Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

[OF]

I did the same thing OF posted when my omicron cart started hitting lighter than it should have.
It worked for me.
I held the cart so that the top of my thumb was pretty much half way up the cart, and just waved my torch all around the top half until it felt warm.
I didn't feel the concentrate drop down the cart, but it definitely got the vapor flowing again.

In thinking a bit on this topic ('didn't feel the concentrate drop down') it occurs to me there's a couple of factors in play. First, it's not a huge effect you have to note that the case is slowly going up in temperature after you shift the heat to the top of the cart then suddenly picks up that rate of rise, it doesn't suddenly get a lot hotter. And the puff of trapped vapor at the same time is also a clue. Secondly, in a remelt situation like above there might not be much material (therefore heat) involved.

Some concentrates seem to 'stick to the walls' more than others. A favorite CO2 wax of mine seems to have close to 250 mg still left when it stops feeding well. I just add another gram (or a bit less) and keep going rather than fight it.

OF

 

[havealight101]

Please send me the carts. I will pay for the shipment with extra cartridges sent back to you.


I want to see this cart, also in the box include a note that Says G wanted these to tear apart because of the taste, and include your email and contact info if we need to talk to you over the phone or email.

Let me look at this personally.

Thanks, pull a ticket at d9v then?

Yes please also include in the ticket this conversation.

Ticket has been placed. Thanks for the response.

 

[havealight101]

OF, you are very helpful around here for anyone, even the questions/problems that are asked a lot. Your a good guy for spending time that you don't have to, to help people you don't know....
Your appreciated around here.

 

[druminfected]

Mouthpieces aren't the problem... Ok, so my 2 carts that came with my Persei, have that same nasty taste that I encountered in some 2.4 ohm carts I ordered from PV 1 month ago. 1 cart did die after a dozen pulls or so(probably my fault, but never held the button long). I'm not worried about a couple carts, but I would like to know what is that taste?(silica wick, oil, extra sealant?) It can't be healthy... And if you never got your hands on some of the carts, I can send a couple clean ones I have been holding onto for that purpose. I am extremely happy with my Persei, a 5 second 4 ohm single 7.4 volt rip almost puts me down.

Please send me the carts. I will pay for the shipment with extra cartridges sent back to you.


I want to see this cart, also in the box include a note that Says G wanted these to tear apart because of the taste, and include your email and contact info if we need to talk to you over the phone or email.

Let me look at this personally.

I've had this same issue from some carts I bought from D9V, and explained this same issue via a trouble ticket and was told to send remaining cartridges to an address for replacements. I sent 4 unused ones back a couple weeks ago so you could check them out yourself and also paid for shipping, but haven't received nothing back yet. sorry this kinda pertains to 2.4 carts for omicron, but since we were on the topic I thought I would address as well.

I have a tracking number for the package if you like as well, It says it was delivered Feb 23rd.
-Druminfected

 

[havealight101]

Mouthpieces aren't the problem... Ok, so my 2 carts that came with my Persei, have that same nasty taste that I encountered in some 2.4 ohm carts I ordered from PV 1 month ago. 1 cart did die after a dozen pulls or so(probably my fault, but never held the button long). I'm not worried about a couple carts, but I would like to know what is that taste?(silica wick, oil, extra sealant?) It can't be healthy... And if you never got your hands on some of the carts, I can send a couple clean ones I have been holding onto for that purpose. I am extremely happy with my Persei, a 5 second 4 ohm single 7.4 volt rip almost puts me down.

Please send me the carts. I will pay for the shipment with extra cartridges sent back to you.


I want to see this cart, also in the box include a note that Says G wanted these to tear apart because of the taste, and include your email and contact info if we need to talk to you over the phone or email.

Let me look at this personally.

I've had this same issue from syeome carts I bought from D9V, and explained this same issue via a trouble ticket and was told to send remaining cartridges to an address for replacements. I sent 4 unused ones back a couple weeks ago so you could check them out yourself and also paid for shipping, but haven't received nothing back yet. sorry this kinda pertains to 2.4 carts for omicron, but since we were on the topic I thought I would address as well.

-Druminfected

Maybe they got misplaced? THC, if u still have his, I would rather throw mine away, then send them in. But if they are needed, that's what there here for. I'm not worried about replacement carts because PV took care of that right away(thanks PV), but Druminfected deserves to be compensated for shur.

 

[OF]

OF, you are very helpful around here for anyone, even the questions/problems that are asked a lot. Your a good guy for spending time that you don't have to, to help people you don't know....
Your appreciated around here.

Wow! What a head rush, thanks very much!

As I've said before, I'm happy to help when I can.....over the years a lot of kind folks have helped me out, there's a serious karmic debt there. It feels even better when it's noticed.

I owe you.....say, why don't you just take ten bucks out of petty cash? Pick out something nice for the wife on the way home.......

