Discontinued The Grasshopper
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Mister G
Deceptively Old Fart
Thank you for pointing out some differences others haven't covered as much, such as the feel in the hand (although subjective) and the smoother button action (less subjective). Good to know the SS has some potential positives over Ti for those considering either.
HoustonGuide
Active Member
I just posted this on Reddit:
Last Monday I received a small. discreet, plain brown package from Hopper Labs. It contained a bronze titanium hopper, serial number GT000079.
Has my life changed? A little.
Mainly, I'm no longer obsessed, checking my email and coming here two and three times a day. I miss it a little. In the wise words of Mr. Spock, "After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."
What you want to know is, does it live up to the hype? The answer (from me, at least) is, pretty much. The hopper I got was in good shape, no scratches or dings. The color is not perfectly uniform, but that's nit picking. The mouthpiece does get hot, but I haven't used the silicon session extender because I also ordered the SS case (not shipped yet) and, since it won't fit into the case with the mouthpiece on, I've decided not to use it.
The heat problem is easily solved with proper technique. The first thing I tried was to click on, wait for blue lights, then inhale until the heat started to be uncomfortable, then click off and complete the inhale. It cools pretty quickly once it's clicked off, and is fine by the time I go for the next inhale.
My second method, and the one I settled on, is to simply NOT press the mouthpiece against my lips, but put the entire tip in my mouth with my lips closing above the taper. This way, it never gets uncomfortable at all (to me, at least).
People have noted that there aren't many owners posting here and on FC except those with problems. I think that the reason for that is simple. The content on both places is mostly people upset about the wait time, conspiracy theories as to why the wait time is so long, dire predictions about the future, people asking about whether they should order a GH, and people warning potential buyers off. And a sprinkling of people saying that they got theirs and it was worth the wait.
Once you have a working Hopper, that all becomes irrelevant and kinda depressing. My only motives for coming back are for news on the SS cases, and to post messages like this which say "Hold on, it's coming, and the hype is real." And I expect a few people to accuse me of being a fanboy or outright shill.
My other motive is that I want the Grasshopper to succeed. The early evidence is that they are excellent about replacing defective Hoppers. Mine is working fine, but it's early days yet, and I want them to be around when and if I need them, The life time warranty means that I will have a working Hopper FOR AS LONG AS HOPPER LABS IS IN BUSINESS. Therefore, I resent the people who are actively warning off new buyers. I have no special information about the company, but it seems to me that this could be a particularly dangerous time for them. I'm sure that they've used up the original backers money by now, so the cash flow from pre-orders is likely what's funding assembly. Should that dry up, the company might be in trouble. So, people who are waiting on their Hoppers who are warning off new buyers might be sinking their own ships.
Not saying that everyone should be telling folks to come on board necessarily, but that warning everyone off might be shooting yourself in your own foot.
Bottom line - I'm happy with my Hopper - it's much better than my old iolite - faster, more efficient, and much more discreet. My advice is to suck it up, keep calm, and carry on - I really believe that you'll be happy with yours when it arrives.
Last Monday I received a small. discreet, plain brown package from Hopper Labs. It contained a bronze titanium hopper, serial number GT000079.
Has my life changed? A little.
Mainly, I'm no longer obsessed, checking my email and coming here two and three times a day. I miss it a little. In the wise words of Mr. Spock, "After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."
What you want to know is, does it live up to the hype? The answer (from me, at least) is, pretty much. The hopper I got was in good shape, no scratches or dings. The color is not perfectly uniform, but that's nit picking. The mouthpiece does get hot, but I haven't used the silicon session extender because I also ordered the SS case (not shipped yet) and, since it won't fit into the case with the mouthpiece on, I've decided not to use it.
The heat problem is easily solved with proper technique. The first thing I tried was to click on, wait for blue lights, then inhale until the heat started to be uncomfortable, then click off and complete the inhale. It cools pretty quickly once it's clicked off, and is fine by the time I go for the next inhale.
