The Magic-Flight Box

[chris9]

Love this thing. Sorry if this isn't the right place to post. This is my first vape and I find that each session I take 3 x ten second draws and the trench lasts seemingly forever. Well easy 3-5 sessions. I'm starting to doubt whether I need to change the herb at all.

And it's crazy discrete. When I was in high school we had to go out to our cars to get high. Now kids I'm sure don't even have to leave the class!

 

[mplx]

A few days ago i cleaned my glass stems for some candy, with some result Now i`m not really sure how to enjoy this. I have the concentrate trays. Normally i use the non-screened tray for hash. Guess i should use the screened one for this? And also what does it do? Is this comparable with hash or is it way stronger? Concentrates are not common in Europe except hashish (don`t wanna wake up 3 days later).

And at what temp should i vape this, and just spread it in the screened tray?

 

[KidFated.]

A few days ago i cleaned my glass stems for some candy, with some result Now i`m not really sure how to enjoy this. I have the concentrate trays. Normally i use the non-screened tray for hash. Guess i should use the screened one for this? And also what does it do? Is this comparable with hash or is it way stronger? Concentrates are not common in Europe except hashish (don`t wanna wake up 3 days later).

And at what temp should i vape this, and just spread it in the screened tray?

Screened tray use small amounts to avoid bubbling over onto your box screen. It's good stuff

 

[Ano]

Guess i should use the screened one for this? And also what does it do? Is this comparable with hash or is it way stronger? Concentrates are not common in Europe except hashish (don`t wanna wake up 3 days later).

And at what temp should i vape this, and just spread it in the screened tray?

As mentioned, the screened tray with small amounts is the way to go.

To facilitate transferring the concentrate, try heating the blade (while avoiding to apply a flame directly on the concentrate) just enough for the concentrate to start dripping, then try getting 2-3 drops onto the tray.

As far as vaping goes, check this useful video once your concentrate is on the tray.

And for the effects, yes, it will be stronger than hash but you will use less, and the effects duration should be similar.

 

[mplx]

Thanks for the replies. I tried yesterdaynight and it worked fine. Did not have that much but is was more than enough. Ano i will use your advice and that video the next time i collect enough. I`m sure i can get more vape from it that way.

But now i do understand why wax/oil is so popular, from 1 to 100 in a few seconds

 

[Captain Comply]

After receiving my MFLB back from a friend I must say I really enjoy this little portable vape. With its wood body silent operation & positive message I can see why many people are talking about it.

Have fun & be Well

 

[blazenot]

went into a store and saw a knockoff mf. what a piece of crap. lid didn't stay shut, mouthpiece was loose, batteries too tight. and $85.

 

[OF]

went into a store and saw a knockoff mf. what a piece of crap. lid didn't stay shut, mouthpiece was loose, batteries too tight. and $85.

Sad, truly sad. Can you pick it out of 'the mug shots'?
http://www.magic-flight.com/counterfeit-page.php

OF

 

[blazenot]

it was a hunka wood, no design. looked mostly like the quickvape

 

[StrawbKerry]

Thought I'd finally check back in on FC, give you all an update on my experience with this little masterpiece. By pure coincidence it's been two months - to the day - since I received it in the mail from the other side of the world! I still remember opening the box and staring in wonderment at its walnut glory. I didn't have any of the good stuff on me that day but I vaped some oregano just to sample it. (v. delicious by the way )

In short, it's a wonderful device that quickly transformed me from a casual cannabis smoker to a daily cannabis vaper, before settling somewhere in between (only vaping, of course). From the first draw, I knew I wouldn't be going back to smoking. Mainly because I never truly liked bongs and I couldn't roll joints all that well, but still...