OF

 

[havealight101]

These forums really help the "learning curve period" of vaporizers. I remember my mflb had a good little period that probably could have cut in half if I was apart of these forums back then(600+ mflb pages... Holy cow). Keep it up community. Sry ill be done going off topic.

 

[Twanbiz]

Hi,

I did not own the Omnicron so bear with me. I got the package on Friday, opened it yesterday. The instructions were easy to follow and in a short time I had my oil into the cartridge. I bought the standard package so I was using the two trustfire 18350 batteries, with the 4.0 Ohm cart. I got about 20 or so hits and then put it down. I picked it up in a few hours and took one hit, and got great vapor. The next second I tried to push the button there was no more vapor. I never held the button for more then 3 seconds, one hit it worked the next it was cold. Pretty disappointing. As for the flavor, I was using some real good concentrate that tastes great on a nail or skillet but all I was getting was a metallic taste out of the Persei. I reclaimed the rest of the oil in my dead cart and did a nice dab. For the people that owned an Omnicron does the vapor always taste metallic? The nail or skillet tastes much better. Also only getting about 25 hits before the cart was fried was not good either.

 

[druminfected]

Hi,

I did not own the Omnicron so bear with me. I got the package on Friday, opened it yesterday. The instructions were easy to follow and in a short time I had my oil into the cartridge. I bought the standard package so I was using the two trustfire 18350 batteries, with the 4.0 Ohm cart. I got about 20 or so hits and then put it down. I picked it up in a few hours and took one hit, and got great vapor. The next second I tried to push the button there was no more vapor. I never held the button for more then 3 seconds, one hit it worked the next it was cold. Pretty disappointing. As for the flavor, I was using some real good concentrate that tastes great on a nail or skillet but all I was getting was a metallic taste out of the Persei. I reclaimed the rest of the oil in my dead cart and did a nice dab. For the people that owned an Omnicron does the vapor always taste metallic? The nail or skillet tastes much better. Also only getting about 25 hits before the cart was fried was not good either.

Did you put at least .5g of oil in your cart? If so I don't think all of the oil went down the cartridge, and you vaped up what was on the bottom. I suggest you hit your cartridge up but not the bottom 1/4 of the cart.

As for the metallic taste, the omicron cartridge that came with my omicron tasted just like it was on a skillet/nail , but the 5 pack I ordered, one had a metallic taste to it so I had to reclaim the oil. I opened up other one and same taste, so I sent them back to be checked out. I got these carts late dec.

 

[havealight101]

Hi,

I did not own the Omnicron so bear with me. I got the package on Friday, opened it yesterday. The instructions were easy to follow and in a short time I had my oil into the cartridge. I bought the standard package so I was using the two trustfire 18350 batteries, with the 4.0 Ohm cart. I got about 20 or so hits and then put it down. I picked it up in a few hours and took one hit, and got great vapor. The next second I tried to push the button there was no more vapor. I never held the button for more then 3 seconds, one hit it worked the next it was cold. Pretty disappointing. As for the flavor, I was using some real good concentrate that tastes great on a nail or skillet but all I was getting was a metallic taste out of the Persei. I reclaimed the rest of the oil in my dead cart and did a nice dab. For the people that owned an Omnicron does the vapor always taste metallic? The nail or skillet tastes much better. Also only getting about 25 hits before the cart was fried was not good either.

DubC had a good point last night... He said to prime the 4 ohms at 3.7 volts instead of 7.4. This way, its not getting crazy hot before its fully primed. With out being fully primed and on 7.4 your heaters are getting very hot. It's kind of like running a car out of coolant...engine will burn out eventually.
Also, look back a page, OF posted about careful heat to the top half of cart to get the air pockets out. The taste should be beautiful, I've never dabbed, but it should taste like it. I think the taste issue should be figured out soon. If the bad taste doesn't go away soon(5/10 hits), from my experience, it won't go away, and probably wouldn't continue use.

 

[JoeKickass]

Hi,

I did not own the Omnicron so bear with me. I got the package on Friday, opened it yesterday.

Well there's yer problem!


But seriously, going straight to 7.4v is asking for trouble and the weird tasting carts have been reported several times before, just ask for new ones.

 

[havealight101]

Hi,

I did not own the Omnicron so bear with me. I got the package on Friday, opened it yesterday. The instructions were easy to follow and in a short time I had my oil into the cartridge. I bought the standard package so I was using the two trustfire 18350 batteries, with the 4.0 Ohm cart. I got about 20 or so hits and then put it down. I picked it up in a few hours and took one hit, and got great vapor. The next second I tried to push the button there was no more vapor. I never held the button for more then 3 seconds, one hit it worked the next it was cold. Pretty disappointing. As for the flavor, I was using some real good concentrate that tastes great on a nail or skillet but all I was getting was a metallic taste out of the Persei. I reclaimed the rest of the oil in my dead cart and did a nice dab. For the people that owned an Omnicron does the vapor always taste metallic? The nail or skillet tastes much better. Also only getting about 25 hits before the cart was fried was not good either.

