Why, I'll try that right now!
Why, I'll try that right now!
The stock Arizer elbow fits the ELB just slightly looser than it fits in the EVO bamboo... Just manipulating the screen a bit can make it fit more snug, but hang on!
When I put this combination into the top of a cyclone bowl, if I tap, the screen falls out of the elbow a bit and hits the screen in the cyclone bowl, and as soon as you pull on the whip, it sucks back in... This is actually kinda cool!
Going through a rather loaded ELB, while it's inside the elbow, it hits hard and strong, let it fall out and sip lightly and it seems to focus on the bit on the back that was underdone - a perfect match?
This definately requires more experimentation! If it were only the weekend.......
OH! FOR SCIENCE!
It's hard work!Thanks for checking that out and I apologize that I made you go to all of that work, please take a vape-break!!
Correctamondo! Or at least it appears to be so. I'm mostly enamored with the whole concept of "dropping a load"... when I let off, it drops out, so I believe it cuts down a bit on the convection while you're not pulling on it since it's no longer directly encased by glass but has a bit of room, keeping it from cooking the flavor out.
It'd probably make it a bit more efficient as I'm sure leaving it loose lets a bit of extra air slip past without doing its job, but I'm having fun.
Hell yeah! Dropping a load for science!I don't want any inefficiencies and/or wasted product here, this is all about maximizing the Arizers' potential!
Let us know if you had time to keep the experiments going this weekend...homework was never this good!!
Sounds like you are loading/dropping a 3 1/2" THC Magnum shell into a vaporizing shotgun and repeatedly hitting the target!!
No I'm not high, that comment came from the same place as it would if I was though!I think I'm getting a contact high just reading your post!
It'd probably make it a bit more efficient as I'm sure leaving it loose lets a bit of extra air slip past without doing its job, but I'm having fun.
I've also got a Vapor Bros 18mm hydration adapter that's much like the Arizer elbow, but it's a bit more free flowing. I normally use this to connect the silicone tubing to a water tool. The ELB fits much more tightly into the end of this adapter, and I find if I fit it a few times and wiggle the end about and pull it out (oh, hush!), it constricts the diameter of the ELB to the perfect size so that it gets the drop action out of the Arizer elbow that I've been describing in the rest of this post. It's like it was custom made to be a sizing tool for my experimentation!
BTW - I've also noticed that it fits and acts in a similar manner with the SSV ground glass adapter that is popular, if the screen is removed first. For those that are compelled to throw the DDave adapter into the mix, I'm afraid your mileage may vary quite widely, but for those that can get that drop action (god I need a video for this), I can only imagine you just found the peak performance manifold, quite literally).
Hell yeah! Dropping a load for science!
(See conversation just above about the EZ Load Bowl.. If you leave the cap off, it's precisely as you describe)Where can we get a longer length elbow bowl for the EQ? I like my little standard one but it'd be nice to be able to pack a monster size cone for those special nights.
If anyone has such information let me know
Interesting! Thank you!These are the EZ Load bowls that normally are used with the VapeXhale Cloud, Cloud+ and Cloud EVO vaporizers.
Typically product is loaded in the big, deep bowl, then the cap is placed over the end. The cap is a bit smaller than the Arizer elbow screens. The big, deep bowl is much, much larger than the Arizer elbow screen
If using it as a direct replacement for the elbow screen, I do find I have to crank the heat up a bit to compensate, so your mileage may vary...
Honestly, I use it with the Cloud EVO itself and see it more as a novelty with the Extreme-Q (which sits all sad on a shelf most of the time). I had a bit of fun this weekend - instead of letting that bowl sit snugly in the elbow, I left it loose so that it would slide back and forth like a slug depending if you were pulling or not.Interesting! Thank you!
It'd be nice to have one of them lying around for if/when I am hosting a large vape sesh for some friends. It'd fit 10x the herb compared to a normal dome screen! What a novelty.. haha
Thank you for finding that for me, i'm sure it was just in the last few pages but I owe you one
Do you own one and use it with your EQ? If so; when does it come in handy and what type of an experience is it? I can see myself emptying the whole screen out mid-sesh and mixing it / re-packing it again. I can't imagine something that long would vape all bits of marijuana evenly.