My first vape lasted about 8 seconds on a surprisingly nice winter's day. The taste came on straight away, a bit strong if I'm honest, but something that I have grown accustomed to and now enjoy. I was overly cautious of combusting for probably the first week of having it, taking very short draws, although I immediately got a hang of the soft inhale necessary for the device. From there it was

I love everything about it; the size, the shape, the craftsmanship, the way the cover clicks in place, the vague smell of an empty trench, the inviting smell of a full one, the portability, the technique required, the trial and error required to master that technique, pushing the battery in and watching the light turn on, seeing the first wisp of vapour before putting it up to my mouth and breathing ever so lightly, the gentle burn on my bottom lip when it reaches the right temperature, breathing in faster to capture all the vapour at the end, the feeling my lungs get when they're at capacity, the subtle but insant buzz as I exhale, removing the battery and then shaking and firmly tapping it against my right palm. The entire process is always a joy, secondary to the high but pleasurable in its own right.


The high is definitely more sativa-like in nature than combusting, which is preferable because it enables me to carry out normal tasks with a gentle buzz rather than a couch-locked overload. I did miss the body-high initially, although I figured out how to get that if I want it. One time I took about a 30-35 second draw and exhaled, and immediately felt unconscionably baked as a cake and cooked as a chook. Another great bonus is if I did it before sleep I'd wake up with an anti-hangover, feeling a little bit sharper than usual in the morning.

I have taken and used it in almost every place I've been. My room adjacent to my blissfully unaware, non-smoking housemate's. At work. Outside, less than 5 metres away from policemen, although that was an accident! Places I never thought imaginable before discovering vaping. I've introduced it to a few friends and managed to convert most of them at least partially, convincing seven by my last count to purchase one. Most of them still combust though when they want to get super stoned, and view the LB as a daily device.

I started doing it too regularly for my liking, at least once a day for purely recreational purposes. I started to lose motivation, my mind became the slightest bit hazy and most importantly, I think I was beginning to get addicted (if I wasn't already). Towards the end of my most recent stash I slowed it down to 3 or 4 times a week, and since finishing about 2 weeks ago, have gone cold turkey and will keep doing so until the end of October. I had two hits of a bong a week ago though and actually didn't mind it (it was definitely the most up-market bong I'd ever tried however, loaded with attachments; that made it easier).

All in all, I've had a great time with my MFLB, but for my own sake I've needed to take a little break. I truly love it, and once I control my usage to a manageable level I'll have truly mastered it

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[Ano]

I started doing it too regularly for my liking, at least once a day for purely recreational purposes. I started to lose motivation, my mind became the slightest bit hazy and most importantly, I think I was beginning to get addicted (if I wasn't already). Towards the end of my most recent stash I slowed it down to 3 or 4 times a week, and since finishing about 2 weeks ago, have gone cold turkey and will keep doing so until the end of October. I had two hits of a bong a week ago though and actually didn't mind it (it was definitely the most up-market bong I'd ever tried however, loaded with attachments; that made it easier).

Really nice review, and I tend to agree with this part.

I think for recreational users the MFLB allows for a more compulsive consumption than smoking.
The instant vapor production, the ability to take just what you want from the trench to get where you want, the efficiency (quantity related), the extreme portability and the considerably lower health issues have led me to go from a few sessions on the weekend to a few sessions a day.

I still don't consider myself "addicted" as I often take week-long breaks without noticing any negative side effect, but I recently thought back of my consumption and decided to restrain from vaping three days in a row, taking a break at least every couple of days of continued vaping.

Of course all of this probably isn't a concern for medical users, but I know there are quite a bit of recreational users here on FC.

 

[OF]

Of course all of this probably isn't a concern for medical users, but I know there are quite a bit of recreational users here on FC.

I disagree. The same rules apply to both groups generally; loss of sensitivity (AKA 'tolerance buildup') is a very real problem with the MMJ users. IMO much more of a problem since simply deciding not to use it for a while goes completely against the idea of Medical use.

Rather, I think, it becomes an effort at getting a medically effective dose without impacting tolerance (probably not possible in the long run?). The goal is quite different from a recreational one. Typically MMJ users are trying to stop short of party time, where as most recreational users I think are planning to blow past that sign winding out top gear on their way to new heights.

