CapitalFlower
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Why didn't HL put the threads near the body instead of at the end. Then you could load it easier without the herb gumming up the threads
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vapviking
Old & In the Way
The answer (I think) is hard to describe, or at least is taxing my brain atm.
If male threads were to be added farther down the body (nearer the lights), that would then require that the shaft extending from there into mouthpiece would have to be slightly smaller diameter, so the female threads on mp end could clear. Then there would need to be another 'step' or rise, if you will, inside the mouthpiece beyond the threads to match it to the body cylinder's shaft. I think the machining might be more difficult, less likely to be successful? And the extra step would take up more room, maybe even having to reduce chamber size, though that seems unlikely.
Or
Note that, the existing mouthpiece threads are started down where the conical tip begins, and so they're cut onto a slightly smaller diameter than the mp wall itself. This is a handy place to get the clearance needed for the body threads.
To quote the Frank Zappa refrain, "I may be totally wrong..."
Or, maybe you understood all this before and were just lamenting gummed up threads! Maybe H2.0 can have magnetic mouthpiece...
CapitalFlower
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Are there any smaller screens we can buy to stop herb getting sucked up into our mouth?
btka
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I did not experience this... maybe do not grinde your herb to fine....
tubasco
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I believe it's because the threads are much less likely to be dented where they are now.
If the threads were at the opening of the front end they would dent often, as the front end can simply be squeezed with fingers to be made slightly out of round.
CapitalFlower
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Do you mean on the mouthpiece?
tubasco
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If by "mouthpiece" you mean Front End, then yes.
klipsch
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@MoltenTiger This is the photo of my first hopper version (right) and my second version (left) I believe the one you linked a page back is the 2nd version or potentially the third. Unfortunately I had a crummy camera back then so I am not sure if it will help you at all.
What SN# was your first? I have a TI #92 and it looks like your 2nd version.
BuzzDanklin
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I don't remember unfortunately, they had me send back my first two versions relatively quick as they made changes and sent me the updated ones.
JoeMama
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Could also be that the threads in the mouthpiece for the mouthpiece screen are the same threads used to attach to the body; if the threads on the body were lower, then the mouthpiece threads would have to continue down (up?) towards the opening. There would be more threads than necessary and to remove the mouthpiece screen you'd have a LOT more turns to make to unscrew it all the way out or back in.
tubasco
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They are indeed the same threads, but hear me out: if you pinch the big opening of the front end it bends. Now imagine threads at that spot.
The way the front end is currently allows it to be screwed onto the body even if the big end is slightly warped, which DOES happen. (The last warranty Front End I received was a little squished from shipping, but once I was able to slide it onto the body it threaded perfectly.)
CapitalFlower
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Since its all convection do you think it matters if you don't grind up the herb at all? Just pull off buds?
Roland Blaze
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After 2 months of very careful use my Grasshopper has gone again (3rd time). This time just red light and nothing else happens.
Kept it immaculate, deoxit gold, blue tak, kept in 3d printed case when not in use...etc.. you name it (as i did with it last 2 times also and it still broke) and yet it's gone again. I call bullshit on all these methods .. just vapour being blown up our arses... (please see vid for explanation of my arse comment, it will make more sense, and is actually Quite Interesting
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Dont waste your money on dexoit etc.. your just wasting your money, and think very carefully before purchasing one especially if you live in the UK as its very likely going to waste alot of your time and money.
Vent over.. time to break out the tried and trusted Arizer Air...
Kept it immaculate, deoxit gold, blue tak, kept in 3d printed case when not in use...etc.. you name it (as i did with it last 2 times also and it still broke) and yet it's gone again. I call bullshit on all these methods .. just vapour being blown up our arses... (please see vid for explanation of my arse comment, it will make more sense, and is actually Quite Interesting
)Dont waste your money on dexoit etc.. your just wasting your money, and think very carefully before purchasing one especially if you live in the UK as its very likely going to waste alot of your time and money.
Vent over.. time to break out the tried and trusted Arizer Air...
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vapviking
Old & In the Way
That's bold! but just maybe close to the mark...
JoeMama
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I think it does matter; a bud has thickness/diameter. And while it may have apparent surface area for a few hits worth of vapor, the penetration of heated air through the bud is virtually nil. So that means you gotta crank it on 5 and waste a lot of heat energy just to get the insides of the bud to extract.
tubasco
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Damn! Sorry you're dealing with yet another loss!
Out of curiosity: did you often adjust temps?
(I have a theory that the battery contact inside the body is only a gold plating, directly onto the circuit board, and over time with the temp dial twisting this coating wears off to the point that it doesn't conduct enough to heat the unit.)
Roland Blaze
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Ahh thanks.. your very kind...
Yup I did indeed, would step up by 1 notch after few hits from each upto about 3.5-4 then hit it on the glass (not litterally.. lol) on 5 to get every last bit out.
On looking at mine tho with a torch I can see that the inside of the body is like it was on day one, not to say though that might not be happening with some other Grasshoppers possibly.
