure... but I think it's because I'm fairly frugal in my own life... so if I didn't make vapes It would likely be pretty painful to pay $300 for one.
You're not only buying a vape, but a piece of art.I had hoped the Toad would be a bit lower priced so it would be more accessible to more people, but I don’t want to see you putting out work you’re not happy with or not being well compensated for your time. If that’s the price you need to charge for it I’m happy to pay it.
Maybe you’ll find a way of making something cheaper someday, but it’s not easy to take as much care as you do and sustainably hit a low price point. I can find the low price elsewhere, but there aren’t many people offering anything close to what you do, so the right answer is obvious to me!
I think a big part of what makes the Nomad/Toad exciting is that you're single-handedly employing a variety of art-intensive, skill-intensive techniques at a high level to create an object of both beauty and function. If you price in the time spent acquiring those skills and developing your ideas, the Nomad doesn't feel too expensive at all (not that it didn't lay a hurt on my wallet).I think that there are plenty of great vapes in that range anyhow... and I'd rather just put out what I am most excited about, rather than try to reach some arbitrary price point. I only mention that because I feel self-imposed pressure to make a budget friendly design.