KidFated.
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Do a burn off. It sticks there when you shake the box.
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OF
Well-Known Member
First off, howdy, welcome to the Forum and all the fun. Good folks helping each other. IMO great choice with MFLB.
You're no doubt right, your herb is contributing. In general, the problem is too moist. This seems to lead to deposits where the moisture first condenses. It's probably also building up under the screen as well, just not enough to notice yet?
First rule, don't mess with it. No scraping. Guys start out very careful and all, but the end result is always the same. A tiny weld or two breaks and it spreads from there. Collectively they're fine, as individuals they're tiny and frail really. Very careful work with ISO (keep it off the wood.....) and swabs can reduce it, but it doesn't really effect anything and eventually will 'dry out and blow away' in most cases.
The long term fix is to keep the herb well cured and fine ground.
Regards,
OF
exsterminator
Member
Thanks for replies. I use the finishing grinder so know the grind is right so guess herb being a little too moist could be the issue. I'll try a burn off and brush first and then light ISO swab if needed.
While it looks a bit ugly, that buildup is not hampering your LB's performance. The best treatment is to just ignore it.
KidFated.
Unknown Member
I like to burn that off once in awhile with the lid open. Then blow the debris off. Never noticed any performance change
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
If it's the buildup on the "wings" of the trench it's normal, what's happening is those wings don't get heated up (only the trench part) and as the vapor swirls around inside it condenses on there a tiny bit, enough that tiny little particles of your stuff get caught on them as you draw/shake. Like everyone else said there's no performance decrease as it's not being given any power, the vaporizing is happening between the rods.
exsterminator
Member
Thanks again for all replies. Burn off and light brush cleared 90% off. Enjoying it as much as ever 
exsterminator
Member
Build up wasn't ON the wings but where the trench rolls over to the flat part. I imagine it is where the rods are running and build up was inside the trench, not outside.
Burn off cleaned it up well. Thanks for the feedback though
MichaelAB
Active Member
Considering the tight tolerances MF seems to have (I think that's a good thing, usually, as it compliments design and QC, most of the time), the one, tiny nit-pick I can find thus far is with a finishing grinder. The one I received is a little too big for it to fit into the LB's bowl: bottom lip of the finishing grinder doesn't fit into the bowl without a lot of force. It's supposed to, right? It's doubly difficult to get it out and almost requires tools. I forced it once and I won't do it again... It grinds great, it just doesn't fit into either of the two LBs that I have (one used, one new and unused; I'm in a dry climate).
It shouldn't take much sanding to get it to fit (e.g. I'm not crying a river here!), I'm just curious to know if I'm alone.
On a side note, I experience the shoulder-hump build up as well, even with very dry herb. A proper cleaning and burn off seem to help. I also--very gently--use a pipe cleaner to swab up (did I mentioned gently?) some of the accumulation under the screen. Gently. Don't poke the little light, or break the tiny, tiny, tiny wires to the bulb!
It shouldn't take much sanding to get it to fit (e.g. I'm not crying a river here!), I'm just curious to know if I'm alone.
On a side note, I experience the shoulder-hump build up as well, even with very dry herb. A proper cleaning and burn off seem to help. I also--very gently--use a pipe cleaner to swab up (did I mentioned gently?) some of the accumulation under the screen. Gently. Don't poke the little light, or break the tiny, tiny, tiny wires to the bulb!
caves
Living the vape life
I have two finishing grinders and have had two launch boxes (one warrantied). They are all compatible, though the fit varies slightly. It's believable to me that on your end your launch box hole might be slightly too small, or your finishing grinder slightly too large, or both, but a little filing will definitely do the trick.
I try not to touch the rollover buildup too much. My old box developed a micro tear there from pretty gentle brushing. The mesh over the rails is really delicate, and buildup there doesn't seem to affect performance in any notable way. Keeping your herb dry goes a long way towards preventing buildup in any vape. I like to pop a couple of silica gel packets or capsules into my herb jar. Within a few days everything is bone dry and crisp, perfect for use in the launch box.
I'd contact Magic-Flight for advice about the grinder.