Thanks for that. Your experience with it makes me think that yes it would be 100% novelty with no real use in my vaping setup! They only sell then in 4 packs on ebay which amounts to much more $ than I would like to spend on a small item. Oh well.. It's nice to think outside the box anyway, and no doubt there are some heavy vapists out there using that EZ Load Bowl to do things we can only dream of.Honestly, I use it with the Cloud EVO itself and see it more as a novelty with the Extreme-Q (which sits all sad on a shelf most of the time). I had a bit of fun this weekend - instead of letting that bowl sit snugly in the elbow, I left it loose so that it would slide back and forth like a slug depending if you were pulling or not.
I have more to report on with regards to my experimentation, but need to acquire a few more parts first
Anyway... when using with the VapeXhale vaporizers, I typically load about 1/4 to 1/3 of the total size of that bowl. A bit similar to how the Cyclone bowl works for the Extreme-Q, I believe space is needed for the payload to move around a bit in the airstream. Packing it tight has never led to good results for myself.
I treat it in a similar way for the EQ - but since I don't fill it, it means the payload is going to shift towards the end of the bowl (and away from the heat source, thus needing to crank it up a few notches).
Honestly, the cyclone bowl itself holds way more, and even at the size it is, I again pack about 1/4-1/3 full, which is probably around 2-3 normal elbow packs... it does meet your wishes as stated, but don't think it really "gains" you anything, except a bit of fun and experimentation.
I just happen to have all the parts
" and finished an hour later with a bad need to eat something asap before I collapse on my couch. 
. This can totally replace the smoking habit without any regret. Period.
I'm going to try that as soon as I get home, that method sounds fun and interesting!So... Here I'm at page 40 & something of this thread and I've been having so much fun the last few days testing dozens of tricks, routines and preferences of other users. Yes these posts are 4-5 years old, but when you gotta try you gotta try, right? You can't just discard the excellent work and the admirable courage of these pioneers. ahaaaa.
Tell you what... tried the trick of starting with a very well warmed-up set up and herbs. Hitting a couple of times the whip with temperatures as low as 140°C, then rise the temp 10°C, wait 2/3 minutes and hit again couple of times and rise 10°C and so on to 215-220.
Oh boy not only I end up stoned out of my mind with a .20, I spend 30/45 mins, of highly addictive fun, I can see how this can totally replace and expand the rolling a j routine.
This little test really gave me a pretty good idea of the range of effects obtainable by using different temps.
The first time I tried I was like... meh a .20... not a big deal. I use 3 grams a day on average for recreational use and I try to keep it down... Ok it's my own Biddy Early, it's a pretty effing good variety of mostly sativa, with the best aroma ever. I have people banging at my door, begging me once they try ,FFS.
But honestly I was a bit skeptic, 140° C temp? WTF? I can't really see much exhaling... hmmmmm but the taste...THE TASTEEEE, sniff... I shed a tears or two.
Well try and let me know... once I was at 160/170° C my 83 years old mum called me and we had a blast with the most effing hilarious convo ever, talking about her hernia and the need of a new dental bridge..it was fucking wild...rofl. You got the point.
Thanks to whoever wrote that piece, not only it lasts forever, the herbs are properly spent
and I enjoy enormously the aromas,I've been even on the edge of needing some orange juice to "recover"with this method and a .20 <--------------- holy shit! I still can't believe it
And all this by using the unit material, no mods.no elbow packing.
I love to use the fan on 2 assisted whip with the above. The fan really helps to perfect your inhalation steadiness, and delivers the same amount of hinalation for every temp. step.
Lulz just finished one session and I started super excited with that feeling in my heart "oh boy oh boy I'm gonna explode I'm gonna explode.. oh boy
I know right now from experience, not because I'm supersmart or anything, but because I've smoked for so long
I can totally see now the flexibility the EQ offers, with its remote it's a joke to change setting and only your fantasy is the limit. I'm sure in 3-5 years we will see computerized machines that can record and save in memories your sessions and repeat them automatically when you feel like it. There you go, I just gave you for free the 1 million bucks idea.
I Just tried a .1, elbow packed, and because of the elbow distance from the heater I started from 155°C instead of 140°C expecting a very thin stream of vape and some excellent taste.
listening to my friends "meh..yes vapes..pffff...no thanks". 
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Great idea, gonna test tomorrow
YES! Awesome! The one I had 2 nights ago was the same. Packed from top to bottom with ABV and it was smooooootttthhhh. Came out so much darker and finer than it went in, and there was no need to stir. (Well, I could have stirred it but I got so high off the first few hits that I forgot)I did the same thing but in the elbow...sh*t I feel pretty stupid right now. How the heck I thought about the elbow and not the bowl , maybe 'cauz I'm stoned 18 hours a day 365 days a year..who knows uh?
Great idea, gonna test tomorrow
