The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

[montblanco]

I apologize if this has been asked/answered before:
I bought my Extreme Q about 4 years ago and have used it exclusively since, but after 2~ years of ownership, it began to malfunction. The temperature display does not match the actual temperature, i.e. I have to set the unit to 70C for it to run as hot as it did running at 180C. I've had various other temporary issues (error message, fan cranking to max automatically, etc.) but those problems quickly dissipated after one or two instances. I took the unit apart to clean it but this did not fix the temperature issue.

It functions perfectly now, albeit running at a lower display temperature. I purchased the unit from a website (not Arizer directly). I emailed Arizer about the issue, as I was also worried about the unit simply being hazardous (concerning the temperature). The rep. who emailed me back said I shouldn't worry as long as the unit continued to function at a set temperature, but offered no further information.

Any ideas? I presume it isn't a fixable problem but I'm just looking to see if anyone has had a similar experience with their unit.

 

[Stu]

Any ideas? I presume it isn't a fixable problem but I'm just looking to see if anyone has had a similar experience with their unit.

Maybe a bad temperature sensor? I would just keep using it myself, but watch for any temperature fluctuations during use.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

I apologize if this has been asked/answered before:
I bought my Extreme Q about 4 years ago and have used it exclusively since, but after 2~ years of ownership, it began to malfunction. The temperature display does not match the actual temperature, i.e. I have to set the unit to 70C for it to run as hot as it did running at 180C. I've had various other temporary issues (error message, fan cranking to max automatically, etc.) but those problems quickly dissipated after one or two instances. I took the unit apart to clean it but this did not fix the temperature issue.

It functions perfectly now, albeit running at a lower display temperature. I purchased the unit from a website (not Arizer directly). I emailed Arizer about the issue, as I was also worried about the unit simply being hazardous (concerning the temperature). The rep. who emailed me back said I shouldn't worry as long as the unit continued to function at a set temperature, but offered no further information.

Any ideas? I presume it isn't a fixable problem but I'm just looking to see if anyone has had a similar experience with their unit.

You may have fixed the initial problem by cleaning it. I have found leaving your unit unplugged for a while will cause it to be weak for a while. After I left my EQ plugged in, but off for a duration, It started behaving like it old self. But I did think something was up, when it behaved weaker for me. I now leave my EQ plugged in 24/7 and preheat the bowl as soon as I arrive. You don't have to go to those extremes, but be aware of it when you ever do unplug the unit. I believe the transformer int the power unit needs warm up time to ramp up the unit properly. Might explain the fluctuations that you are experiencing. And can see how it might seem weak after being unplugged and cleaned. Just try giving it some AC time with the unit off, then the unit on and preheat the bowl.

The display, I would watch a little closer for a while and listen for any fan squeak when running the fan. After You allowed time for the unit to be plugged in for a duration, then preheated the oven, do a system check and run all 3 fan speeds and see if the display shows you anything different. If the PCB is the issue, then you have to decide if it is work repairing.

 

[Stevenski]

Quick question - as I'm searching for a bong to use with my EQ, I'm wondering... does it make a difference if I get a bong with a joint that is 14mm as opposed to 18mm? Do you guys recommend a 18mm, and if so, why?

(btw, I will have both a 18mm and 14mm water tool adaptor, so that is not an issue)

The EQ's elbows are native 18mm so if you are getting a bubbler it makes sense to use 18mm . Get a cheap D020 or D020D on the cheap & enjoy. I personally find the Blaze bubbler i have is a brilliant volume as it is about 1/3 bigger than a D020.

I find it totally fucking amazing my abused EQ on 230 will destroy .05 of wax with .05 of weed in one big hit & 2 wispy hits. I am fucking blazed & just reloaded. All hail the EQ although I am excited about my UD coming. You know when you are so stoned you shake your head to try & get it together but are just completely fucked like you are 13 years old again.

These bong hits are as big as my fucking biggest ever 2 volcano launcher cones in one rip & I am now going to get more fucked up than I have ever been on weed in my life tonight. I am trying to green myself out & am doing that heavy breathing because I am THUMPING & giggling to myself & ripping monster after monster. Hopefully I don't kill my tolerance as 2 hours ago I was nicely ripped off 2 normal DDave elbows. Now I have smashed .3 of wax & yeah I might need to chill now as it is midnight but damm

 

[Stevenski]

I have no memory of posting that ^

 

[Nugg]

@Stevenski Glad to hear you made it through the night. Sounds like you got up to some shenanigans!

I have been cutting back and trying to lower my tolerance so I've been avoiding my EQ as I tend to over indulge when using it but you have inspired me to fire it up for some weekend service.

 

[Hashtag46&2]

Shit?!?!?
Should I be using my bong?!? With my @DDave kit?!