My second method, and the one I settled on, is to simply NOT press the mouthpiece against my lips, but put the entire tip in my mouth with my lips closing above the taper. This way, it never gets uncomfortable at all (to me, at least).
People have noted that there aren't many owners posting here and on FC except those with problems. I think that the reason for that is simple. The content on both places is mostly people upset about the wait time, conspiracy theories as to why the wait time is so long, dire predictions about the future, people asking about whether they should order a GH, and people warning potential buyers off. And a sprinkling of people saying that they got theirs and it was worth the wait.
Once you have a working Hopper, that all becomes irrelevant and kinda depressing. My only motives for coming back are for news on the SS cases, and to post messages like this which say "Hold on, it's coming, and the hype is real." And I expect a few people to accuse me of being a fanboy or outright shill.
My other motive is that I want the Grasshopper to succeed. The early evidence is that they are excellent about replacing defective Hoppers. Mine is working fine, but it's early days yet, and I want them to be around when and if I need them, The life time warranty means that I will have a working Hopper FOR AS LONG AS HOPPER LABS IS IN BUSINESS. Therefore, I resent the people who are actively warning off new buyers. I have no special information about the company, but it seems to me that this could be a particularly dangerous time for them. I'm sure that they've used up the original backers money by now, so the cash flow from pre-orders is likely what's funding assembly. Should that dry up, the company might be in trouble. So, people who are waiting on their Hoppers who are warning off new buyers might be sinking their own ships.
Not saying that everyone should be telling folks to come on board necessarily, but that warning everyone off might be shooting yourself in your own foot.
Bottom line - I'm happy with my Hopper - it's much better than my old iolite - faster, more efficient, and much more discreet. My advice is to suck it up, keep calm, and carry on - I really believe that you'll be happy with yours when it arrives.
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I assume that was aimed at the Reddit people, because we don't allow tolerate that on FC. Here you will get a warning point.
zymos
Well-Known Member
"Don't tell people there may be problems, because then the company might not be in business long enough to fix the problems"- is kind of problematic to me.
Very much hoping those first duds we've heard about were simply teething problems and reliability is on the increase.
Very much hoping those first duds we've heard about were simply teething problems and reliability is on the increase.
HoustonGuide
Active Member
One more point that I left out of my previous post.
People have commented on the back end getting hot. I have noticed this, but I don't think that it's necessarily a bad sign, especially not a sign of a short circuit. My experience is that the back end heats up during the draw and cools afterward. I suspect that this is due to the design of the Hopper. Remember, much has been made of the fact that there are no wires and the power is transmitted through the body of the Hopper. I suspect that when the heater is drawing full power, the back end heats due to the electricity being transferred. I think that this is a necessary trade off to avoid using wires and won't be a problem - just don't hold it by the back end during use.
People have commented on the back end getting hot. I have noticed this, but I don't think that it's necessarily a bad sign, especially not a sign of a short circuit. My experience is that the back end heats up during the draw and cools afterward. I suspect that this is due to the design of the Hopper. Remember, much has been made of the fact that there are no wires and the power is transmitted through the body of the Hopper. I suspect that when the heater is drawing full power, the back end heats due to the electricity being transferred. I think that this is a necessary trade off to avoid using wires and won't be a problem - just don't hold it by the back end during use.
Not what I said. I simply said that actively telling people that they shouldn't buy is probably not the best idea.
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This all may very well be true, but my back end heat problem is a little different. The instant I turn on my GH, the area around the clip and dial get hot enough that you can't touch it there. This is while the the red LEDs are still on, before the GH has reached operating temperature or the blue LEDs are on. Within a few seconds, it begins cooling, and by the time the blue LEDs come on, the back end is already cooling down.
Expecting my replacement back end to arrive today. I'll post the outcome here, but I can say this now: I hope the back end heat issue I'm having isn't within the realm of "normal", because that would be very disappointing. I like everything else about it, but that heat issue does make it uncomfortable to use.