BadDog No
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jjL5590 asked:
Since its all convection do you think it matters if you don't grind up the herb at all? Just pull off buds?
I remember at least one 'hopper poster from way back who found great success just packing little buds. In fact two major (well, for the vaping community) manufacturers recommend not grinding your herb. Admittedly we're in the minority, but some of us have given up grinding. Oh that would be the Supreme and eNano folks recommending buds over grind. And of course YMMV.
Oh, major disclaimer: I actually haven't tried bud packing in a hopper yet but it works like a charm in the Milaana and FF and Supreme and even the EQ so that's naturally going to be the way I try it. Usually I'll get a few pulls and then dump the buds out and just use my fingers to remove any wood and repack. Possible that as small a bowl as the 'Hopper has I'll have to do a rough tear of my bud and pack that instead. My address confirmation is due next week so I'm actually daring to fantasize about owning one. I'll probably be buying accessories too...
Since its all convection do you think it matters if you don't grind up the herb at all? Just pull off buds?
I remember at least one 'hopper poster from way back who found great success just packing little buds. In fact two major (well, for the vaping community) manufacturers recommend not grinding your herb. Admittedly we're in the minority, but some of us have given up grinding. Oh that would be the Supreme and eNano folks recommending buds over grind. And of course YMMV.
Oh, major disclaimer: I actually haven't tried bud packing in a hopper yet but it works like a charm in the Milaana and FF and Supreme and even the EQ so that's naturally going to be the way I try it. Usually I'll get a few pulls and then dump the buds out and just use my fingers to remove any wood and repack. Possible that as small a bowl as the 'Hopper has I'll have to do a rough tear of my bud and pack that instead. My address confirmation is due next week so I'm actually daring to fantasize about owning one. I'll probably be buying accessories too...
moondog
It's an obsession but it's pleasin'
My first load ever on my hopper was with a pinched off bud. The second was with a load I ground up by hand. Just broke things apart into a fluffy pile. The difference in vapor production and flavor was very noticeable with the ground load being much more productive on all fronts.
Sorry that you're having so many hurtin' hoppers, but it seems to me that the arse-blown methods have proven quite successful for a number of folks. Doesn't mean they're the cure-all for every issue, though. Did your hopper fail the same way each of the three times? Which parts did GHL replace the first two times?
Still knockin' on all kinds of wood here because so far both my hoppers seem to be working fine with cucumber cool back ends, so I haven't had to try any fixes. I did use Blu Tack and iso on threads as part of the initial out-of-the-box cleaning but I highly doubt I'll be using any of the chemical approaches.
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My opinion so far of this pen is other than impressive heat up (for a dry herb device), I have not yet been blown away.
Perhaps I've been using a concentrate pen to fill this role of "discrete portability" for so long I'm expecting too much.
Perhaps I've been using a concentrate pen to fill this role of "discrete portability" for so long I'm expecting too much.
tubasco
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I'll bet you have the "checkerboard" wear pattern on the gold circle. If you look at a brand new hopper's contact (right where the positive tip of the battery touches) you'll see that it has almost like a scratch-off lottery ticket look to it.
Roland Blaze
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LMAO @ "arse-blown methods"
Sorry but have to question your statement there.. How do you know these methods for preventing the hopper breaking were successful for a number of folks at all? Impossible.. they don't even know. If it never breaks how will you know if you were lucky and your grashopper was a good one, or it was you standing on your head while whistling dixie that kept it working, or whatever nonsence some peeps believe keeps it functional. The fact people have said they did something and it hasn't broke yet is far from proof.. hence the blowing vapour comment (please see the vid if you haven't already it's pretty educational and funny).
Your mention of "cure-all" makes no sense either, if their hoppers never broke why would you need to try a cure-all? I never mentioned trying any fixes or mentioned fixes at all before you try that one...lol, only methods to keep the hopper from not breaking in the first place.
Just to add tho if you meant the fixes then I think the those will definately be useful for some people as they can be tested and proven over time to work or not work.
In answer to your questions (I know.. about time..)
1. Nope, different each time. Flashing red blue first time, just blue lights only second time, 3rd time only red lights.
2. Body was changed each time and got the hopper working perfectly for a few months each time.
Cheers, but I know exactly what you meant as i've been through this entire thread and seen the posts on the wearing of battery contacts by turning the temp dial. As previously stated mine looks pretty much as good as when the replacement body came about 2 months ago and is very much still gold plated (if it is gold that is?).
Hammahead
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I had the same experience as @moondog and @BadDog No, and I think @JoeMama explained it just brilliantly.
I hear you in regards to the outside world stealth factor. The idea of sucking on a big-a55 pen with an ever more yellowish "plastic" tip (I know my silicone) in public never really had me sold. I rather carry my e-cig clones there. I just love the raw power of this thing, not only super fast heat up time, but also I inhale the vapour of the whole bowl in record time with just so many tokes.