Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

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You can have two assembled that's ok but what I'm saying is different, you would need two complete sr74x stainless parts including the bottom assembly plate.

Not the bottom adapter, these two are different.
 
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lonelyhero

the lost soul
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I think he's saying he would like to swap just the upper chamber using the same reclaim chamber contacts and bottom plate for two different uppers rods and coils

For it to work that way you would need to have one complete 74x a second upgrade kit/rod/aaf/and nut
 
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Resinberg

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I Would use both the 74 and the 74X stainless tubes each loaded with their own Coil Retaining Nut Rod and Washer
then swap those while using the same bottom contact pieces just like this if you sold the retaining nut I could do this instead one tube sits empty if I had the 2nd retaining nut I would also buy the AAF washer another rod and coils

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invisiblefriend

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I got my Herc 74 on July 18th --


I think I have the upgrade ??lol -- it does NOT have a screw on the top metal piece ? I assume this is the upgraded one ?
WORkING SUPER !!!!!!!!


wondering ???
anyone know where I can get titanium coil ? suggestions plz ? or can I purchase from w9 ?

thx 2 all !


peace
 
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Resinberg

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I got my Herc 74 on July 18th --


I think I have the upgrade ??lol -- it does NOT have a screw on the top metal piece ? I assume this is the upgraded one ?
WORkING SUPER !!!!!!!!


wondering ???
anyone know where I can get titanium coil ? suggestions plz ? or can I purchase from w9 ?

thx 2 all !


peace

you have the upgrade it sounds like

coils can be purchased through w9
http://www.w9tech.com/hercules-sr-74-titanium-coils/
 
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lonelyhero

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ok i see what your saying i'm not sure why i was thinking rod placement would be an issue but once you dialed in the placement of both rods it shouldn't be an issue to swap as long as everything stayed tight so id say it should work

id probably also set up a second tube for friends/different strains if it were possible to get all the proper peices
 

invisiblefriend

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@Resinberg thx 4 info my friend !!!!



Im actually also seeking the wire to rebuild the kiss cart --- titanium wire .. ?? anyone know any reliable source ?

I have burnt my 3rd 3.7v --- (Its embarrassing ) --- 1 of em put in her time no doubt ! the 2 others --- (I'm soo used to using my lovely core & herc74 --- I woke up n decided 4 a qwik kiss hit -- and boom 4 got to dial down to 3.7v :( 7.4 -- big hit n zzzzzzzzzz out ! :( === n i was even more angry cause I did same thing 2 weeks ago - lol ! :)

seeking a spool of wire ???
any ideas
 
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Resinberg

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ok i see what your saying i'm not sure why i was thinking rod placement would be an issue but once you dialed in the placement of both rods it shouldn't be an issue to swap as long as everything stayed tight so id say it should work

id probably also set up a second tube for friends/different strains if it were possible to get all the proper peices

exactly once you set the rod one time you will be good which you will be doing anyways when you load it with oil to begin with. It will definitely stay tight iv never had anything come loose boiling hot couldn't imagine at room temp while not in use

you could set up tubes for friends for different voltage rods maybe you want two coils in one maybe sativa indica or just convenience anyone who uses this thing heavy can benefit from having a spare tank loaded I know im bummed when im waiting for my tank and coil to soak in ISO while cleaning I usually do it over night imagine cleaning one while you can use your spare
 
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Beanporn

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Another weekend another half gram through the herc without a positive result. My herc now heats up but delivers no vapor. I quit
 
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invisiblefriend

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@beaporn my friend -- no no no giving up

I think us who had lil learning curve just lucky !

If u don't chat with G --- ill chat with u tmro my friend n get this going --
u shouldn't have to go through this -- i feel bad
@@@ I assume u have the core by now ??

if not plz have batteries at highest charge !( i still have never tried my herc with batteries)

I assume since it didn't work ----u still have the oil waiting 2 vape --- so just pull all outa reclaim 4 the day :) no waste :)

we will get it working …. respect


???? anyone know where 2 buy titanium wire ?? 4 kiss rebuild ?
thx
 
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bdmonkeyj3w

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@Beanporn it really sounds like you got a bum part. I cant imagine what cpuld be going on. I opened my herc for the first tine since i got nibbler 9to find oil EVERYWHERE. In the bottom chamber, a shit ton on the outside between the stainless and the heat shield... gonna keep an eye on who i give it to. I think the bottom chamber wasnt sealed tight.
 