Heavens
Active Member
Hey Guys,
I finally received my 2 stainless steel Grasshoppers : 1 early bird + 1 regular
. (for shipping to europe + customs taxes detail, i made a post in the shipping poll thread, vapor lounge, if anyone is interested).
I will have to test them and since i'm a small quantity/frequency user, its gonna take a little while but i can already share some info with you all
Like i said in my other thread: both grasshoppers work and charge fine, no problems detected. They are gorgeous to look at (i already regret not to have taken a colored one), they feel great in the hand, they are a "little jewel of technology" i would say. They are small and still feel as "solid/robust" as my solo in the hand.
Up to now, i used a solo and I have a backup flowermate. The best comparison i could do with those two is that the grasshopper vapor is a little more harsh, more like the flowermate, but the taste is closer to the convection side of the solo. Regarding the warmth, the mouthpiece gets warm/hot depending mostly on frequency of use but the silicone piece is making it very easy for the lips. Juts wait a little between hits and its cool again. (i only use silicone when i go above the "third" level of temperature and i already have done several hits close to each other)
I do find the vapor hotter than my solo though, you can feel that the distance is very short between heater and mouth but i need to stress out that use very very small quantity (microdose 0.02-0.03 gr), and i'm very "fragile" from the throat. I probably couldn't take a full breath from any vaporizer charged with 0.1-0.2 gr without coughing my lungs out
About the taste: in general, since i use small doses, the taste is less "dense" than what most people will experience.
I do get slightly better taste/better flavors with my solo (the taste is more "concentrated", less "diffused" in the solo i find). But its also the case with my flowermate being less "tasty" than my solo
Also, taste and flavors is something very specific to the person: some prefer conduction taste, other convection taste so i can't really give you more info on this, you'll have to compare to your own vaporizer 
The effect is definitely there though 
There is no restriction to the air pull: thats a huge difference from my solo and flowermate: no resistance, you can hit it as hard as you want. No special technique: click it (such satisfying sound !!), wait 3-4 sec, hit as you want, click off, enjoy
I can already see that its very convenient for a medical use: i don't have to do a long session with my solo, i can just take a GH hit ... and wait a little to see if its enough or not. This is absolutely great for me to be able to micromanage my "microdoses" I need to do some test about the ideal load size though, as it does influences the quality of vapor (ratio air/load) with such few material: i think it might be more efficient to load a little more than my usual small dose. i'll come back with details about that later.
I know one thing for sure: i'm really happy i backed the indiegogo campaign and finally got to get my hands on these little hoppers
I don't regret the waiting: it was all worth it, it lives up to the hype IMO 
and i hope you all get a chance to see it for yourself soon
I've seen so many negative/aggressive/depressing posts about the grasshopper during the last year 1/2 that i needed to come here and share my happy side of the story. The Grasshopper might not please all, but it definitely does please me for the little time i have it
Sorry for the long post, i'll post more info in the future after some testing, i promise its time to start the testing now hehe 
I finally received my 2 stainless steel Grasshoppers : 1 early bird + 1 regular
. (for shipping to europe + customs taxes detail, i made a post in the shipping poll thread, vapor lounge, if anyone is interested).I will have to test them and since i'm a small quantity/frequency user, its gonna take a little while but i can already share some info with you all
Like i said in my other thread: both grasshoppers work and charge fine, no problems detected. They are gorgeous to look at (i already regret not to have taken a colored one), they feel great in the hand, they are a "little jewel of technology" i would say. They are small and still feel as "solid/robust" as my solo in the hand.
Up to now, i used a solo and I have a backup flowermate. The best comparison i could do with those two is that the grasshopper vapor is a little more harsh, more like the flowermate, but the taste is closer to the convection side of the solo. Regarding the warmth, the mouthpiece gets warm/hot depending mostly on frequency of use but the silicone piece is making it very easy for the lips. Juts wait a little between hits and its cool again. (i only use silicone when i go above the "third" level of temperature and i already have done several hits close to each other)
I do find the vapor hotter than my solo though, you can feel that the distance is very short between heater and mouth but i need to stress out that use very very small quantity (microdose 0.02-0.03 gr), and i'm very "fragile" from the throat. I probably couldn't take a full breath from any vaporizer charged with 0.1-0.2 gr without coughing my lungs out
About the taste: in general, since i use small doses, the taste is less "dense" than what most people will experience.
