Discontinued The Grasshopper

[Icon13]

I have been using Li-ion batteries for a few years now in e-cigs and I have a few recommendations regarding battery /charging. Im not a reviewer or expert but I do try and look up information and these are some of the things I have found. 1) Do not leave batteries that are charging unattended and remove them from the charger when done. They do have the possibility of venting. Not a big possibility with a good charger and good batteries but even if you think they are good they might have a problem or be counterfeits. They sell LiPo charging bags that will contain the gases if a battery vents. I haven't used them but they are out there. 2) Check your batteries when being charged or used and if they are too hot to touch. You have a problem. Stop doing whatever you are doing. 3) Don't charge or use a hot battery. If you have just been using a battery and it is now hot let it cool before charging. If you have just been charging a battery and it is hot let it cool down before using. A battery that is getting too hot to touch indicates a problem with the battery or charger 4) Never use a battery with a damaged wrapper. Rewrap or dispose of it. 5) Always carry you batteries safely. Use a case or something that will protect the battery from shorting out. E-cigs have been dealing with battery issues for 5-6 years and the flashlight guys even longer hopefully we can learn from the past and vape safe. Most accidents I see on the internet about vaping are user error. I know I tend to ramble on but I'm old and using a Grasshopper a deadly combination.


Where are we going to get more film canisters. I never thought to save them and I only have 2 left. I sent most of mine away for processing and never thought about it. My ABV resides in a black Kodak one. Heavy ziplock looks great for the batteries and it does make a nifty funnel.

The purpose of a lithium charging bag is not to contain the gases, but to contain a fire. The bags are flame retardant. That is why you would use one. It will prevent your house from burning down.

Yes there is a "low" charge setting. When you insert 4 GHBs in there it defaults to charge Lithium Ion batts at 375mA, but when it's switched to "low" it drops to 150. When doing only 1 or 2 batteries all the mA numbers are doubled, so I always wait till I have at least 3 batteries to charge.

I use a lot of eneloop AAs too, and you can mix and match battery types which is nice.

Thanks @Icon13 for the info. I guess I'll only use the "low" mA rate when charging 1 or 2 batts and just go with the default rate when charging 3 or 4.

EDIT: @JoeMama , there is a button on the left side. The front of the button is the cursor to select which battery bay, and the back of the button, when held down, sets the selected bay into "low" mA mode.

I think you missed my point. Charging at the low rate, regardless of how many batteries you are doing, is pretty much pointless. All of the charge rates that your charger can provide are considered low and in the grand scheme of things, you will be just fine always charging at the higher rate, and you will not have to wait for your batteries to charge as long.

Furthermore, what charger you use is far more important than 500mAh vs 1Ah. A good charger will slow the charge down significantly towards the end of a charge, and never actually charge the cell to its fullest capacity. Example, my charger cuts my batteries off at 4.15 V. They never get to 4.2 V. Overcharging is actually very bad for batteries and will reduce their life.

 

[lazylathe]

Time for a video update!!
This was to test it's vapor output using my RooR 9" tube! Lots of volume to fill!

Grasshopper 1 - Me 0

 

[Chose]

Happy birthday my hopper will be one year old tomorrow I've got her a present two new battery's
Sweeeeet

 

[almost there]

Happy birthday my hopper will be one year old tomorrow I've got her a present two new battery's
Sweeeeet

Your hopper says it wants a sibling, lol. happy birthday!

 

[biohacker]

Happy birthday my hopper will be one year old tomorrow I've got her a present two new battery's
Sweeeeet

Happy Birthday to your little one! And how has your GH's health been over the first year?

 

[Mr. Me2]

Happy birthday my hopper will be one year old tomorrow I've got her a present two new battery's
Sweeeeet

Hoppy birthday!

 

[Chose]

Happy Birthday to your little one! And how has your GH's health been over the first year?

Good Iv had a hot back end and flickering lights right out the box but no warranty claim
The first few months I always felt stressed it may fail couldn't stand the thought of not having it for a month or two
I live in the uk so I didn't want to send it back after a two year wait to be told your back end is within tolerencre
And waiste time
So no major problems that can't be irond out with user best practice
I find poor performance comes from battery deteriation
And have gone through about ten to twelve batts
Battery's have bean the only thing I would say have disappointed me I wish there was a power adapter for this device for home use
So my year long review would say
Stealth can't beet it Iv used it in bars at the beach in restaurant s in plain view right in front of CCTV cams no one batts an eye lid ultimate stealth vape
Also no smell at all you can use it getting a beer from the fridge ten to fifteen seconds done
Nobody will ever now you've had a quick vape awesome
Now that pre orders are down
To a few Weeks and the tech is more current
Once they hit emediate shipping I ll order that purple ti I've wanted and held back on and I then will send my ss to the lab for inspection
Peace
Think il load a chamber and chill with my old hopper
I hope this post makes sence I find it hard to write posts I am dyslexic
And proud
So bear with me
Some times I can't understand it myself
So yes the hopper is a great vape let's hope they can work out the bugs then I would say every one who vapes should get one

