Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

[Porquiplane]

Security measures. May be one user, may be a million users. Porquiplane is Porquiplane. Porquiplane is omnipotent.

Check every post, words such as "I, me, my, mine" have never been used. Anything showing that porquiplane is anything but non-existant other than a computerized system of letters.

Por Qui Plane from the weast coast. Some Overworld zone. Overworld 1-1.

Could be some barren dessert creature. Some green thing with a red seat and likes apples and red italian plumbers...

But on a side note, did G realize that a mock up persei can be made (if you already own one) by just getting the ss tubes. One double top and one single top? Its a good deal for those who didnt think of that and want two units...

 

[DubCRider]

You signed your last post as Handtowel, now I'm lost......

Definitly time for a dab!

 

[Porquiplane]

Thats the name. Porquiplane HandTowel JR the Third, Senior. And yes, definitely need a dab.




all set now

 

[OB]

What are some ways to keep solid gold runnin out the bottom of my 5 ohm cart.? Is this cart always.going to leak even if I use it with wax?

 

[Porquiplane]

Solid gold? Made by tetralabs? Or a knockoff if puregold?

Easiest way is not heat an empty cartridge (meaning dont press the button with an empty cartridge,). Or pull too hard on it. No pre-oxing. And keep it upright. And keep it in a cooler, less humid areas.

Now it may taste like dog sack on the first 5 hits, but once its soaked in the wick you cant tell.

However, these carts are rather foul with leaking and clogging issues. No avoiding clogs really, only leaks. Only gotten leaks on carts that were pre-oxed, and pulled on too hard by newbs. It will leak with any type of concentrate or any material. However those above ways help avoid the leak issues.

Once a leaker, always a leaker. Reclaim or finish out the cart and then throw it. Best idea is a 3 or 4 ohm at 3.7volt. Keep things slow and tasteful and cooler.

 

[Darb]

After going through at least a full box of each cart I'll never buy anything but the 2.4's.
Best tasting, longest lasting, least leaks.

 

[Porquiplane]

After going through at least a full box of each cart I'll never buy anything but the 2.4's.
Best tasting, longest lasting, least leaks.

Dont see why so many are using 2.4. Ones that were got here didnt work at all. Older no label ones. Not even a single hit. Does it burn up faster than the 3 or 4 ohm at 3.7 volt? Of course. Wouldnt slower, smaller, cooler hits help aid in non-leaking and better taste.

Know most people go for "clouds" and clouds look cool and all sitting in your room by yourself, but fry through concentrate quick.

Does no one else use high ohmers with low voltage? Dont knock until you try. 3 ohm at 3.7 is prime, in an opinion. Slow toast and good taste. Never leaks. 5 ohmers leak alot, seemingly. Only had leaks from 5 ohmers.

 

[OF]

Dont see why so many are using 2.4.

I guess my answer to that is 'because they work better for me'? By a wide margin. And it seems most others? My advice remains to start your Omicron adventure with them and stick with them until you master the machine.

I'm also of the opinion it's bad karma to ever run one dry, and so call 'pre oxidizing' is exactly that (and therefore should be avoided). So is 'checking for the glow' on new carts. I avoid them all. Without concentrate evaporating to draw off the heat, the heater can get hotter than it would when wet. And that very same wire runs under the seals. Melt them, even a little bit, and you open a hole in the bottom of the system.

I think 'chain hitting' can also be a problem in that you can cook the oil in the preheat area (notice how hot the tube gets? It's far hotter in the oil....).

Another key was suggested by G a while back and has worked well for me, 'don't fill it all the way up'. I put half a gram in a new cart and vape off the first quarter gram or so before adding the rest. Next time I start a cart of PG I intend to load even less than half a gram, I noticed the leaks in PG carts seem to slow down some as the level drops. They seem to stop at about 250 mg and yet still hit fine. For sure thin concentrates are a bigger challenge. However, using stiff CO2 concentrates (both waxes and oils), 2.4 Ohm carts, smaller fills and taking it easy I've all but eliminated leaks and plugs.

But my advice is 'stick with 2.4s until you master the system'. Because they work best.

OF

 

[jpdnkstr]

Picked up a Hammer (and top) the other day, I must say that I had doubted the usefulness of this add-on..... until now.....WOW! I'm really enjoying this addition to my Utopia Planitia gear line up. I've used it as an herb iron, as well as stab and dab, which will blow your fuckin' head right off if done properly!(took me a few tries before mastering this technique, easier with a full (nail)head of oil!)(the more surface area touching the oil, the better!) I'm definitely still learning with this new tool, but I think I'm going to continue to find uses for it! I am also really enjoying the SS tank, using for tobacco cessation, which is working very well(only 3 analog cigs in 4 days!) I have tried other e-cig set ups in the past, and I haven't been as pleased as I am with this tank system!