I'm a dry vapor guy, but if I can extract the whole basket in one hit...


She is double chamber simple perc at a foot tall.

 

[Nugg]

@Hashtag46&2 Yes, yes you should be.

Crank that bad boy up to 230c and get ready to be punched in the face.

 

[Stevenski]

@Stevenski Glad to hear you made it through the night. Sounds like you got up to some shenanigans!

I have been cutting back and trying to lower my tolerance so I've been avoiding my EQ as I tend to over indulge when using it but you have inspired me to fire it up for some weekend service.

Low tolerance vaping was my plan after 3 days interstate with limited vaping opportunities. Then I saw that baking paper & thought why not after a draining week? Shit got real & my face was vibrating. I hear you on that overindulging via EQ though. Too fucking easy .

Shit?!?!?
Should I be using my bong?!? With my @DDave kit?!

I'm a dry vapor guy, but if I can extract the whole basket in one hit...


She is double chamber simple perc at a foot tall.

Yes, yes you should my friend. Double chamber single perc eh? What size joint? It sounds about perfect to me as it is in the sweet spot for a vape bong size wise. You have nothing to lose & everything to gain here. Worst case you hate it but you now know you hate it. I would b be far more concerend with you doing your nuts over it & dry vaping goes by the wayside .

I regularly get single hit .1 extraction with my EQ on 230c & hooked to water. As I had concentrate in there last night I was ringing my bell at 240c & fuck me drunk was it good.

 

[Hashtag46&2]

Low tolerance vaping was my plan after 3 days interstate with limited vaping opportunities. Then I saw that baking paper & thought why not after a draining week? Shit got real & my face was vibrating. I hear you on that overindulging via EQ though. Too fucking easy .



Yes, yes you should my friend. Double chamber single perc eh? What size joint? It sounds about perfect to me as it is in the sweet spot for a vape bong size wise. You have nothing to lose & everything to gain here. Worst case you hate it but you now know you hate it. I would b be far more concerend with you doing your nuts over it & dry vaping goes by the wayside .

I regularly get single hit .1 extraction with my EQ on 230c & hooked to water. As I had concentrate in there last night I was ringing my bell at 240c & fuck me drunk was it good.

14mm joint..

I am going to try it tonight...

Been trying to get the whole thing through my whip...

I think filling the foot tall bong full of greasy vapor will do the trick.

 

[scorpioeq]

Hi All, New to the forums.

Has anyone tried the Extreme Q with either of these configurations?

HEPA Filter - HEPA filter taped over the unit's air intake. (Filter cut from HEPA vacuum bag)
http://screencast.com/t/7tx1ytXz

Water Pipe Adapter on whip - Basic pipe adapter (18mm) on the whip. (Replaces stock elbow adapter)
http://screencast.com/t/MBv4hy0Ch

HEPA filter is mostly for clean air and the adapter for smoother/easier draws.

Just looking for feedback or ideas.

Thanks!

 

[this_guy_griff]

so ive been using the eq for a couple weeks now and i have to say, it definitely hits harder then i thought with the stock whip set up. i feel like at 205C(working up to, starting at 190C), it hits almost as good as my ssv. i like the taste, for the most part, and it seems to allow a lot of vapour on a relatively small amount of weed. this, in stock form compared to my ssv, allows for much more efficiency, as i tended to use a lot of herb with my ssv. I tested out the bag with my gf and i am impressed with that too, although simply for easier to share. the speed at filling was quick, but i felt i had to have at higher temps to get exactly what i wanted(starting at 215C). and the remote is genius! overall, happy person right now for $60.
i think, for now, i am just gonna get a 14mm to 18mm to connect with my bong instead of DDave mods right now. cheaper and i can pick it up locally, although i do see myself getting the package he provides at some point.
love the pics and videos are everyone as well. fun to see what i can attempt to do and hear what works well or doesn't.

 

[Oldvape53]

A couple weeks in here too using the eq. Been using meds for over 30 years, tried other vaporizers, this thing hits like a freight train! Along with it being able to vaporize things like passion flower, I can officially say fuck combustion now to all! 2 years tobacco free using eliquid vaporization, and now my medicine fully vaporized. Once you get used to the change of effect of vaping over smoking, it becomes much more preferential. I'll never smoke again. 40 years of smoking tobacco and herbs is over!

 

[Stevenski]

14mm joint..

I am going to try it tonight...

Been trying to get the whole thing through my whip...

I think filling the foot tall bong full of greasy vapor will do the trick.

14mm is not bad either you will just need to get a cheap 14mm adapter or jury rig one from something else if you don't have one around.

Hi All, New to the forums.

Has anyone tried the Extreme Q with either of these configurations?