I do get slightly better taste/better flavors with my solo (the taste is more "concentrated", less "diffused" in the solo i find). But its also the case with my flowermate being less "tasty" than my solo
Also, taste and flavors is something very specific to the person: some prefer conduction taste, other convection taste so i can't really give you more info on this, you'll have to compare to your own vaporizer The effect is definitely there though There is no restriction to the air pull: thats a huge difference from my solo and flowermate: no resistance, you can hit it as hard as you want. No special technique: click it (such satisfying sound !!), wait 3-4 sec, hit as you want, click off, enjoy
I can already see that its very convenient for a medical use: i don't have to do a long session with my solo, i can just take a GH hit ... and wait a little to see if its enough or not. This is absolutely great for me to be able to micromanage my "microdoses" I need to do some test about the ideal load size though, as it does influences the quality of vapor (ratio air/load) with such few material: i think it might be more efficient to load a little more than my usual small dose. i'll come back with details about that later.
I know one thing for sure: i'm really happy i backed the indiegogo campaign and finally got to get my hands on these little hoppers
I don't regret the waiting: it was all worth it, it lives up to the hype IMO and i hope you all get a chance to see it for yourself soon I've seen so many negative/aggressive/depressing posts about the grasshopper during the last year 1/2 that i needed to come here and share my happy side of the story. The Grasshopper might not please all, but it definitely does please me for the little time i have it
Sorry for the long post, i'll post more info in the future after some testing, i promise
its time to start the testing now hehe 
greenthmb
Member
Now, in support of the team, would you by one as a gift for someone ...especially using your Backer Discount price? I'd like to see the company have a strong roll-out then tempt all us "satisfied customers" with great stocking stuffers for our friEnts.Hey Guys,
I finally received my 2 stainless steel Grasshoppers : 1 early bird + 1 regular
I will have to test them and since i'm a small quantity/frequency user, its gonna take a little while but i can already share some info with you all
Like i said in my other thread: both grasshoppers work and charge fine, no problems detected. They are gorgeous to look at (i already regret not to have taken a colored one), they feel great in the hand, they are a "little jewel of technology" i would say. They are small and still feel as "solid/robust" as my solo in the hand.
Up to now, i used a solo and I have a backup flowermate. The best comparison i could do with those two is that the grasshopper vapor is a little more harsh, more like the flowermate, but the taste is closer to the convection side of the solo. Regarding the warmth, the mouthpiece gets warm/hot depending mostly on frequency of use but the silicone piece is making it very easy for the lips. Juts wait a little between hits and its cool again. (i only use silicone when i go above the "third" level of temperature and i already have done several hits close to each other)
I do find the vapor hotter than my solo though, you can feel that the distance is very short between heater and mouth but i need to stress out that use very very small quantity (microdose 0.02-0.03 gr), and i'm very "fragile" from the throat. I probably couldn't take a full breath from any vaporizer charged with 0.1-0.2 gr without coughing my lungs out
About the taste: in general, since i use small doses, the taste is less "dense" than what most people will experience.
I do get slightly better taste/better flavors with my solo (the taste is more "concentrated", less "diffused" in the solo i find). But its also the case with my flowermate being less "tasty" than my solo
There is no restriction to the air pull: thats a huge difference from my solo and flowermate: no resistance, you can hit it as hard as you want. No special technique: click it (such satisfying sound !!), wait 3-4 sec, hit as you want, click off, enjoy
I can already see that its very convenient for a medical use: i don't have to do a long session with my solo, i can just take a GH hit ... and wait a little to see if its enough or not. This is absolutely great for me to be able to micromanage my "microdoses" I need to do some test about the ideal load size though, as it does influences the quality of vapor (ratio air/load) with such few material: i think it might be more efficient to load a little more than my usual small dose. i'll come back with details about that later.