The Persei is

THE ABSOLUTE CUTTING EDGE OF PORTABLE VAPOR TECHNOLOGY!

Just like the box says!


p.s. can't wait for the Bender to ship!

 

[Darb]

Hoping for an early Bender release....

 

[nickzzzx]

Picked up a Hammer (and top) the other day, I must say that I had doubted the usefulness of this add-on..... until now.....WOW! I'm really enjoying this addition to my Utopia Planitia gear line up. I've used it as an herb iron, as well as stab and dab, which will blow your fuckin' head right off if done properly!(took me a few tries before mastering this technique, easier with a full (nail)head of oil!)(the more surface area touching the oil, the better!) I'm definitely still learning with this new tool, but I think I'm going to continue to find uses for it! I am also really enjoying the SS tank, using for tobacco cessation, which is working very well(only 3 analog cigs in 4 days!) I have tried other e-cig set ups in the past, and I haven't been as pleased as I am with this tank system!

The Persei is

THE ABSOLUTE CUTTING EDGE OF PORTABLE VAPOR TECHNOLOGY!

Just like the box says!


p.s. can't wait for the Bender to ship!

I used to use a herb iron as my primary device along with a sherlock dry and it was awesome to 'stab and dab' with the tip. Like you said, surface area is key, I liked to dab while the tip was cool or warm and then heat up the tip just a little bit to get the oil less viscous so I could use gravity while turning the wand to coat the tip. If you don't coat the tip it'll just slide all over the place once it heats up. Sounds like you caught on pretty fast!

 

[JoeKickass]

If you want to operate the hammer correctly as in turn it on and leave it alone to heat up then you need the top, if not then you need to hold the button down while your loading your ti nail.

On a side note final Hercules Prototype for production porn ready to show you.

sorry guys i was recovering from the first testing of the herc on 3.7v, i will continue testing tomorrow, time to go home.

Testing has Started for Hercules 3.7v using AW IMR (none charged). using Herb , I didnt care to check voltage on the battery as it was a first run and wanted to see how it performed out of the box. Battery i currently charging and i will begin documenting as soon as its done.

Testing.

I wish I had your job... but seriously, is there something wrong with the Hercules/Nail Cart?

 

[DubCRider]

The only thing wrong is that they aren't on the site yet!

 

[Porquiplane]

Or test results put up yet... Near week of testing and no results or charts or statistics. Must be it put 'im on his ass.

 

[kittyboy]

I used to use a herb iron as my primary device along with a sherlock dry and it was awesome to 'stab and dab' with the tip. Like you said, surface area is key, I liked to dab while the tip was cool or warm and then heat up the tip just a little bit to get the oil less viscous so I could use gravity while turning the wand to coat the tip. If you don't coat the tip it'll just slide all over the place once it heats up. Sounds like you caught on pretty fast!

I use a 90 degree swing t nail and glass hood and wonder if the hammer can replace my torch for heating the titanium part. I have to heat it up with torch and swing it down. Would hammer heat it up by touching together then I drip earl onto pad.? And if it would how many heat ups would i get from a charge?
Seems there is not enough space to hold hammer over earl to heat. Thanks
Or can you heat hammer up under glass hood and drip earl on to hammer?
Hoping the new hercules and carts allow taste like my swing vape setup.

 

[iight]

Understood, you're not the first guy to jump into the deep end before learning to swim. IMO the 'start with 2.4 Ohm carts until you gain the necessary skills' message gets missed (or ignored) all too often. The results are pretty predictable. Such new owner problems were pretty rare before the 'better' carts came out.

Dollars to doughnuts, 2.4s and taking it easy until you can drive them instinctively is the call.

Good luck.

OF

Great point. I just wonder why the kit comes with the 5.0's if the 2.4 are more for beginners? I would assume it's because "This is not for beginners" is written everywhere in the manual lol.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Would hammer heat it up by touching together then I drip earl onto pad.? And if it would how many heat ups would i get from a charge?
Or can you heat hammer up under glass hood and drip earl on to hammer?
Hoping the new hercules and carts allow taste like my swing vape setup.

the hammer won't heat up your swing, but you could put small drops on the wand or, more effective, switch to a nail setup. hope that helps

 

[Nick Again]

Great point. I just wonder why the kit comes with the 5.0's if the 2.4 are more for beginners? I would assume it's because "This is not for beginners" is written everywhere in the manual lol.