 

[lazylathe]

Night 2 with the Hopper and we are now getting along like old friends!
I start at just past 4 and finish off at 5.
That first hit has so much vapor output, it actually outperforms my Cloudenstein vape!
Flavor is pretty good at that temp, much better with lower settings.
Second hit is kind of meh with not much going on, it's all in the first hit.
Learning to load the oven according to temp setting is crucial for one hit extractions.
I find i maximize everything this way, flavor, effects and of course, this is the Grasshopper after all, clouds upon clouds!!!
If i plan my hit carefully and use the cycle through a load method of clicking on for a hit and then off and finish hit and continue at that setting till no vapor, i can keep the hit in and only exhale a tiny puff of vapor. This tiny vaporizer can have extreme medicating effects when used correctly!

Still making my mind up about these batteries!
For one session i use 2 1/2 batteries and then it is full halt and charge everything again.

I was chatting to @biohacker about this the other day:
Imagine a new back end that had the temp dial as well as a fake battery, all this is connected to an external power source.
A true Hybrid vape!
A killer desktop as well as a portable with batteries and regular back end!
I thought that would be sweet!

Anyway this vape has two thumbs up even with the battery issue! LOL!
Cloud chasers, flavor chasers and anyone in between will enjoy this vaporizer!

 

[biohacker]

For one session i use 2 1/2 batteries and then it is full halt and charge everything again.

In no time you will dial down your technique and learn the GH more and you'll get your session with 1 battery charge i'm sure of it. I can get 3-4 bowls out of a battery fairly easily, and I see your hits are pretty close to mine

 

[natural farmer]

Night 2 with the Hopper and we are now getting along like old friends!
I start at just past 4 and finish off at 5.
That first hit has so much vapor output, it actually outperforms my Cloudenstein vape!
Flavor is pretty good at that temp, much better with lower settings.
Second hit is kind of meh with not much going on, it's all in the first hit.
Learning to load the oven according to temp setting is crucial for one hit extractions.
I find i maximize everything this way, flavor, effects and of course, this is the Grasshopper after all, clouds upon clouds!!!
If i plan my hit carefully and use the cycle through a load method of clicking on for a hit and then off and finish hit and continue at that setting till no vapor, i can keep the hit in and only exhale a tiny puff of vapor. This tiny vaporizer can have extreme medicating effects when used correctly!

Still making my mind up about these batteries!
For one session i use 2 1/2 batteries and then it is full halt and charge everything again.

I was chatting to @biohacker about this the other day:
Imagine a new back end that had the temp dial as well as a fake battery, all this is connected to an external power source.
A true Hybrid vape!
A killer desktop as well as a portable with batteries and regular back end!
I thought that would be sweet!

Anyway this vape has two thumbs up even with the battery issue! LOL!
Cloud chasers, flavor chasers and anyone in between will enjoy this vaporizer!

Glad you like your Hopper buddy! Can you compare the vapor production to that of the Supreme please?

 

[Icon13]

@biohacker

Grasshopper testing night ONE!

Charged up the batteries and loaded some Shark's breath into the GH.
Used my GR8TR with a fine plate since i only own the one plate...LOL!
Set the GH on 5 and hit the button, few seconds to BLUE!!
WOW this thing is FAST.... Faster than the Herbalizer!!
First hit was whispy but tasted great!!
Second hit was out of this world with vapor production!! I had to click off before the load was done and even then, i could not clear the GH or the WT!!
That second hot tasted kind of burnt towards the end and the ABV had some very dark specs in it.

There is a slight learning curve with this vape in regards to grind and how hard you should draw.
Still figuring out the draw... This vape packs a punch and makes testing hard...LMAO!!

All in all i had 3 bowls last night in the GH and that was enough! The 2nd and 3rd bowls were not fully packed either.
I tried temps from 3.5 all the way up to 5 and have not found my ideal setting yet.
5 is like the kamikaze setting!! You better have huge lungs to clear the bowl!

Now to the important stuff for me!
Flavor!! This vape is a flavor beast!! It is like my RooR Vapor in regards to flavor and then like my Sublimator with regards to clouds and density!
Easy to pack and unload and so far the threads seem to be nice and clean!
I wipe out the bowl after every bowl with a q-tip and then blow out the nosecone and give it a wipe as well.