I know one thing for sure: i'm really happy i backed the indiegogo campaign and finally got to get my hands on these little hoppers
I've seen so many negative/aggressive/depressing posts about the grasshopper during the last year 1/2 that i needed to come here and share my happy side of the story. The Grasshopper might not please all, but it definitely does please me for the little time i have it
Sorry for the long post, i'll post more info in the future after some testing, i promise
Following up on my earlier post: the replacement backend arrived today (along with postage-paid packaging to return the bad one). Ripped it out of the package, screwed it onto the unit, and took a big rip all within about 10 seconds, and I'm please to report that I believe I now have a perfect GH. No more excess heat, and everything works like a charm.
Following up on my earlier post: the replacement backend arrived today (along with postage-paid packaging to return the bad one). Ripped it out of the package, screwed it onto the unit, and took a big rip all within about 10 seconds, and I'm please to report that I believe I now have a perfect GH. No more excess heat, and everything works like a charm.
It's good to hear ghl are completely on top of that particular issue.
jojo0420
Cloud Chaser
I received my replacement SS yesterday as well. But just the backend and body, which is good I suppose. I wasn't expecting a new backend but the original SS backend is running my Ti body for now.
So I have two Hoppers again, FrankenHopper and a SS unit.
Still waiting on a new dark gray Ti backend.
I will try to get a small load video up this week with the new SS GH.
So I have two Hoppers again, FrankenHopper and a SS unit.
Still waiting on a new dark gray Ti backend.
I will try to get a small load video up this week with the new SS GH.
MoltenTiger
Well-Known Member
Glad to hear your insight (you too @juke52).
I look forward to seeing what smaller loads are capable of!
jojo0420
Cloud Chaser
Any specific requests?
Several people asked for .1 but not a specific temp, I'm thinking one at 3.5 and one at 4.5.
Someone also requested a full load at 3, that may be a bit of a marathon, in my experience thus far that may take 10-15 hits.
Seems replacement back-ends remedy a high heat situation that SHOULD NOT have been considered "normal" or acceptable after all.Following up on my earlier post: the replacement backend arrived today (along with postage-paid packaging to return the bad one). Ripped it out of the package, screwed it onto the unit, and took a big rip all within about 10 seconds, and I'm please to report that I believe I now have a perfect GH. No more excess heat, and everything works like a charm.
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MoltenTiger
Well-Known Member
I'd like to see it used as I intend to first try it;
Temp at 4.20 with a small pinch in the chamber (I guess ~0.1g) blasted til its done. I'd like to see how many hits you can get until the vapour fades away to nothing but a whispy trace.
Maybe see if you can kill an amount in one hit. So load a tiny bit and see if you can finish it in one drag.
I guess mostly it would be good just to hear, and see, your thoughts on it as you explore the device.
It's hard to know what would be best to show in a video without seeing a GH unit in person.
Basically whatever you show will be eye candy regardless, and it makes waiting a lot easier!
So thanks a lot for that
EDIT:
Actually, one thing I would like to hear a bit about, is the reclaim build up potential for this thing?
How have your pieces held up with heavy use and what are your cleaning habits?
In terms of the silicone tip; what kind of build up can we expect in what kind of time frame?
Cheers again for being open for questions
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hi everyone, been following this saga for a while and recently became the lucky recipient of an SS hopper serial #9xx. it is an interesting device and i am still settling in with it, but here are some first impressions. previous portable devices: crafty, ascent, pax, solo, iolite.
the on-demand heating is real and impressive, slightly over 5 seconds from a cold start. there does not seem to be any conduction effect in the heating process at all, and so within seconds of turning the hopper off the device is fairly cool and produces no residual vapor. after a hit, do a short pull on the hopper to clear remaining vapor, put it in the leather sleeve and the residual odor is very minimal. overall potential for a quick hit in a place where such things are not allowed is unmatched vs. anything i've seen.
