Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

Resinberg

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did you look into your lower chamber for the first gram?
actually ya I have thats the first place I looked and its clean as can be no leaks
all I can think is maybe by the time I was really vaping off it after soaking my coil initially my batteries were to low to give me a good rip I do have the IMR batteries tho so idk

also seemed like it took a while for the Hercules to get warm once it did it worked better but I would get absolutely nothing while it was cold to the touch from the outside of the cartridge

I can tell its working I just need to learn the technique for this beast
 
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Sleepin in CA

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actually ya I have thats the first place I looked and its clean as can be no leaks
all I can think is maybe by the time I was really vaping off it after soaking my coil initially my batteries were to low to give me a good rip I do have the IMR batteries tho so idk

also seemed like it took a while for the Hercules to get warm once it did it worked better but I would get absolutely nothing while it was cold to the touch from the outside of the cartridge

I can tell its working I just need to learn the technique for this beast
To be specific you need "AW" (Andy Wong) imr batteries.....not the stock ones.
 

Resinberg

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yes sorry I have the aw imr high drain batteries little red ones upgraded from vapor warehouse @Sleepin in CA


so does the ceramic rod have to be flush with the top of the ti coil or is it ok if it sticks over a little bit
 

jambandphan03

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If memory serves, the Bender uses a 18mm connection for the mouthpiece, correct? If so, this should be an interesting combo...I suspended a screen at the bottom of the glass reducer to keep herbs out. Just messing around passing time while I wait for this trade to happen. :popcorn:

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druminfected

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Got the sr-74 upgrade for my sr-71 and was wondering if I need to upgrade the coils too? Using the ones that came with my sr-71.

Also do we still need to cut the coils or leave them as is? I remember before it was advised to cut your coils 60/40 for different types of concentrates, do we need to do this to the coils that are out now?
 
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halibutt

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Does anyone have a copy of the SR-74 instructions or a link you can post? The link on the w9tech site doesn't work for the SR-74, the link takes me back to the main page. If I go to their main page, click the link for "Instructions", then under cartridges select the manual for SR-74, the link brings me to their home page...Thanks, Hal
 
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Does anyone have a copy of the SR-74 instructions or a link you can post? The link on the w9tech site doesn't work for the SR-74, the link takes me back to the main page. If I go to their main page, click the link for "Instructions", then under cartridges select the manual for SR-74, the link brings me to their home page...Thanks, Hal
There is an awesome assembly and disassembly video that Gary posted on youtube...
 
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Tstat

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So, speaking of the SR74... the other day I ran out of my Colorado BHO and didn't want to run QWET until my new screens came in. Last week, my son ran some of our uber-potent Lemon Skunk trim with Bubble Bags. The results were amazing. I'll post a picture later, but it was a light brown/tan goo with no plant material at all. It melts instantly on a nail, so...

I took a chunk and stuck it in the Herc just for fun. All I can say, holy shit! It gave the biggest tastiest clouds I have gotten yet from this device :) As soon as I hit the button the vapor appears and lasts long after I release it. Truly amazing, IMO!
 

halibutt

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Thanks, I found that video. I started looking for the instructions when I had some usage questions the first few times I tried out my SR-74 yesterday (how long do I hold the button for priming, hitting, stuff like that).

I'm pretty sure I am using, just thought I would double check by reading instructions. I know my questions have probably been answered already in this thread, figured I would read the instructions to make sure I'm using it right...Hal
 
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Darb

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Got the sr-74 upgrade for my sr-71 and was wondering if I need to upgrade the coils too? Using the ones that came with my sr-71.

Also do we still need to cut the coils or leave them as is? I remember before it was advised to cut your coils 60/40 for different types of concentrates, do we need to do this to the coils that are out now?
I'm still using a SR-71 but I would recommend the new TI coils. I just got mine a few days ago and they're much better. They soak up more oil and seem to help me have less leaks. Taste was a little off for the first .5 or so but it's great now.
 

warnerg54

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Thanks, I found that video. I started looking for the instructions when I had some usage questions the first few times I tried out my SR-74 yesterday (how long do I hold the button for priming, hitting, stuff like that).

