The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie
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I've been able to get a bit more consistancy since following advice here and pushing the adapter up in the wand. Now it is much harder to see the visual indicator, but it is still possilble.
I think I like the results I get with the torch more, but it also just takes so much energy to get this thing up to temp.
Mastering the draw speed and feathering the carb are both important here.
I do think this device would be much more user friendly with omnivap style air control. The way the omni allows you to fine tune exactly the ratio of cool air intake and then just leave it in place is unparalleled. If I could buy a replacement condensor that did the same thing for the tempest I would.
I think I like the results I get with the torch more, but it also just takes so much energy to get this thing up to temp.
Mastering the draw speed and feathering the carb are both important here.
I do think this device would be much more user friendly with omnivap style air control. The way the omni allows you to fine tune exactly the ratio of cool air intake and then just leave it in place is unparalleled. If I could buy a replacement condensor that did the same thing for the tempest I would.
delta hotel
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Mine originally fit like this and it was driving my CRAZY, a brand new vape with a weird little crooked wobble. A few weeks later and whatever was causing it is gone, it sits flat and flush. I may have had a little burr in the lining.I like the wooden sleeve, but no matter what I do the bowl sits slightly crooked which bothers me. I ended going back to the titanium stem and shield.
AndyO
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I like the wooden sleeve, but no matter what I do the bowl sits slightly crooked which bothers me. I ended going back to the titanium stem and shield.
Get in touch with @Brenyo - you have the burr issue, he has video instructions for removing it. A bunch of them - including mine - came with the burr that stops the head sitting on it properly, which is a bummer, but it's super easy to fix.
Maybe not Omni like perfection….. but doable.
This is how I use my Tempest. Air intake open, but slightly to one side. Leave air intake open for the first 2 long slowish DTL pulls, and feather the clean-up hit.
Musikchen
Member
You might like the revolve cooling unit. It has a additional slot beside the bigger round hole to finetune the air intake.
I bet you can find one to trade easily.
kokolokokolokon
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Photonic
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Thank you for the insight! I'll definitely look to find a burr and fix it.
Thank you for the insight! I'll definitely look to find a burr and fix it.
Please try to deburr it like I do in the video with a metal or ceramic tweezer, around the inner edge. That’s where it usually tears up the O-ring. Then grab a Q-tip with ISO and clean the inner threading as deeply as you can, pushing the cotton into the thread. Then clean it with the dry side of the Q-tip.
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Wubba Lubba dub-dub
For me it is not crooked when I put it in, but it is so wobbly that every time after using Reload magnet to decap it, it wobbles out a bitI like the wooden sleeve, but no matter what I do the bowl sits slightly crooked which bothers me. I ended going back to the titanium stem and shield.
Doesn't happen for other tips that I put in... just the oposite, it holds them on really tight, and that for every dyna-tip I put in. Also damaged my helix tip upper o-ring a bit when I was trying it out. Trying the mentioned deburring but nothing changed (used metal tweezers) so I don't think it's that.
Kinda made my peace with it and returned to the metal stem, heh
delta hotel
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I can't seem to see a video following this link and I also initially had this issue. The head fits in the wooden stem fine now, but I definitely can tell that it looks like it's going to tear up the o-ring with repeated removals. Is there somewhere else I can find this video?
Also @Brenyo I see I can buy just the head now and I've been considering another one but I know there isn't more Tempest stock expected for awhile. Are the heads something that will be purchasable whenever or will they come and go out of stock? Trying to decide if I should wait or not!
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Wubba Lubba dub-dub
nice, works like a charm after I learned how to remove o-rings, thanks!
Could you also maybe share your thoughts on using the tempest head on a wooden sleeve with a revolve gen 1. Does it have any disadvantages you can think of, any reasons not to combine it?
Thinking of getting an additional head for different balls/config, everything seems to fit and function perfectly, I don't see the difference in performance.
The video is some pages back, search for "deburr" in this thread and you'll see a couple posts from Brenyo, one of them has a picture and a video.
also, same consideration, contemplating since morning with the head and 14-10adapter in the checkout
Photonic
Lesser-Known Lurker
Didn't find any super obvious burrs, but cleaned up the threads and it seems to be sitting much better.
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TankeyPankey
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I'm realizing I'm smoking this like a joint with some air going through the sides of my mouth, but now it has me all sorts of fucked up about how to actually hit this thing. The draw resistance seems so much more when not letting air in through the sides of your mouth.
Have you set the airflow on the cap to open?
darkstar72
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Ordered my Tempest Saturday and am getting psyched.
What are your opinions for the best cooling without glass? Does the Helix tube in the open setting cool the most? Any major flavor drawbacks? I'm planning to replace the Dynavap to lose the throat irritation. Will likely run it on the half bowl setting.
My order included the sic balls. Anyone prefer sic or boro over Zirc for smaller loads? Thanks
What are your opinions for the best cooling without glass? Does the Helix tube in the open setting cool the most? Any major flavor drawbacks? I'm planning to replace the Dynavap to lose the throat irritation. Will likely run it on the half bowl setting.
My order included the sic balls. Anyone prefer sic or boro over Zirc for smaller loads? Thanks
I_like_logs
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You don’t need glass at all. The best cooling is the tempest stem. I like using helix tube with the SCU and wide open airflow, but you’ll find your own style. My preferred balls are stainless, but I like them all for different reasons.
BushRanger
Hit It & Quit It
Upgrade beta kit installed and running. Setup finally complete!
Can't find the heart to torch it again, at least for now...
Can't find the heart to torch it again, at least for now...
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Sorry. Too stone to fix double post and I really tried! The inserting quote into message in a middle of editing just killed me.
But anyway - I must say - amazing setup!!!
But anyway - I must say - amazing setup!!!
Upgrade beta kit installed and running. Setup finally complete!
Can't find the heart to torch it again, at least for now...
BushRanger
Hit It & Quit It
Should be around 14. Can double that if you have a pair of spare batteries on you...
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
I don't usually get into these exchanges because my numbers never seem to be similar to others experience. Just as a data point for others, though, I will mention that in my case I am lucky to get more than 5 full heats from cold on a fresh set of batteries with my Wand. The Wand seems to have a wide variety of performance. If I ever see one at 75 bucks again, I may buy a second one just to see if this one has been defective its whole life.
How about leaving the USB C cable plugged in, at least while using it? For home use..