the other thing that immediately impressed is the power of the heater. dial it to 5 and you can take huge rips on this thing that will knock you on your ass. you can get equally big clouds from a crafty, but only through a long/slow pull, not the same punch-in-the-face experience. someone mentioned that trevor was encouraging people to hit this thing hard, i can easily see that being true. this is a portable device that is not limited to a slow and steady sip.
the hopper is generating a lot of heat in a very small form factor, and so it's been no surprise that i observed some hot spots on my unit - small areas that get uncomfortably hot at different points in the heating cycle. most noticeably, there is a spot where the rear cap meets the body that develops while the unit heats up. not hot enough to burn, but hot enough to bother -- for me it's easy to avoid contact with the hotspots but i'm sure some would not be pleased to do so. with the chatter on this board about tweaking the backend i suspect this is something they will iron out over time. personally i'm going to sit on this unit as is and see how the issue develops.
vapor temperature gets warm at higher heat temps - not as cool as the crafty, but not uncomfortably hot as the pax can be. the beveled tip of the mouthpiece can get hot at higher temps (4+) and with repeated usage. it makes sense that heat accumulates here as the cone is one of few points of airflow resistance in the vapor path. for those bothered by the heat at the tip, there are two ways to avoid it: use the included silicone mouthpiece (which has a smart design that concentrates the silicone at the tip), or put your lips around the cylindrical portion of the mouthpiece instead of the conical portion. if i'm hitting at a high temp and the silicone mouthpiece is handy then i'll use it, otherwise i'll adjust where i put my lips, either way i find the heat issue manageable.
loading is a bit awkward, am yet to find an elegant way to do it without a tool. inevitably i end up stuffing the last bits in with my fingertip. the pack-n-stash filling cone sits perfectly at the opening of the chamber and is the cleanest approach i've found yet. loading directly from the tip of a pack-n-stash also works fairly well but some flower will fall to the side.
first few hits are very strong on flavor. flavor doesn't taste as crisp as the crafty or the ascent -- probably because the vapor is warmer -- but no metallic taste like the pax. efficiency is very high - device does not need/want a tight pack and i am still getting used to how many hits i get beyond what i expect. i suspect this is because i am used to vapes with conduction elements continuing to cook (and waste) my herb in between hits.
craftsmanship on my hopper is solid but not immaculate. there are some very small marks on the steel and what appears to be some scarring from the machining process. doesn't really bother me as i am sure i will scratch this device up much more myself. the temp dial isn't exactly smooth, it has different amounts of resistance at different points. reports of mechanical failures on this forum have me a bit spooked but for the moment this hopper is holding together and fully functional.
there are certainly imperfections here that people can pick on, but broadly speaking i think the guys at GHL have created a new class of device that opens up some new categories of usage for a portable vape. for certain purposes this will be considered a unicorn device. it's not going to beat every vape in every situation, but if i could only have one portable for the moment this would be it.
the on-demand heating is real and impressive, slightly over 5 seconds from a cold start. there does not seem to be any conduction effect in the heating process at all, and so within seconds of turning the hopper off the device is fairly cool and produces no residual vapor. after a hit, do a short pull on the hopper to clear remaining vapor, put it in the leather sleeve and the residual odor is very minimal. overall potential for a quick hit in a place where such things are not allowed is unmatched vs. anything i've seen.
the other thing that immediately impressed is the power of the heater. dial it to 5 and you can take huge rips on this thing that will knock you on your ass. you can get equally big clouds from a crafty, but only through a long/slow pull, not the same punch-in-the-face experience. someone mentioned that trevor was encouraging people to hit this thing hard, i can easily see that being true. this is a portable device that is not limited to a slow and steady sip.
the hopper is generating a lot of heat in a very small form factor, and so it's been no surprise that i observed some hot spots on my unit - small areas that get uncomfortably hot at different points in the heating cycle. most noticeably, there is a spot where the rear cap meets the body that develops while the unit heats up. not hot enough to burn, but hot enough to bother -- for me it's easy to avoid contact with the hotspots but i'm sure some would not be pleased to do so. with the chatter on this board about tweaking the backend i suspect this is something they will iron out over time. personally i'm going to sit on this unit as is and see how the issue develops.