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invisiblefriend

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does anyone enjoy the 3.7 rod for the herc 74 ? I would luv 2 hear experiences comparing 7.4?


also ---- anyone have any ideas on where to find titanium 2 wire for rebuild ? or recommend best avail?
thk u soooo much ! 4 kiss'z r looking for a rebuild :(
 
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SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
does anyone enjoy the 3.7 rod for the herc 74 ? I would luv 2 hear experiences comparing 7.4?


also ---- anyone have any ideas on where to find titanium 2 wire for rebuild ? or recommend best avail?
thk u soooo much ! 4 kiss'z r looking for a rebuild :(
I haven't given it that much time yet, but honestly, I didn't notice much difference on the 3.7 rod compared to the CORE with the 74 white rod turned down to about 7 volts! I just swapped rods and have gone back to the -74 white rod for my daily driver 74.

The -71 I find to be too hot, too powerful to let friends use it... Fresh batteries at 8.4V the -71 rod can get incredibly hot. The lower power of the -74 rod seems to be all I need even for shatter...
 

invisiblefriend

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I haven't given it that much time yet, but honestly, I didn't notice much difference on the 3.7 rod compared to the CORE with the 74 white rod turned down to about 7 volts! I just swapped rods and have gone back to the -74 white rod for my daily driver 74.

The -71 I find to be too hot, too powerful to let friends use it... Fresh batteries at 8.4V the -71 rod can get incredibly hot. The lower power of the -74 rod seems to be all I need even for shatter...
thank u my friend --- I never even thought of dialing down the 7.4v to 7 … interesting ? (gunna try that b4 I clean & try the 3.7 rod …) I'm interested in results .. thx 4 advice ..

any other experiences welcome :)

-- and any good wire sourcing 4 kiss carts :) ?

thank u n a gr8 day 2 all !
 
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AgentofChaos

Serial Vapist
Is it common for the Kiss carts to turn black after a week of light use? I'm sure I charred my 7.4 cart and will need to purchase a new one, but my 3.7v is fairly new and it looked burnt already. I soaked the 3.7v in warm ISO for 24 hours, and took a MFLB brush and lightly attempted to clean the black off of it. Unfortunately that did not work.
I'm wondering if I'm not filling it up enough? The instructions the unit came with make it seem as if you do not want to get any oil on the sides or bottom, but just on the coil. It takes me a long time to achieve that, and I end up using a very small amount of oil. Should I be filling the cart completely?
I'm at work now or I could provide some pictures, but the coil is pitch black and crooked slightly.

Thanks for any and all input & advice!
 
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lockie

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If the coil is pitch black, it probably means you've held the button down too long and/or didn't load the coil with enough oil. Every time I load it, I try to keep the coil fully saturated and do 2-3 second bursts usually 2 times per load.
 
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Mynameismud

Accessory Maker
Accessory Maker
does anyone enjoy the 3.7 rod for the herc 74 ? I would luv 2 hear experiences comparing 7.4?


also ---- anyone have any ideas on where to find titanium 2 wire for rebuild ? or recommend best avail?
thk u soooo much ! 4 kiss'z r looking for a rebuild :(
Yes I loved the 3.7V Hercules! That is until I got an iris...

Like @SamuraiSam mentioned the sr74 on an iris at around 7 is comparable to the black rod... With the sr71 however it's compare able to about 5.7V. Personally my favorite is the sr71 at around 6.0-6.4 V it gives you the flavor of the black rod and the performance of the white rod.

Anyway back on topic. Yes I love the black rod. Especially paired with the hammer top and shorty tube...it takes a little more priming (about 10-15 sec heat up, puff a few times and then inhale normally)
 

AgentofChaos

Serial Vapist
If the coil is pitch black, it probably means you've held the button down too long and/or didn't load the coil with enough oil. Every time I load it, I try to keep the coil fully saturated and do 2-3 second bursts usually 2 times per load.

What is the average amount of hits you get from a fully loaded cart? I think you may have hit the nail on the head, I was keeping the button pressed down for around 5 seconds while I slowly inhaled, waited a few seconds, then repeated my steps. I tried your method but never got much of a hit, if any. Also, I don't think the instructions it came with are very clear in regards to the amount of concentrate to load. I've been putting just enough to saturate the coil, but my assumption is that I need to load MUCH more.
 