Completely understandable, of course, but IMO very different. But the same base issue is there, one group tries to avoid it, the other to deal with it.

So, in a way I maintain that not only is it a concern, but actually it's a much bigger concern for MMJ users. We have fewer options and frankly a more pressing need (at least at times). It's just not about fun you see.

Good thoughts, thanks.

OF

 

[Ano]

Yes, my thought was that you can't really quit your medication, but indeed the concern is still there, only different.

I also understand that it's just not about fun.

As for my personal recreational use, there are times indeed where I'm looking for new heights as you mentioned, but most of the time I keep it below "party time" too.
I don't consider the high itself as the objective (with exceptions), my goal is mainly to use the high as a tool to enhance different activities and occupations, while remaining functional. I also like to enjoy some of the actual medical benefits, even if this is not my primary focus/something I need.

All of this to say, every user profile is different, even among the recreational users (I have no doubt you're already aware of this, just wanted to share my typical use ).


By the way, I found the MFLB to be the ideal tool to get right where I want without going higher.
When I first started vaping I experimented with it quite a bit, and among the experiments one proved to be really useful regarding this objective : I took my hits one at a time, allowing 5-10 minutes between them to allow the effects to settle.
This way I was able to determine exactly how many hits I needed to get where I wanted, subsequently taking said number of hits in quick sessions, thus helping with conservation and avoiding being higher than expected.

That's something I find harder to do with the Solo. Being a session based vape with heat up time, I tend to get higher than necessary with it as I'm still struggling to figure out precisely how much I need.

 

[StrawbKerry]

As for my personal recreational use, there are times indeed where I'm looking for new heights as you mentioned, but most of the time I keep it below "party time" too.
I don't consider the high itself as the objective (with exceptions), my goal is mainly to use the high as a tool to enhance different activities and occupations, while remaining functional. I also like to enjoy some of the actual medical benefits, even if this is not my primary focus/something I need.

This is almost exactly how I'd use it. I wasn't constantly stoned, but I was definitely under the influence too much of the time, and when I wasn't I'd always be thinking about how [insert activity] would be a different experience. That's when I knew it was time for a break.

By the way, I found the MFLB to be the ideal tool to get right where I want without going higher.
When I first started vaping I experimented with it quite a bit, and among the experiments one proved to be really useful regarding this objective : I took my hits one at a time, allowing 5-10 minutes between them to allow the effects to settle.
This way I was able to determine exactly how many hits I needed to get where I wanted, subsequently taking said number of hits in quick sessions, thus helping with conservation and avoiding being higher than expected.

I did the same, and it's the best tip I can offer on finding your own personal sweet spot/s with the LB if you're a new user. For finding the right technique doing what's written above - but leaving it at one draw so you have a control - is the most precise way of finding what works best for you.

 

[ginobaki4]

Hi guys. I picked up the MFLB a few days ago (and love it). I just have a question regarding the battery. I just don't know how to tell when they're finally charged. All I see when they're charging, is a still red light. That's it. No blinking. If they're empty, the charger will show the same "still red light". After hours of charging, the same "still red light". So my question is:

How can you tell when the batteries are fully charged or empty? Is there away to know using the charger?

Hi people! Just received my finishing grinder and have a couple doubts. Should I clean it before use? How often and what you use to clean it?

Thx!!

I asked a friend of mine a few days ago (who's owned his for awhile), and he told me that he never cleaned his once. Maybe, from time to time, brush off some built up material. But that's it. Personally, I've never cleaned any normal grinder ever. So, I can't imagine needing to clean the MFLB one.

 

[1flyfisher]

Hi people! Just received my finishing grinder and have a couple doubts. Should I clean it before use? How often and what you use to clean it?

Thx!!

CLean it before you use it? WTF for?

went into a store and saw a knockoff mf. what a piece of crap. lid didn't stay shut, mouthpiece was loose, batteries too tight. and $85.

The Chinese will counterfeit anything the sonsabitch bastards can get their hands on.