HEPA Filter - HEPA filter taped over the unit's air intake. (Filter cut from HEPA vacuum bag)
http://screencast.com/t/7tx1ytXz

Water Pipe Adapter on whip - Basic pipe adapter (18mm) on the whip. (Replaces stock elbow adapter)
http://screencast.com/t/MBv4hy0Ch

HEPA filter is mostly for clean air and the adapter for smoother/easier draws.

Just looking for feedback or ideas.

Thanks!

You could try a HEPA filter but I would not bother especially if you are using water already. I have done a lot of work in respiratory protection field over the years & see no reason to warrant one. I used the waterpipe adapter in place of the elbow & it is a much less restrictive draw indeed. If you do not have a DDave kit then it is a good upgrade provided the elbow screen fits easily.

& that is someone who has

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Hi All, New to the forums.

Has anyone tried the Extreme Q with either of these configurations?

HEPA Filter - HEPA filter taped over the unit's air intake. (Filter cut from HEPA vacuum bag)
http://screencast.com/t/7tx1ytXz

Water Pipe Adapter on whip - Basic pipe adapter (18mm) on the whip. (Replaces stock elbow adapter)
http://screencast.com/t/MBv4hy0Ch

HEPA filter is mostly for clean air and the adapter for smoother/easier draws.

Just looking for feedback or ideas. Most EQers here like the @DDave mod kit, using silicone hose instead of PVC, and the d020 and d020-d are the baseline water tools around these parts. But there are all types of EQ users who have found something that works for them.
The @DDave kit has better screens and bowls than stock and rarely a page on this thread goes by with at least two new people mentioning the impact they get from their EQ with the upgrade. Thanks for sharing what works for you.
Thanks!

Welcome to the forum, I've thought about some sort of filter to help keep the debris out, But was afraid of something happening in the heat air intake.
Had more of a foam filter in mind. But similar principle. So how long have you been using this filter?

I haven't seen anybody use it as a wand pack. But people seem to like it as an adapter to their water piece. I guess the tubing and pathway work well with it.
I did start using a bent adapter as a wand, only because it heated itself well. I do use a downstem as a wand because it conducts the heat from the bowl so well.
You EQ power rippers with your 230c 1 hit bong rips would like my downstem wand or something as powerful in your setup. I'm guessing having that extra glass near the bowl end heats the caps that much fiercer. Drop a cap, 1m than extract.

so ive been using the eq for a couple weeks now and i have to say, it definitely hits harder then i thought with the stock whip set up. i feel like at 205C(working up to, starting at 190C), it hits almost as good as my ssv. i like the taste, for the most part, and it seems to allow a lot of vapour on a relatively small amount of weed. this, in stock form compared to my ssv, allows for much more efficiency, as i tended to use a lot of herb with my ssv. I tested out the bag with my gf and i am impressed with that too, although simply for easier to share. the speed at filling was quick, but i felt i had to have at higher temps to get exactly what i wanted(starting at 215C). and the remote is genius! overall, happy person right now for $60.
i think, for now, i am just gonna get a 14mm to 18mm to connect with my bong instead of DDave mods right now. cheaper and i can pick it up locally, although i do see myself getting the package he provides at some point.
love the pics and videos are everyone as well. fun to see what i can attempt to do and hear what works well or doesn't.

I liked it when I could find something that works and hone in on that.
You might want to consider at least getting the screens. Because you will want more and @Ddaves are better. They are thinner and more robust. I no longer have screen taste during longer sessions at higher temps. But the kit will get you all the parts without sourcing them yourself. It is a timesaver if anything else.

Did you say $60 for an EQ? $160 is reasonable. You got a good deal either way.

O.K EQers I do not own a d020, but my water setup uses the d020 as a template. Anybody care to tell us how they think the d020 performs?

A couple weeks in here too using the eq. Been using meds for over 30 years, tried other vaporizers, this thing hits like a freight train! Along with it being able to vaporize things like passion flower, I can officially say fuck combustion now to all! 2 years tobacco free using eliquid vaporization, and now my medicine fully vaporized. Once you get used to the change of effect of vaping over smoking, it becomes much more preferential. I'll never smoke again. 40 years of smoking tobacco and herbs is over!

Congratulations on kicking combustion to the curb! Kicking it after 40 years too! That must have taken some serious willpower. I'm less than a year myself. Then I can officially declare myself combustion free. (other then some mishaps.)

Passion flower is intense for flavor. Been vaping all sorts of mints, Rose petals, Hibiscus flowers, Chamomile and Lemongrass and Lemon Balm. I'm also on the ethnobotanical thread. Been getting some of the health benefits of vaping some of these herbs.

