Discontinued The Grasshopper
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2clicker
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maybe to session with yourself or another person, but im talking about passing it around to multiple people and not having to turn it off. this vape is not designed for that.
i also have other session vapes, but none that are this small and in this form factor. id like a vape like this that can do BOTH session or quickly medicate. surely this can be done.
im not saying the current grasshopper isnt a nice vape. clearly it is. just that i would like to see them build upon that with a larger unit meant for real sessions.
not to mention an 18650 will last a lot longer than the GH current cell. i do not feel that something like a mechanical mod is too large. perfect IMO.
killick
But I like it!
@2clicker I hear you loud and clear. Maybe thats their next release? Regardless, I'm really looking forward to the GH as a replacement for the INH. I don't really think about party vaping as I only really vape with 1 or 2 people who drop by, nothing too wild and crazy, so this particular unit will be great for me riding around in my pocket and being ready to go any old time. Have you looked at the Zion for an 18650 session vape? It looks like it would work great for a party, provided it doesn't get dropped.
How long did it take to get to you after ordering?Got my water tool adapter today, can't wait to use it with my gh
PS: bought from sunshinestore @dhgate
lovecrush
http://goo.gl/EsKJzJ
I ordered it 03/06 (june)
edit: i'm bad at math, corrected the post
and I should add that the item was in my city waiting for me to pay the taxes in the post office since day 6 of this month... sooo... about a month to receive it, I believe
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Old School
Vape13man
I do believe you will find it can be a very nice session vaporizer... IMO the design is very capable of delivering session type performance with little effort.... the challenge as it will always be with a convection vaporizer is that gosh darn heat...... so although I would agree all that on and off business is a pain at the moment it is what it is..... so perhaps all we really need is a better timing method... or we could as you suggested.. just go back to a mechanical control {button} but I think that's been played out....and it requires user concentration when it's the 1st thing to leave....LOL
I'd love to see a timer on the inhalation duration..... this way we could control how long the heater will be allowed to provide us with the convectional heat needed but then at a determined time the heater cuts out....this way the remaining heat can be drawn from the entire device as a whole and that evacuation heat I will call it....will be used to further mix and expand our inhalation cloud....
Once each user finds or develops a way or method to deal with the eventual "Too Hot to Handle" issue we will have no problem using it as a session vaporizer..... for now a quick click off about 2/3rds of the way through your inhalation should do wonders.....
This brings back some really good memories from a few summers ago when I learned about FC and preordered my first vape (a faulty DaVinci Ascent). I hope this is a better situation for consumers when it's finally out en masse.
Mr. Me2
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Does everyone remember Buzz's 1st video testing the gh with his roommate? They pretty consistently forgot to shut it off between pulls and went through several ovens. That looked like a session to me!I do believe you will find it can be a very nice session vaporizer... IMO the design is very capable of delivering session type performance with little effort.... the challenge as it will always be with a convection vaporizer is that gosh darn heat...... so although I would agree all that on and off business is a pain at the moment it is what it is..... so perhaps all we really need is a better timing method... or we could as you suggested.. just go back to a mechanical control {button} but I think that's been played out....and it requires user concentration when it's the 1st thing to leave....LOL
I'd love to see a timer on the inhalation duration..... this way we could control how long the heater will be allowed to provide us with the convectional heat needed but then at a determined time the heater cuts out....this way the remaining heat can be drawn from the entire device as a whole and that evacuation heat I will call it....will be used to further mix and expand our inhalation cloud....
Once each user finds or develops a way or method to deal with the eventual "Too Hot to Handle" issue we will have no problem using it as a session vaporizer..... for now I quick click off about 2/3rds of the way through your inhalation should do wonders.....
2clicker
Observer
I do believe you will find it can be a very nice session vaporizer... IMO the design is very capable of delivering session type performance with little effort.... the challenge as it will always be with a convection vaporizer is that gosh darn heat...... so although I would agree all that on and off business is a pain at the moment it is what it is..... so perhaps all we really need is a better timing method... or we could as you suggested.. just go back to a mechanical control {button} but I think that's been played out....and it requires user concentration when it's the 1st thing to leave....LOL
I'd love to see a timer on the inhalation duration..... this way we could control how long the heater will be allowed to provide us with the convectional heat needed but then at a determined time the heater cuts out....this way the remaining heat can be drawn from the entire device as a whole and that evacuation heat I will call it....will be used to further mix and expand our inhalation cloud....