Well I just got back from my first Fall fishing trip with the MFLB. It sucked. The fishing was epic and I banged some 20" rainbows but the MFLB sucked. I have come to hate this thing. It blew out both interior auxiliary power outlets. I had to come home and go to the auto electric repair shop and have them repair both ports and replace fuses. I have had enough of this thing. I am looking at the Lotus or the Vapeman. If anyone has any experience with either of those two let me know. I need something for camping out in the boonies. I can't be fucking around with batteries while flyfishing/camping. I like the idea of a torch lighter and packing a bowl and blasting it with some good ole flame. This seems much simpler and easier for camping and being out in the middle of the lake instead of screwing around with batteries.
LOL I wasted so much weed with this damn thing. I filled a tic tac container with finely ground herb before I left. Try getting finely ground up herb into this damn thing out in the middle of a lake. The stuff is so finely ground it just blows away. It is like freshly ground pepper blowing away in the wind. I am also sick of grinding up my weed into pulverized dust to make this thing work. I like bud sticky icky not all dried out and pulverized into granuals the size of salt or pepper. This thing is just too much work. I will check out other vapes. I wasted my money on this pos.

Hi guys. I picked up the MFLB a few days ago (and love it). I just have a question regarding the battery. I just don't know how to tell when they're finally charged. All I see when they're charging, is a still red light. That's it. No blinking. If they're empty, the charger will show the same "still red light". After hours of charging, the same "still red light". So my question is:

How can you tell when the batteries are fully charged or empty? Is there away to know using the charger?



I asked a friend of mine a few days ago (who's owned his for awhile), and he told me that he never cleaned his once. Maybe, from time to time, brush off some built up material. But that's it. Personally, I've never cleaned any normal grinder ever. So, I can't imagine needing to clean the MFLB one.

The battery light should turn green when the batteries are fully charged. This can take several hours. They say to leave it on the charger over night.

 

[max]

CLean it before you use it? WTF for?

I would always clean a grinder before first use, as I would with new eating and drinking products.

The Chinese will counterfeit anything the sonsabitch bastards can get their hands on.

Let's not see any more nasty comments like that here on the forum, OK?

... the MFLB sucked.

The MF doesn't suck as a vaporizer, but it's possible that your technique does.

I wasted my money on this pos.

Please review the rules page, paying particular attention to the section on attacking vape companies/models. You're over the line.

 

[OF]

I would always clean a grinder before first use, as I would with new eating and drinking products.

Excellent point. I extend that to mouthpieces and vapor path as well. I don't want to be sucking in any spiders or rat droppings...... I'm sure most makers make a sincere effort to be sure stuff is clean before going out, but I figure I've got a bigger stake in that part than them?

How can you tell when the batteries are fully charged or empty? Is there away to know using the charger?

The battery light should turn green when the batteries are fully charged. This can take several hours. They say to leave it on the charger over night.

I'd be a little careful here, MF has changed chargers supplied in the kits several times (I have 3 different ones in 'the old charger' box IIRC. Some are quite colorful, others hard to fathom. Some use those horrid red/green LEDs which are useless to some of us color blind folks (about as many men are color blind as left handed, very rare in women). Red/green problems are half the total color blind cases. You're not amongst us without knowing by chance? It's one of those things you need to be tested for, in most cases it comes as a total surprise......of course. Usually some shades of red/green get confused with others, not 'all trees look gray'. The lights usually make sense at some level I think.

It's easy to test to see if it's charging (the light in the LB gets brighter.....). But advice from one owner might be a clean miss if the charger models don't match.

FWIW the 'charge overnight' is advice for first time charges on a different kind of battery (Li-ion). NiMH, like used here, should not be left in. They are very sensitive to this, much more so than the NiCd batteries they've largely replaced.

Good luck sorting it out, but it should be self evident to some extent. MF might be a help, but I'd give them the model of the charger in question?