One thing i absolutely hate is exchangeable batteries in a vape!!
My Milaana did not last too long because of this issue as well...
Will see how i do with the GH over time but i am assuming i will keep it due to it's raw power!!!
I am also loving the NO HOTSPOTS in the load!!! Nice and even ABV!

There was a lot of talk about using external charges that are damaging batteries.
This is what i have been doing:
I have the Nitecore D4 charger and set it to LOW when i add the GH batteries.
The charger screen says they are at 4.20V when complete.
I then place the batteries one at a time in the Hopper and complete the charge using the magnetic charger. The batteries charge for a few minutes more with blinking RED and the i get the blinking BLUE light. So it seems that the D4 actually undercharges a bit and the GH charger tops them off nicely.

Will be testing again later today and will see how the batteries are liking this charging method.
So far so good with the GH!

Not really the best idea. Your batteries are done when the Nitcore says, especially if they read 4.2V. Any further charging is just forcing more juice into the battery's capacity. This risks overcharging. It may take the OEM charger a minute to realize the battery was already full. You might not notice in the short run, but you are risking shortening the longevity of your cells in the long run. Do what you want, but I personally wouldn't do that.

 

[slick]

So I've had my hopper for a few months now. Recently the vapor production has been thin and wispy. I want my milking device back. Probably related to a hot back end. The issue was fixed by doing something I heard worked, I think it was suggested by a nice fellow by the same of Chubby something. I took the back end by my little hand and went like this
Eh ah twist baby, baby twist. Seemed to fix its self for a bit. Am doomed to envok the name of might Warrantor, the God of warranties?

 

[MoltenTiger]

Not really the best idea. Your batteries are done when the Nitcore says, especially if they read 4.2V. Any further charging is just forcing more juice into the battery's capacity. This risks overcharging. It may take the OEM charger a minute to realize the battery was already full. You might not notice in the short run, but you are risking shortening the longevity of your cells in the long run. Do what you want, but I personally wouldn't do that.

This is ultimately why I am liking my MC2, it charges to 4.20V, or at least closer to it than the Nitecores.

We want to be using 4.2V batteries, which is why the OEM charger pumps them to that level. If I put a day old charged (MC2) battery (so guaranteed to have slightly discharged) it takes about 3 or 4 red flashes on the OEM charger before it gets to blue flashes.
Straight off the charger it instantly goes blue.
If it takes a minute or more straight off the Nitecore, this is exactly why I've been saying to look at different brands (because they don't do that)

 

[biohacker]

So it looks like my 3 RMA GH's are on their way back to me! So all in all took them exactly the business week to process, which is more than acceptable especially since it included some back and forth dialogue (thanks for the tips on how @vapviking!) and purchase of the 3 allowed free shipping batteries. All 3 GH's are getting new backends and my og ti is getting a new front end as well (stripped threads).

Just this morning my SS was intermittently going straight to blue no heat, so i'm hoping the RMA's arrive before the SS goes! Can't wait....new backends and new batteries oh my!

Another night with an incredible GH experience....I now appreciate a finer grind for the super easy dense clouds, and very lightly filled for superior airflow and bong snapping ability! I was finding it was defeating me every single time I filled up the bowl too much! Love ripping the hopper in one go with glass!

Warranty experience was awesome!! My biggest fear (that they thought they worked to spec) was a waste of time! If you have a burning hot end, send it in! Thanks @guyonthecouch for convincing me to RMA them with your insider info! ;-)

 

[lazylathe]

This is ultimately why I am liking my MC2, it charges to 4.20V, or at least closer to it than the Nitecores.

We want to be using 4.2V batteries, which is why the OEM charger pumps them to that level. If I put a day old charged (MC2) battery (so guaranteed to have slightly discharged) it takes about 3 or 4 red flashes on the OEM charger before it gets to blue flashes.
Straight off the charger it instantly goes blue.
If it takes a minute or more straight off the Nitecore, this is exactly why I've been saying to look at different brands (because they don't do that)

I use the low charging option on my D4 and when i place them in the Hopper and use the magnetic charger, they can charge for another 5 to 10 minutes before the lights flash blue.
The screen says 4.20V on the D4.

I am going to try using them straight off the D4 and see what the results are like.

Thanks for all the battery info!!!

 

[biohacker]

I am going to try using them straight off the D4 and see what the results are like.