The 5.0's are intended to be EASIER. Those of us who were "early" got 4 Ohm cartridges (then +2 from PV plus an extra box all "/601" labelled horizontally, not the newer "/6" vertically labelled ones).

4's can be simple - push button, count to 3 or 4, inhale for 15 or 20 seconds 'til cold Unfortunately, they all leak - just a matter of how fast (only one of nine "poured through"). I have had only one box of the Horizontal 5's, and they definitely don't leak _as much_, for me.

Everyone who says 2.4s only has a great point - They "Just Work (TM)" - They can take a lot of abuse that would destroy any other rated cart. The other rated cartridges run hotter when something goes _wrong_, like a clogged wick - otherwise when everything is working, (as OF pointed out) they just do the same thing faster.

Still, hard to beat double 4's with fresh batteries for quick medication (or clouds - DubC made those videos with them for a reason).

Of course, this will be moot by October when we all have leak-proof 1701s that can dry fire for minutes...

-NDA

 

[OF]

Great point. I just wonder why the kit comes with the 5.0's if the 2.4 are more for beginners?

Thanks.

Two thoughts, first only Persei comes with 5.0 Ohms (anything else and the two batteries for 7.4 Volts make no sense really.....), secondly I'm not convinced that kit is intended for beginners....mostly because it says so:
The Persei is a TOMV ( Tool of Mass Vaporization ), over saturation of desired effects can happen very easily. If not used properly it will damage cartridges and it can cause cartridges to leak. Please do not purchase this device if you are not experienced with these types of vapes. Not for beginners.

My advice remains, new guys should master 2.4 Ohms at 3.7 Volts first. FWIW, I don't think I'm alone in that......

OF

 

[iight]

secondly I'm not convinced that kit is intended for beginners....mostly because it says so:
OF

Right, it is certainly clear before buying this that it's more advanced and not for beginners. I mean...do you know how long it took me to find the trap door in the box lol

I thought i was missing the whole second half of the kit...turns out just the white caps were missing....and the oil

 

[OF]

Right, it is certainly clear before buying this that it's more advanced and not for beginners. I mean...do you know how long it took me to find the trap door in the box lol

I thought i was missing the whole second half of the kit...turns out just the white caps were missing....and the oil

I hear you there. I got mine straight from the hands of G himself (at a show), I knew it was down there but the ribbon was under it.....

I'd have been disappointed about the no oil part as well, but he made me test the 8 prototype there in the booth.....it got a bit fuzzy after that part. He seemed to enjoy it, though.

OF

 

[Zingbuddah]

Thanks.

My advice remains, new guys should master 2.4 Ohms at 3.7 Volts first. FWIW, I don't think I'm alone in that......

OF

2.4 Ohms until you get the hang of it, or be prepared to spend $200 in carts and meds until you figure out how to handle the additional kick.

At 175 pages, I think we've seen all cases end in one or the other result.

-Z

 

[Porquiplane]

G, will there be any change in airflow in the Hercules cart? Meaning, amount of air able to be sucked in at one point. The old cart are a bit hard to get a full deep lung on. People will say "hit it like a straw" or "small pulls". But that doesnt exactly work for the medical its being used for. Needs to hit down in deep lung, without getting so little oxygen and light headed (current carts). Like the light vapor of 3 ohm at 3.7volt.

And for everyone. The AW IMR 18650 3.7 volt batteries on D9 are definitely the best batteries for this unit. Hardly ever have to charge them. Go nearly a month or two as daily driver and they still have great charge.

 

[OF]

And for everyone. The AW IMR 18650 3.7 volt batteries on D9 are definitely the best batteries for this unit. Hardly ever have to charge them. Go nearly a month or two as daily driver and they still have great charge.

Well, it's true they 'hit harder' (have higher output under load), but there are lots of others that have higher capacity (will go longer between charges) at the expense of flat out power on demand.

IMO "nearly a month or two as daily driver" is a tough measure to deal with. "Daily driver" being highly subjective to the user and there's a HUGE difference between one month or two (like 100%). AW is the top of the heap in general, IMRs have perhaps the best internal resistance (therefore most out under load) but that comes with a trade off. Run of the mill protected Li-ions have more capacity.

I agree, they are the best if you're after 'big clouds'. But those after long life have better options. Both don't come in the same package. Each guy gets to decide which is better?

OF

 

[Porquiplane]

Call it month and a half driven 8 times daily. But used with a 3-5 ohm single cart. So long batt life goes hand in hand with the high resistance of the cart.