OF

 

[Traaaaan]

Well I just got back from my first Fall fishing trip with the MFLB. It sucked. The fishing was epic and I banged some 20" rainbows but the MFLB sucked. I need something for camping out in the boonies. I can't be fucking around with batteries while flyfishing/camping. I like the idea of a torch lighter and packing a bowl and blasting it with some good ole flame. This seems much simpler and easier for camping and being out in the middle of the lake instead of screwing around with batteries.

LOL I wasted so much weed with this damn thing. I filled a tic tac container with finely ground herb before I left. Try getting finely ground up herb into this damn thing out in the middle of a lake. The stuff is so finely ground it just blows away. It is like freshly ground pepper blowing away in the wind. I am also sick of grinding up my weed into pulverized dust to make this thing work. I like bud sticky icky not all dried out and pulverized into granuals the size of salt or pepper. This thing is just too much work. I will check out other vapes. I wasted my money on this post.

Do your research next time. You picked the mflb, it requires a fine grind and dry herb. Would you buy a car that requires diesel and not use diesel?

There are other Vapes out there that require very little maintenance. Look at the pax and the solo. But as with anything electronic there are problems that can occur.

Go back to combusting if you like "sticky icky" bud. Vapes of any kind work best with dry herbs.

Vapes are nice but sometimes I don't want to deal with charging and heating to a proper temp for a quick hit. For these occasions I whip out my bowl and take a hit for simplicity' sake.

 

[Buildozer]

It's hilarious to call something a POS just because you are incapable of making it work
I can feel your frustration, but blaming the MFLB is just silly.. It's pretty clear what the problem is.. Burning your herb is probably your best bet.. It's pretty easy to get the hang of that

 

[llamaman001]

I think this is the same dude that was bitching a few pages about a hunting or camping trip and him having a lot of trouble finding some way to charge his batteries again. Same crappy attitude and also put all the blame on the vape itself, because it wasent his fault...

 

[Traaaaan]

I think this is the same dude that was bitching a few pages about a hunting or camping trip and him having a lot of trouble finding some way to charge his batteries again. Same crappy attitude and also put all the blame on the vape itself, because it wasent his fault...

it is the same person.

 

[KidFated.]

I'll be going fishing on Friday and I'll have my mflb, 4 batteries, and bud preground in a container ready to rock. I'll be in a kayak on the river. I never have issues loading my LB. Maybe I'll bring my vapman along too.

 

[OF]

It's hilarious to call something a POS just because you are incapable of making it work

That's great! I flashed on the scene from Blazing Saddles where Mel Brooks (as the Gov.) can't make the kid's paddle game work and says 'this thing's warped' where upon Hedley grabs it, bounces the ball perfectly and says 'right again, sir'.

Cracked me right up, I had to take my glasses off to wipe the tears away as other scenes from that truly funny movie came to mind. Who knew it had hidden lessons in vaping? All I recall is the joint.......

Thanks for the laugh.

I'll be going fishing on Friday and I'll have my mflb, 4 batteries, and bud preground in a container ready to rock. I'll be in a kayak on the river. I never have issues loading my LB. Maybe I'll bring my vapman along too.

Great plan, belt and spenders. Don't forget to bring you pole and fishing gear........

OF

 

[max]

I think this is the same dude that was bitching a few pages about a hunting or camping trip and him having a lot of trouble finding some way to charge his batteries again. Same crappy attitude and also put all the blame on the vape itself, because it wasent his fault...

It's hilarious to call something a POS just because you are incapable of making it work
I can feel your frustration, but blaming the MFLB is just silly.. It's pretty clear what the problem is.. Burning your herb is probably your best bet.. It's pretty easy to get the hang of that

I won't say that 1flyfisher doesn't have an attitude that we'd like to see improvement on, but our rules say every member deserves to be treated in a respectful manner, so if someone needs scolding you guys need to leave that to staff. He's eligible to return in a week, and if he insists on continuing to label the LB a pos, then report it and we'll issue another mandatory vacation. One product slam per member.