I'm pretty sure I am using, just thought I would double check by reading instructions. I know my questions have probably been answered already in this thread, figured I would read the instructions to make sure I'm using it right...Hal
Hey man.. I have had my SR74 for 2 weeks, so take my instructions with a grain of salt...or a dab of BHO...LOL! The first time I set it up, I used 1 coil, and about 1/2 gram of some shatter, split it up, and loaded 1/3 of it at a time, i just pulsed the button on the Persei for about 4-5 seconds until it liquified and went into the coil, and repeated the 2x more till the 1/2 gram was loaded. I then let the unit cool down for about 5 minutes, loaded .3g of bho, held the button for about 15 seconds, started hitting it, released the button about 5 seconds later, and kept going for another 10 seconds... I also didn't tighten down the set nut on the heating rod, just snug, and 1/3 of a gram leaked down, so I tightened it up, and it has been a dream since! I have put around 5 grams through it thus far... It also is going to depend on what type of oil you are using...
 
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Mynameismud

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actually ya I have thats the first place I looked and its clean as can be no leaks
all I can think is maybe by the time I was really vaping off it after soaking my coil initially my batteries were to low to give me a good rip I do have the IMR batteries tho so idk

also seemed like it took a while for the Hercules to get warm once it did it worked better but I would get absolutely nothing while it was cold to the touch from the outside of the cartridge

I can tell its working I just need to learn the technique for this beast
I find that with the sr74 rod and ti coils you need to preheat it a little first. My first hit is usually whispy, then subsequent hits are great.
yes sorry I have the aw imr high drain batteries little red ones upgraded from vapor warehouse @Sleepin in CA


so does the ceramic rod have to be flush with the top of the ti coil or is it ok if it sticks over a little bit
yes thats normal for one coil. It actually works a little better that way if you have thicker oils because the oil is closet yo the hottest part of the rod.
Got the sr-74 upgrade for my sr-71 and was wondering if I need to upgrade the coils too? Using the ones that came with my sr-71.

Also do we still need to cut the coils or leave them as is? I remember before it was advised to cut your coils 60/40 for different types of concentrates, do we need to do this to the coils that are out now?
for the ti coils no need to cut. Theyre equivalent to 30ish% of the SS coils. You dont need to upgrade them as well but its definitely an improvement. And you can torch them The only thing i dont like is having them slide up because theyre slimmer. If you stick with the SS a 50% cut should be fine and just maybe compress it with your fingers a little.

I just switched from shatter to wax and added a second coil. Have about a g in it now lets see how this goes. The rod is just slightly below the second coil....

Also another note. I didnt think i would like or use the hammer top that much. Boy was i wrong. It is perfect for the hercules. I love it so much and dont know how i used it without it...i really want to go back to the black rod, i just like the 74 rod so much that i keep loading it and dont wanna make a mess by switching out the rods.:doh:
 

caporoot

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Just received my SR-74 today. Do I sanitize/boil ALL the parts of the Hercules or only certain parts?

Thanks
 
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Mynameismud

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Anyone want to trade a black sr71 rod for a white sr74 rod? Lol

Mudd makes me want to give it another go. May just have to go buy a new black one.

=)

I dont know about that... Im pretty happy with the 74 white rod. I have yet to burn any oil with it. Except maybe a couple times when it was low on oil and i ran it hard... Taste wise its pretty much on par with the black rod and requires less work and technique...

I just have not used it with the hammer top. Which i think it would be perfect for and wanna give it a try.

But now the only reason i would go back to the black rod would be for portability/being able to use a shorty tube with it.

Just received my SR-74 today. Do I sanitize/boil ALL the parts of the Hercules or only certain parts?

Thanks
You dont need to boil. Rinse everything under warm water. Wipe dry, assemble and do a few dry burns to get rid of any excess water
 

Sleepin in CA

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@Mynameismud I am interested in the black rod because I want to run it on a shorty. My last black rod had an issue, and there weren't any available then to replace it if memory serves. I have always wanted to try it again.

I like the sr74 rod fine, just like the higher heat of the original better for my needs. When the IRIS V2 releases I will use it to tame her when needed. For now I am a JedHIGH MASTER at the button press! Lol

=)
 
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Mynameismud

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Oh okay, perfect. Anything else you recommend I do before using?