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MaxVapor

The Professor
What is the average amount of hits you get from a fully loaded cart? I think you may have hit the nail on the head, I was keeping the button pressed down for around 5 seconds while I slowly inhaled, waited a few seconds, then repeated my steps. I tried your method but never got much of a hit, if any. Also, I don't think the instructions it came with are very clear in regards to the amount of concentrate to load. I've been putting just enough to saturate the coil, but my assumption is that I need to load MUCH more.

My Kiss carts turn black as well (the wick anyway). I load about .05 gram (BB sized ball) each time and probably get 6 to 8 hits. Each hit I usually press button until I start getting vapor and then I do 2-3 second pulses (on for 2 to 3 seconds then off for 2 or 3 seconds) usually 3 or 4 times until my lungs are full. After putting about a gram through I do an overnight 99% iso soak and then before use I do a "cleaning" by holding the button down until timeout twice in a row. Many will say that is a bad idea and can burn out your carts, but I have 6 (2 standard, 1 titanium, 3 globe atomizers) the standard and titanium I have had for well over a year and they work great. Note all are 3.7v. After the "cleaning" button presses most of my wick is pretty white although the edges never get white again (no heat from coil there).

I have also done some lung busting 20 second hits as seen here with the new Kiss globe and nibbler-GN bubbler...

 

lockie

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I found the method that I mentioned works best when the ti KISS carts are new but after the first few weeks, it'd probably takes 3x 3 second bursts to get the same sized hit. Sticking with 3x 2 second bursts when you first get it would be ideal so the wires don't get burnt as quickly and then adjust accordingly when you feel as if the hits aren't enough anymore.

Usually in the beginning, the wax gets all vaped up and there's nothing left over but after a while, the coil won't get heated up as quick which makes the wax just melt off the coil instead of fully getting vaped. I always reload after every hit. As to why you're not getting much of a hit, try freshly charged batteries every time. With the coil saturated, that should be enough. Adding anymore to that would just result in it melting off into the sides which isn't ideal.
IMO, the globe has better vapor production, wick absorption and since you get 2 cartridges instead of 1 for a cheaper price than the ti kiss cartridge, it's pretty much a given on what to choose.

Oh yeah, I also forgot to add, after using the globes for a while, the coil doesn't heat up as quick so I thought that it helps when you first heat up the globe cartridge, the first pull you do should be a second or two longer than the other pulls. Gently inhale until you see vapor production then stick with the 3 second max per burst. I found this method to be optimal after using a globe cartridge for a couple weeks.

Also, I've been using mainly my Persei shorty with the globes since I find that it produces better taste and longevity than with the original tube. Don't get me wrong though, when I just want to get ripped with clouds, that's the go-to.
 
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lockie,

ED421

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Does anybody know if I can soak the bottom of the KISS Globe in ISO? I mean the part that the replaceable coil screws into, not the replaceable coil itself.
 
ED421,

MaxVapor

The Professor
@lockie, I agree, the Kiss Globes are superior to the regular and even IMO the titanium Kiss carts. I do overload the carts for sure, sometimes probably close to .1 although I try to stick to smaller sometimes the pain demands more. A few things I can add, with the ceramic wick carts there are two ways they can be used. A lot of you know this, but perhaps for the benefits of others:

You can melt the oil into the wick and then vape it out of the wick, or you can vape it directly off the coil. To accomplish the former I will put a largish dab of shatter onto the coil. This will work with other consistencies of wax as well, but they all have different characteristics. The shatter seems to stay together better (less reactive to heat?) and once in the coil you can gently coax the vapor out of it. To melt the oil into the wick (works best with a freshly cleaned wick) I will do half second button presses until it has liquified and mostly melted in. Sometimes I am overzealous and load too much in which case it won't all melt in. When hitting short coolish hits are the order of the day.

On the other hand sometimes you want to get hit hard. Vaping off the coil will generate a lot of vapor fast. Here I load less (half as much probably) and try to use a waxier product but this method is very forgiving so any concentrate will work. Once loaded go to town on the button inhaling vigorously. I try not to hit it more than 6 to 8 seconds so that it doesn't burn and depending on hot it seems to be I will pulse the button to lower the temp. Note to self: Find that Iris top that went missing and try this at 4.2v...

@AgentofChaos Hope this helps get you off the ground.
 
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