Once each user finds or develops a way or method to deal with the eventual "Too Hot to Handle" issue we will have no problem using it as a session vaporizer..... for now a quick click off about 2/3rds of the way through your inhalation should do wonders.....
im sure turning it off and on works well, but its clearly still warming up from the videos ive seen even when doing so. the video TVS posted shows his friend take two rips and mention its getting warm. imagine ripping it 30-40 times (multiple loads and possibly a cell change) w/out waiting minutes in between each rip. that thing is going to get hot.
regardless i still want this vape in a larger form factor due to cell capacity and bowl size.
i have, but the zion is not a cylindrical shape and not easily pocketable. not near as convenient.
make a larger grasshopper... maybe name it the cricket lol... and there you go. i just dont see myself needing those super quick discreet flower rips. ive got concentrates for that use of which is far more discreet than the GH.
so i will wait to see what they come up with next. of course only after all of you dedicated backers get your GH orders!
Kalessin
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As far as I know, grasshoppers are almost always bigger than crickets
HillaryClinton
Future ruler of earth
Just Justin
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Yeah the mouthpiece has been carefully designed to handle the thermal load and I think it does a great job. I hardly never use the silicone mouthpiece unless I am using it with friends. The screen can definitely get clogged but the cones are another story, I have not had that happen but It could for sure. Vapor really doesn't pass through the second, metal cone except for the very tip of it. The first cone takes most of the heat and vapor so that one really doesn't get dirty. It's not necessary to take the mouthpiece apart to get it clean but it would help, as you can see, there are a few parts in there for residue to hide...I hope Hopper Labs will offer that tool for purchase!
nonbeliever
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I didn't get the Grasshopper for a session vape - more for a one hitter alternative. However, aside from volume in the oven - couldn't an easy way to address the heat of the metal problem just get a couple of inches of silicone tubing large enough to be a sleeve (maybe sliced down the middle for easy on and off) in the middle - silicon at the tip and between the fingers... poof - Grasshopper "session" vape?
2clicker
Observer
not here in STL. the grasshoppers are green and small. crickets are black and get as larges as cock roaches. you may run across a grasshopper that is as large as the crickets, but i hardly ever see them.
im no bug expert tho!
"The main difference between a grasshopper and a cricket is that crickets tend to have long antennae, grasshoppers have short antennae. Crickets stridulate ("sing") by rubbing their wings together, while grasshoppers stridulate by rubbing their long hind legs against their wings."
or they could just call it something else. lol
right. you got it as a one hitter style vape. and that design is what is keeping me from copping one. id like to see a hopper that is designed to be used either way. obviously that means a larger capacity bowl and cell.
just thinking out loud folks. i am not belittling the GH. it looks great. just not there for me yet.
Kalessin
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Hmm. It's exactly the opposite here. I have seen grasshoppers nearly as small as the crickets we have here, but I've never seen a cricket even nearly as big as our regular sized grasshoppers Edit: Also, our crickets and roaches are about the same size, but the grasshoppers are generally almost twice their size.
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tubasco
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Maybe I'm just being a conspiracy theorist, but the verbiage in the new eBay listing is oddly similar to the listing of the hopper that just sold... is it me or is that kind of strange?
this one is listed as being from San Francisco and the last one from LA, CA.
2clicker
Observer
well i am a city slicker so maybe the grasshoppers in the city are just smaller...?
i have seen large grasshoppers in more rural areas that are quite large and fly. the ones around my place are small and dont fly.
oh hell... enough derailing. sorry folks!
FizzNuggets
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Early bird with no charging cable? Thought that was for holiday backers?
tubasco
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i just compared the 2 listings. the second seller merely copy and pasted from the first listing... BUT they left in the part about "One small disclosure, the unit arrived with some very minor cosmetic surface scuffs, which I've tried to show in the photos," ...which i find sketchy since the new listing only has one (blurry) photo...
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FizzNuggets
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Anyone on here have their hopper show up with scratches like these? I understand stainless scratches but I feel it should arrive fairly clean, then I will commence scratching.
tubasco
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I really think the "scratches" only applies to the first listing. The second one likely isn't scratched since talk of being scratched is copy and pasted from the first eBay listing...