vapor temperature gets warm at higher heat temps - not as cool as the crafty, but not uncomfortably hot as the pax can be. the beveled tip of the mouthpiece can get hot at higher temps (4+) and with repeated usage. it makes sense that heat accumulates here as the cone is one of few points of airflow resistance in the vapor path. for those bothered by the heat at the tip, there are two ways to avoid it: use the included silicone mouthpiece (which has a smart design that concentrates the silicone at the tip), or put your lips around the cylindrical portion of the mouthpiece instead of the conical portion. if i'm hitting at a high temp and the silicone mouthpiece is handy then i'll use it, otherwise i'll adjust where i put my lips, either way i find the heat issue manageable.
loading is a bit awkward, am yet to find an elegant way to do it without a tool. inevitably i end up stuffing the last bits in with my fingertip. the pack-n-stash filling cone sits perfectly at the opening of the chamber and is the cleanest approach i've found yet. loading directly from the tip of a pack-n-stash also works fairly well but some flower will fall to the side.
first few hits are very strong on flavor. flavor doesn't taste as crisp as the crafty or the ascent -- probably because the vapor is warmer -- but no metallic taste like the pax. efficiency is very high - device does not need/want a tight pack and i am still getting used to how many hits i get beyond what i expect. i suspect this is because i am used to vapes with conduction elements continuing to cook (and waste) my herb in between hits.
craftsmanship on my hopper is solid but not immaculate. there are some very small marks on the steel and what appears to be some scarring from the machining process. doesn't really bother me as i am sure i will scratch this device up much more myself. the temp dial isn't exactly smooth, it has different amounts of resistance at different points. reports of mechanical failures on this forum have me a bit spooked but for the moment this hopper is holding together and fully functional.
there are certainly imperfections here that people can pick on, but broadly speaking i think the guys at GHL have created a new class of device that opens up some new categories of usage for a portable vape. for certain purposes this will be considered a unicorn device. it's not going to beat every vape in every situation, but if i could only have one portable for the moment this would be it.
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hi_there
Well-Known Member
I would ask them for a replacement back-end, it seems this problem can be fixed.
for me it is just a minor PITA.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
@jaypm What is your take on the size of the oven? Someone said they thought they could get between 15-20 hits per bowl. I know there's a lot of variable such as temp and dryness of the cannabis to take into account. I've heard that draw is also relatively easy.
I know taste is subjective. So the herb has a good flavor but not as good as the Ascent. I have an Ascent so that was helpful info. Did your ABV have an even color when spent?
I know taste is subjective. So the herb has a good flavor but not as good as the Ascent. I have an Ascent so that was helpful info. Did your ABV have an even color when spent?
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hits per bowl should completely depend on flower quantity and temp. i haven't experimented enough with the lower temps, for me the higher temp performance is too compelling
what's been working well for me is approx 0.15-0.2g of fresh herb run through a standard grinder - enough to obstruct visibility down the chamber but nice and loose to facilitate airflow. ripping through that in the high temp range, starting at 4 and stepping up to 5, yields a couple nice and flavorful hits as the herb dries out and starts to vaporize, followed by 4-5 powerful hits before it's cashed. ABV is pretty even, always seems less brown than i would expect.
syrupy
Authorized Buyer
IMO, it's safety. Look at where the heater is, way up front. Heat going up to the tip makes sense. But any heat emanating from the back, doesn't sound like a function of the design. How would heat build-up near the collar, the battery or "hot spots" on the back end be considered normal? My Solo, Persei, Firewood, Pax etc...none of those have isolated pockets of heat far from the oven. I would suggest if this was normal operation, GHL wouldn't be replacing these units so quickly.
It's great that folks want to see the bright side of things, and I don't mean to cast doubt on anyone's purchase. But I don't see the back-end heat issue as something to accept. Hot mouthpiece, sure. But heat near the battery? Just unacceptable in my book.
