The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie

hazyy1

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Cannot believe I waited basically a month and a half before putting this through glass!!

Essentially cleared a full .15g bowl in one hit 👊 zirc balls, wand at 335c til timeout.

Kept looking at another recently released butane vape, but I’m just gonna put my head in the sand for the foreseeable. Don’t need it, cause the tempest just filled every niche for me.

Sorry for fangirling, here’s my first bowl through glass (I’m going outside for the exhale, sorry!)

How open is the airport?
 
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kegstandman420

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Hi fam, long time not posting!! I've been a few years on that concentrates diet, but back to enjoy vaping flowers again :)

I'm in absolute love with my Tempest, I've had it for 48 hours and have been testing it non-stop. Already found the sweet spot for even extractions and tested a few modes, this thing for sure is amazing.

Something I've realized and I wonder if it's happening to everyone with a black unit. Is it normal for the colored bit of the tip that gets into the wand to fade the color a bit? On mine looks kinda faded now. Not a big deal for me, I think it may be normal because of the temp changes, but wanted to check here. There must be a scientific explanation :science:

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Anyway, thanks for this amazing device @Brenyo, this is my dreamed vape. Couldn't be happier with it, and there is still of testing ahead :freak:
my purple has discoloration on it also. This picture was taken roughly 4 month ago. I use it everyday since February, 90%wand. Its like right where the top sits in the adapter.
 

TigoleBitties

Big and Bouncy
The big advantage of the tempest is that you can reheat without any waiting just looking at the VI. Try reheating it right away and stop when the VI hits MKII
I'd like to throw something out here with regards to re-heating the Tempest head on a stem (not WPA), and specifically with the Wand. I don't own a Tempest but have a Stunner. The Tempest has far more airflow options and is much more refined but their heaters are essentially the same - a ZrO2 ball vape encased in metal with an air gap above the bowl.

The Stunner is so basic that it has no click disks and certainly nothing as sophisticated as a visual indicator. I have been using it with the Wand without combusting and I wonder if this will work for the Tempest too?

It's easy to heat stuff from cold because you can use the Wand as a timer but once the bowl and cap are hot, we all know you can't use the same timings or you'll risk combusting. What I did with the Stunner for re-heats is I would just heat it with the Wand freehand while it was up to my mouth and test for vapor. Like re-lighting the tip of a cigar. Every 5s or so I would take a small sip and see if vapor was flowing. Once I got some, I could usually keep heating 1-3s more if I wanted and then just take the Wand away and keep puffing.

Now of course, you can only do this with the Wand and a stem but it worked for me with the Stunner so maybe it could work for the Tempest. 🤷‍♂️:2c:
 
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cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
I'd like to throw something out here with regards to re-heating the Tempest head on a stem (not WPA), and specifically with the Wand. I don't own a Tempest but have a Stunner. The Tempest has far more airflow options and is much more refined but their heaters are essentially the same - a ZrO2 ball vape encased in metal with an air gap above the bowl.

The Stunner is so basic that it has no click disks and certainly nothing as sophisticated as a visual indicator. I have been using it with the Wand without combusting and I wonder if this will work for the Tempest too?

It's easy to heat stuff from cold because you can use the Wand as a timer but once the bowl and cap are hot, we all know you can't use the same timings or you'll risk combusting. What I did with the Stunner for re-heats is I would just heat it with the Wand freehand while it was up to my mouth and test for vapor. Like re-lighting the tip of a cigar. Every 5s or so I would take a small sip and see if vapor was flowing. Once I got some, I could usually keep heating 1-3s more if I wanted and then just take the Wand away and keep puffing.

Now of course, you can only do this with the Wand and a stem but it worked for me with the Stunner so maybe it could work for the Tempest. 🤷‍♂️:2c:
Actually, I do something similar on a water piece. The difference is that, rather than waiting for the taste of vapor, I'm watching for the visual of vapor coming through the wpa. Very simple and effective.
 

Mndeadhead

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I have dialed back to 24. For me, anything hotter and it got too hot and ended up combusting. I’m holding for 1-2 seconds on opposite sides, not spinning. I pull it somewhere between 1.5 and the two bar mark, and in a perfect world, just before the first click, then I let it ride to the second click before I start hitting. Haven’t combusted since ding it that way, and have a deep, deep roast. The closer I get to that two bar mark before I stop, the closer to combustion i come.m

has anyone who owns camouflet inductor tried with the tempest? if so, what was your experience?
It’s the only thing I’ve used on it. I’m parked on 24. I pull just a little after the first hash, right before the first click, and I wait until the second click to hit. Deep dark roast at the end.
 
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humbuckers

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Hi fam, long time not posting!! I've been a few years on that concentrates diet, but back to enjoy vaping flowers again :)

I'm in absolute love with my Tempest, I've had it for 48 hours and have been testing it non-stop. Already found the sweet spot for even extractions and tested a few modes, this thing for sure is amazing.