Does the cart in question get hot at the base still? If not its fried, if so then it should be fine, just give the top half (or so) some heat. When I do it, I hold the bottom 1/2" with bare fingers, so that you dont get the bottom 1/4" hot(its where the seals are).

 

[Twanbiz]

Hi,

I guess I am confused. With the starter package all I got was the 4.0 OHM carts, the 18350 batteries and an 18650 battery. From reading the instructions I got it says I can only use the 18350 batteries with the 4.0 OHM cart, it says I would need a 2.0 OHM cart with the 18650. So you guys are saying that I should have bought a 2.0 OHM cart so that I could have used the 18650 battery, or I needed something else that was not offered in the starter package? From the guide and what I received in the starter package I set it up according to picture 1C, since I did not have any other batteries. Also as for priming, from the instructions it says you only need to prime it if you "do not hear or feel movement" when you breathe in after filling the cart. I had no issues with airflow, so I did not prime it. As I said it was creating vapor without issue at the start.

 

[kingcrimson]

Twan, i had the same issue last night. Hitting the top of my cart with a little heat to make sure the oil was in the right place did the trick. You should prime the 4ohm carts on the 3.7v battery, even though the cart chart says its red. If you prime wrong with the 7.4v batts its apparently very easy to burn out a cart. Ive gone through two so far. Reclaiming and refilling as we speak.

 

[Twanbiz]

Hmm well maybe we need some updated instructions? I will probably wait until we hear more about the metallic carts as well. Thanks for the tips everyone. Also, for "burning out" a cart while priming, were you able to create vapor before the cart was fried? As I said I was getting vapor fine and then it just stopped all of a sudden, so would this still have to do with priming?

 

[igot5onit]

got my persei on friday. it's everything i expected although my double cart top will not work out of the box. i also am getting metallic plasticy taste from the 4ohm carts and have used each at least 10 times. not sure if i should keep going with them or discontinue.

other than those gripes, it's a great unit.

 

[JoeKickass]

got my persei on friday. it's everything i expected although my double cart top will not work out of the box. i also am getting metallic plasticy taste from the 4ohm carts and have used each at least 10 times. not sure if i should keep going with them or discontinue.

other than those gripes, it's a great unit.

What's wrong with the double top unit? Or do you mean you just don't have the drip tips to make them fit side-by-side?

 

[igot5onit]

i attempted to use the double top and when i hit the button, nothing happens. single top works just fine.

ticket submitted via D9V

 

[havealight101]

Hmm well maybe we need some updated instructions? I will probably wait until we hear more about the metallic carts as well. Thanks for the tips everyone. Also, for "burning out" a cart while priming, were you able to create vapor before the cart was fried? As I said I was getting vapor fine and then it just stopped all of a sudden, so would this still have to do with priming?

You can use the 4ohm cart with the 18650. It runs at 3.7 volts instead of 7.4. The idea(I think) behind the chart saying they won't work at that voltage, is that there is alot less watts at your heaters, there for they heat up slower(witch is good for priming), probably put out less vapor than the omicron with a 2.4 ohm cart. If your cart is fully fried after 20 hits, its either just to hot before the oil soaks up, and weakens your heater, or Manu. Defect. The last thing though, check your cart, hold the button a little while and see if it gets hit at all. If it gets hot, its fine, you probably had some oil make it down, but the rest maybe stuck up top with a air pocket. Gentle heat will fix it. Good luck.

 

[havealight101]

i attempted to use the double top and when i hit the button, nothing happens. single top works just fine.

ticket submitted via D9V

Probably a bad top. They'll take care of ya. Double top is to much for me, I stick with 1.

 

[Darb]

Any new videos of this thing in action?

 

[havealight101]

got my persei on friday. it's everything i expected although my double cart top will not work out of the box. i also am getting metallic plasticy taste from the 4ohm carts and have used each at least 10 times. not sure if i should keep going with them or discontinue.

other than those gripes, it's a great unit.

What's wrong with the double top unit? Or do you mean you just don't have the drip tips to make them fit side-by-side?

Joe, what drip tips you speak of? Ecig drips?

 

[JoeKickass]

Yeah, any 510 size one will fit just not super securely.

I love this one: http://www.shopcoppercreek.com/Vase-Drip-Tip_p_161.html

Gives it a great weight/balance!

EDIT: For the double persei you want slimmer ones though like this: http://www.e-smokeytreats.com/Alumi...utm_source=google-shopping&utm_medium=organic

 

[havealight101]

Thanks, that vase one is sweet.

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

Guys the regular drop tips will make contact with the bridge and creat suction, the ones that come with the Persei and omi v2 are custom sized.