Thanks again!
Have fun! Obviously disassemble and reassemble it a few times so you get the hang of it. And i would try heating it up a few times before you load it to make sure its working. Heat it up without the black shield on so you can see and feel it heating up. With white rod it should be able to see it glow in about 10-15 seconds...

With loading, if using one coil. Load about 0.2-0.3 g twice (0.5-0.6 total) and you should be good to go
 

THC SCIENTIFIC

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Does anyone have a copy of the SR-74 instructions or a link you can post? The link on the w9tech site doesn't work for the SR-74, the link takes me back to the main page. If I go to their main page, click the link for "Instructions", then under cartridges select the manual for SR-74, the link brings me to their home page...Thanks, Hal

The new SR 74 instructions are being worked on and should be available by monday the latest.


G, The instructions look great. Very clear and concise! The only errors that I see are on page 11 near the bottom in the "Do's and Dont's". The third "Do" mentions 14500 battery (Omicron battery). And on the third "Don't" it mentions screwing a cart onto the Omicron Ti. Otherwise, looks great!

Thanks for pointing that out ill get on it.
 

Caligula

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Well, my 7 days with the Iris V2 have come to an end.

Over 2.5 grams of top shelf nug-run oil were put though the Hercules with this attachment accompanying the ride. Sadly, my review period coincided with a 5 day stay from the in-laws as well as my daughter's birthday, so most of my testing was "on the go". I dont see this as a bad thing however, since the Persei is, by design, a portable unit and should be used as such. Also, as you may recall from @Sleepin in CA's review, this is still a "prototype". As such, I am not here to review its build quality or aesthetics but rather to run the unit through its paces to see what comes loose.

To start off, I used the Iris in conjunction with my SR71/74 combo. This includes the SR74 white 7.4v rod and one SR74 Ti coil, with the rest of the unit being from the SR71. With this combo, I was able to improve upon flavor, however this resulted in leaking at first. It took a few days of playing with technique, and toying with the voltage some but I finally got it to work without much leaking into the lower half of the heater. I eventually settled on 7.0v for maximum flavor, while retaining vapor production. With the shatter-glass that I was using, anything less resulted in weak performance and increased leaking into the lower chamber.

From there, I moved to the SR71 white rod and one SR74 Ti coil. This experience was much better IMO. There is much more headroom to play with power wise, and thus I found finding the proper power level to be easier. On top of that, I quickly determined that this is a much better way of preventing burnt oil than using the SR74 rod.

Finally, I ended up using a pure SR71 configuration with a 30% SS coil. This probably worked the best out of all 3 configurations. The SS coil doesn't have that tendency to slide up the heating chamber, which makes taking larger hits much easier (and without fear of unseating the coil). In fact, when I dialed the power down to about 6.6-6.8v I was able to ride the button as long as I wanted while taking as big a hit as I wanted. This was easily the most devastating combination of the 3 for that reason alone. At the same time, though, flavor was the least pronounced. I would have to assume this has to do more with the coil material than anything else though.

Now, in all 3 cases I was able to coax more flavor, battery life and less leaking (for the most part) out of my Persei/Hercules combo than with a standard top. This in and of itself is worth the price of admission, however the added bonus of never having to bust out my DMM to check resistance, as well as never having to guess on my remaining battery life are the nail in the coffin for me. That, combined with the performance advantage makes this a must buy for any serious Hercules owner.

Now all G has to do is address the build/cosmetic issues and we have a winner.

@THC SCIENTIFIC The only "problems" I found were:

  • Touchy battery contact (resolved by raising the battery perch/spring past suggested levels)
  • Hit or miss with quick button presses registering to turn the unit on/off
...and really that's it except for a few build quality issues, however as I said I think that's neither here nor there since its just a beta unit. Of course if you'd like me to pick those aspects apart, just let me know.
 
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Mynameismud

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thank you for the very thorough instructions @Mynameismud mines working a lot better now
Anytime. Glad i could help. The hercules is very intimidating/confusing/tricky from an outsiders/newbie perspective. Once you get over the hump it should be all clouds and no downtime unless you lose a part. (Those white ptfe rings,the nut and retaining rod are very easy to lose be careful when cleaning, especially if you just used the herc prior to cleaning;)) Enjoy it! If you have any other problems feel free to pm me.

That goes for anyone on here
 
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