I personally have the same charger and experimenting with both techniques yesterday and did not notice a difference myself! Neither charge to over 4.2v so i'm not too concerned....heck, I sometimes pull them off at 4.15v or so and still get huge clouds. Dude, i'm noticing a pretty big difference in vapour output just using Tweed strains vs thcd.... the bud quality/cure is huge with this vape!

 

[lazylathe]

Glad you like your Hopper buddy! Can you compare the vapor production to that of the Supreme please?

That's a tough question!!

Using the S3 the regular way with the tube inserted and loaded and then heated, i think it produces way thicker vapor that the GH.
The GH takes a while to produce vapor while the S3 is almost immediate after the heat up time.
I think the S3 vapor is also a lot denser than the GH.
Flavor wise, if you are careful they are both about the same.

Also take into consideration:
GH is pure convection power
S3 is a mix of convection, conduction and radiant heat all rolled into one.

As mentioned by @biohacker above, this vape is also greatly affected by quality of material!
I noticed this yesterday as well with some strains choking me out and others i could handle a full load.

 

[Chose]

@slcbdco
I'm getting bored of my e cig
And want to try some tobacco in my hopper
What type do you use in your hopper ????
Thanx

 

[slcbdco]

@slcbdco
I'm getting bored of my e cig
And want to try some tobacco in my hopper
What type do you use in your hopper ????
Thanx

I use American Spirit rolling tobaco from the can.

Might I recommmend starting at like temp 2 and not very much, perhaps mixed with some cannabis or other herbs, maybe it was just me but I found the tobaco effect very strong the first time.


The taste of vaped lead tobaco is great though and i ended up getting a Davinci IQ for the really sole purpose of vaping tobaco, I mix it with herbs and cannabis, sorta like a space hippie spliff. I use that blend in my grasshoppper too if I need a quick pick me up, have fun experimenting with it but as they say start low, go slow!

 

[Baron23]

@slcbdco
I'm getting bored of my e cig
And want to try some tobacco in my hopper
What type do you use in your hopper ????
Thanx

I beg you as a former 41-year Marlboro Red nicotine addict, don't get started with tobacco, please.

 

[Hjalmark]

I remember throwing up for couple of minutes after vaping tobacco from a Malborough cigarettes 2 years ago when I quit smoking...

FYI I was pretty drunk

 

[Chose]

I beg you as a former 41-year Marlboro Red nicotine addict, don't get started with tobacco, please.

Yes I gave in smoking three years ago and feel great for it
I smoked for 32 years
But some times ( not to often)
I REALY fancy a smoke I miss that roasted flavour
Some. Times I almost can't resist and want a big fat cigar
But I don't want to go back there I now it's wrong but it's a strong pull tobacco is
Even though it's truly discusting
Thanx for your concern
Posty came today with my two new battery's how bisare on my hoppers 1st birthday it's very serial
I've toped them off and will be using very soon
Nothing beats a brand new fully charged battery
Clouds will be massive
Gb2 coooom on

 

[spoutti]

Hey guys, my gh ressussitation only lasted 1 day afterall. I RMAed it and got it back quickly imho, 16 days total including 3 weekends. I took my time sending it back, I got it back thursday. Man I missed it! Having a big thick hit feels much more satisfying than many wispy clouds with the same amount on the solo.

Since I use it 99.99% through water, I will make it a point to always keep my gh mouth piece down. Im hoping to avoid resin obstructing the temp sensor this way.

@biohacker : I thought it was part of my gh honeymoon, gh vapor being less irritating to my lungs. I got back to my solo vape (through bubbler) use during my gh downtime and have the same experience again. Binging on my gh, less throat irritation the next day.

 

[biohacker]

Trust me I know, I just recently did the same thing and test drove the Solo and it's gross in comparison to the GH! Super irritating and just an old dino IMO. Like you i'm mostly through water, and am going to start paying attention to the orientation of the GH a little more carefully....i've been using a hydratube recently and that's going to end.

Happy to hear that your RMA is awesome! I think mine will be about 21 days turnaround altogether which is still not bad.

 

[Chose]

Trust me I know, I just recently did the same thing and test drove the Solo and it's gross in comparison to the GH! Super irritating and just an old dino IMO. Like you i'm mostly through water, and am going to start paying attention to the orientation of the GH a little more carefully....i've been using a hydratube recently and that's going to end.

Happy to hear that your RMA is awesome! I think mine will be about 21 days turnaround altogether which is still not bad.

The solo was a cool vape back in the day I re booted mine with a 40 quid high capatisy battery but haven't tried it yet
Too slow and leaks smell in to the room
I haven't got time to session vape but ime glad I have one
Maybe one day I'll dig it out for a slow tasty sesh
Tiranosouruos x sesh