Something I've realized and I wonder if it's happening to everyone with a black unit. Is it normal for the colored bit of the tip that gets into the wand to fade the color a bit? On mine looks kinda faded now. Not a big deal for me, I think it may be normal because of the temp changes, but wanted to check here. There must be a scientific explanation :science:

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Anyway, thanks for this amazing device @Brenyo, this is my dreamed vape. Couldn't be happier with it, and there is still of testing ahead :freak:
My blue cap is heavily faded -dropped it hot right out of the wand on to a pillow. Had to throw into the flames of Orodruin to clean. Do not recommend. Smooth sailing now though
 

GnarlyVandal

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General Disaster

Of cabbages and Kings.
No idea what that means but that's what the website says!
PVD = Physical Vapour Deposition - essentially a coating in the form of vapour is deposited on the surface of the metal.
DLC = Diamond Like Coating - essentially a coating of carbon atoms arranged in a structure similar to diamond to provide a very hard wearing coating. There are a number of types with different properties.
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
Cheers!
I have the FC mod which I have been using lately as my daily water piece, and it is very similar in design to this. Did that originally come with a longer downstem or was it always only going about half the depth in the piece? I find with the longer down stem I can use less water and still get great cooling along with more space for vapor.
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BushRanger

Hit It & Quit It
@cybrguy originally it comes with 18cm stem, but I use it with 15cm ones because I like it slightly shorter.
In the video, I used 12cm one, which I like with Tempest to keep it small. That stem is from another smaller bubbler which I also have.
 
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cybrguy

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I particularly like the ability to swap out the mouthpieces to get further away or closer to the can. When I'm doing what I described above, using the wand on a Tempest already on my glass for a reheat, a longer mouthpiece like above gives me a better view to determine the level of vaporization I'm getting.
 
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AndyO

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I'm glad I didn't do my block with the Tempest when I initially had some issues, and when it wasn't immediately what I thought/hoped it would be. It was so close to being shelved or sold.

I don't think it's going to be the one-hitter through a water pipe that I wanted/expected, and its release at about the same time as the Tornado probably solidifies that.

But after figuring out my hardware issues and playing with it on the zircs for about 10 days or so, I put the SS balls in yesterday and have been using it pretty hard ever since. I've more or less settled on their "wand controller temp 1" instructions in the manual, which makes for a slow heat up, but a really flavourful draw, and a long draw/heated period. I'll try the SiC balls at some stage, but the SS balls are going to take some beating I think.
 

Postlark

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I was curious if anybody else's VI is starting to move faster after breaking in the head after a little while? On hit #87 I also noticed the first click isn't anywhere nearly as loud as it used to be, which caused me to to think the 2nd click was the 1st click. I ended up taking it to the 3rd notch. Avoided combustion when I saw vapor billowing out of the head by utizling the reload.

I've only taken 3 hits since. But I've noticed each time the VI is riding through the slot faster than the handful of previous hits, the 1st click is kind of faint and not completely in sync when the VI hits the 1st notch and it seems to not take as much time in between clicks.

Something that may be noted is I went from using the wand at about 550-600f on a fresh pair of cells to setting the wand at 800°F and pulling the Tempest out upon hearing the 2nd click I'd say maybe 20 hits or so ago. I appreciate any input
I can confirm this. I remember when everything was new, I would set the wand at 270c. Now it is normally around 300c and upping it to 310 when the battery is lower. Also I remember it would time out 5 seconds after the big click but now it clicks right after time out on the wand.
 
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kokolokokolokon

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has anyone who owns camouflet inductor tried with the tempest? if so, what was your experience?
I’m trying it this days. I would say it is overpower for the tempest. If you want to avoid red glowing layer you need to use it with pulses, pressiong and releasing the button
If you uses pulses then it works great, but a little tricky.

Something I've realized and I wonder if it's happening to everyone with a black unit. Is it normal for the colored bit of the tip that gets into the wand to fade the color a bit? On mine looks kinda faded now. Not a big deal for me, I think it may be normal because of the temp changes, but wanted to check here. There must be a scientific explanation :science:

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I've had a black tempest for almost a year. A much softer fade on mine. And, if I do a deep cleaning, the fades goes away, like it is a dirt layer
 

GnarlyVandal

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How open is the airport?
So I was definitely high when responding to you and gave you my tempest stem airflow and not the vong airflow, it was wide open for feathering. Now I’ve had a full bowls I just leave it closed through glass.
 
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I was curious if anybody else's VI is starting to move faster after breaking in the head after a little while? On hit #87 I also noticed the first click isn't anywhere nearly as loud as it used to be, which caused me to to think the 2nd click was the 1st click. I ended up taking it to the 3rd notch. Avoided combustion when I saw vapor billowing out of the head by utizling the reload.

I've only taken 3 hits since. But I've noticed each time the VI is riding through the slot faster than the handful of previous hits, the 1st click is kind of faint and not completely in sync when the VI hits the 1st notch and it seems to not take as much time in between clicks.

Something that may be noted is I went from using the wand at about 550-600f on a fresh pair of cells to setting the wand at 800°F and pulling the Tempest out upon hearing the 2nd click I'd say maybe 20 hits or so ago. I appreciate any input
Same here, I'm around hit #60 or so and we have the same experience, including the combustion avoidance like that :D

VI is a bit smoother and faster than it was, click discs click differently as you said.

We will see in a few months/years, I hope everything holds up and I can continue to rely on both indicators
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
We will see in a few months/years, I hope everything holds up and I can continue to rely on both indicators
I imagine as long as you use the clicks and the VI as guides or reference points rather than hard and fast decision points, even a slowly changing Vi or clicks should work for a long long time.
 

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Cloudy...
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What are your favorite balls to use? I have some Rubies on the way, Zirconia seems to be working really well so far and Im quite curious about SiC, but search engine doesn't like 3 letters words :disgust:
 

mike butta

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I ordered a titanium Tempest and initially didn't care for the feel of the heat shield so I immediately ordered a wood sleeve. I notice the wood sleeve doesn't have the little indentions on the bottom to kind of lock into the bowl.
 
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akp55

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I ordered a titanium Tempest and initially didn't care for the feel of the heat shield so I immediately ordered a wood sleeve. I notice the wood sleeve doesn't have the little indentions on the bottom to kind of lock into the bowl.
it has threads on the inside that i think help serve the same purpose
 
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