Concerning cleaning: the most delicate part of the LB screen is where it bends over the heating rods. That's a good reason to not clean there, since the build-up is a cosmetic issue and not a performance one. Brushing it lightly with ISO and then heating will soften it for removal but then you have to brush it, and I for one don't think the risk is worth it.
Cleaning under the screen is also risky. The safest way to remove some of the build-up under the screen is a prolonged heating while the LB is positioned vertically upright with the inhalation hole at the bottom. The resin will soften and flow out the hole, but some will always remain. This is a messy procedure, but the good news is that you can vapourize the resin and it's pretty effective. You have to be careful not to make a mess out of end of the LB around the hole, though.
octo
What does that mean?
Hi everyone,
I have had my MFLB for about three years now, and was just interested in asking whether or not the newer models are just as good in terms of performance. I recently used a couple newer MFLB models with the different batteries and felt they did a much better job heating up the bud. Right nowI think there is a lot of internal build up under the screen/through the draw hole. Any advice would gladly be appreciated.
Thanks!
I have had my MFLB for about three years now, and was just interested in asking whether or not the newer models are just as good in terms of performance. I recently used a couple newer MFLB models with the different batteries and felt they did a much better job heating up the bud. Right nowI think there is a lot of internal build up under the screen/through the draw hole. Any advice would gladly be appreciated.
Thanks!
Krazzykid
Well-Known Member
A couple questions for you,
1. How old are your batteries? If older than 6mo-1year(depending on abuse), you will be better off with new batteries.
2. What batteries are you using, are they the new logo batteries or any of the other ones frequently mentioned in here?
The boxes do start to run a little cooler as they age and get plenty of use. As long as you keep the screen clean, box and components free from damage, clean the contact points if they get dirty/corroded, then it will continue to function properly in most cases.
If fouling gets so bad that you feel the device no longer functions as it should(and you have tried batteries that aren't warn out), simply start a warranty claim process. They are good people and will most likely replace it under warranty if performance is hindered.
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llamaman001
Well-Known Member
octo, I have both a new walnut and a 3 year old maple unit. My new walnut produces CLOUDS, my old maple gets the tiniest, whispiest hits you can imagine. Within 2 seconds on my walnut I have vapor, it takes 5 to get whispy vapor on the maple.
This is all with brand new fully charged batteries. On my maple, while using the power adapter I have to crank it up to 100% to get the same amount of power as I do at 50% on the walnut
Im actually thinking about writing in to magic flight and seeing if they will replace my old maple.
This is all with brand new fully charged batteries. On my maple, while using the power adapter I have to crank it up to 100% to get the same amount of power as I do at 50% on the walnut
Im actually thinking about writing in to magic flight and seeing if they will replace my old maple.
I reckon they probably would.
KidFated.
Unknown Member
Yup, gotta love magic flight!
caves
Living the vape life
octo
What does that mean?
My batteries are as old as the box itself. I have the same pair of stock batteries that I've been using the whole time (charged over 300 times). Additionally, I have the power adapter but still frequently have to put it to at least 75% to properly toast the bud, and even then it never gets fully brown. I think it may actually be a combination factor of the batteries and the box itself. I'm wondering what I should say to Magic Flight.
Thanks for the replies thus far.
You say exactly what you said here. There is a test you can do to determine if your LB is running cold. I'm not sure where you'd set the PA to duplicate this test, however. My guess is about 50%, and I doubt it would be as high as 75%. Magic-Flight might have some advice on that. You need to know what setting to use if you want to use it to determine whether it's the LB or the batteries.
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RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
New batteries still wouldn't hurt, I've had and have more then one PA and the dial settings vary from PA to PA and wall wart to wall wart and I always use mine at at least 75%.
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Krazzykid
Well-Known Member
Exactly as pakalolo already said. Just start a warranty process on the magic flight website.
Don't sugar coat anything, just tell them exactly the same things you have told us here. I am confident they will get you all sorted out.
You will need some new batteries for sure though. Batteries aren't a part of the warranty, so you will need to purchase new ones yourself. I recommend getting new ones every 6 months- 1 year(obviously depending on how much you use them they could last longer), we run them pretty hard in this application.
If you plan to use only the PA, then obviously you don't need new batteries. I would, however, properly dispose of those batteries you currently have. They've had a good life but it's time to retire.