 

[this_guy_griff]

Did you say $60 for an EQ? $160 is reasonable. You got a good deal either way.

thanks for the advice, just not a priority right now ill get it eventually.
i did say $60 for it. canadian too, so thats like $30 US right now. it was my roommates who just stopped using it. year or 2 old, but had most of the stuff originally. cleaned all the glass and screens in iso and its like its new. too much of a good deal that i couldn't pass up, since i wanted one anyway.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

thanks for the advice, just not a priority right now ill get it eventually.
i did say $60 for it. canadian too, so thats like $30 US right now. it was my roommates who just stopped using it. year or 2 old, but had most of the stuff originally. cleaned all the glass and screens in iso and its like its new. too much of a good deal that i couldn't pass up, since i wanted one anyway.

People in this thread mention the kit often because it works well for them and it saves a lot of repeat newcomer questions. I still use stock for herbs that require lower temps. And the stock parts work fine for you as you mentioned.
$30 US? And you found us too. I could go for a deal like that for a used EQ.

Cheapest upgrade for whip sessions? Cut one of those whip hose in half. Now you have more direct draw and a spare whip hose.

 

[Stevenski]

That is the great thing with the EQ as you can repurpose so many pieces of glass into useful additions to the EQ base unit. If you can get 18mm whip adapters that will fit a EQ basket on the cheap get them & use them over a stock elbow. The single best upgrade is to get a food grade silicone over vinyl one .

I tried multiple generic 18mm F/F connections & combinations of screens. None of them work 1/2 as good as the DDave system, not even close for consistent extraction.

I have been making hash pancakes of shatter made from kief tonight. A friend who owed me some bud left me 3.75g of kief/tobacco from her coffee grinder as a present with the bud . After running through coffee filters three times & evaporating over a double boiler I got .7 of rock hard amber gold & it if fucking gold . This is where the EQ really does have a sweet spot & that is heavily modded at 240c ripping the most insane clouds going on a budget!

 

[Nugg]

Following in your footsteps @Stevenski I had a fat rosin herb sanga in the EQ at 235c to start me off this morning at around 1130.

I didn't go looking for another hit until 430. I have no idea how you were back to backing them last night. You are truly and inspiration to us all

With lowering my intake I have been getting higher. It gives me such a punch now when I supercharge a bowl with keif or oil.

 

[Stevenski]

I always was a slow learner & fast forgetter @Nugg.I have to try & keep it til once a day (like after dinner maybe) but it is Saturday night right?

 

[stressed]

just an FYI - i bought a product called zeus iceborn to cool off the vapor and reduce my coughing. it's a bust. stay away from it!

here are my posts on it.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/review-discussion-on-the-zeus-iceborn-vaporizer-accessory.20329/

back to the drawing board. the hype around the iceborn is criminal and from my experience, a bunch of bullshit. i'm not into bongs, i want something that i can attach my bag and vape away without coughing. the iceborn stopped the coughing but reduced the high...i think.

 

[vapor33]

@kellya86

Is there a post somewhere in this thread showing all these little techniques I see you guys talking about?

Elbow packing for concentrates?
Qwiso?
Better mods/attachments?


Just got my Q and I'm trying to learn.

 

[Hashtag46&2]

@Stevenski ...

Yeahhh brother.

When I feel like my tolerance is getting high, I simply reserve a single session at night.

Doing this Monday- Friday, my tolerance is pretty stable for the last 5 years or so.

@kellya86

Is there a post somewhere in this thread showing all these little techniques I see you guys talking about?

Elbow packing for concentrates?
Qwiso?
Better mods/attachments?


Just got my Q and I'm trying to learn.

Hit up our resident Mod master @DDave for releasing the beast in your new Q.
It is worth every penny... He is also awesome for vapor advice.

 

[vapor33]

@Stevenski

"After running through coffee filters three times & evaporating over a double boiler I got .7 of rock hard ambergold & it if fucking gold."

What is this process called so I can look up how to do it?

 

[CuckFumbustion]

just an FYI - i bought a product called zeus iceborn to cool off the vapor and reduce my coughing. it's a bust. stay away from it!

here are my posts on it.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/review-discussion-on-the-zeus-iceborn-vaporizer-accessory.20329/

back to the drawing board. the hype around the iceborn is criminal and from my experience, a bunch of bullshit. i'm not into bongs, i want something that i can attach my bag and vape away without coughing. the iceborn stopped the coughing but reduced the high...i think.

Checked out your posts. Short answer below. But check it out if you are curious.

Yup vapor is just steam,cool it and it will return to liquid and condense inside the cooling device..less medicine & flavour but more reclaim.

Since you are going back to the drawing board, There may be a best of both situation if you have something that cools slightly over a stretch of a long glass pathway. Cools it just enough to avoid a cough plus reclaiming the larger particles.

Another tangent is water molecules attaching themselves to the vapor as it passes through.

You were pondering whether to have a shorter pathway and cut the PVC in half. I have done that for my whip setup and I definitely had more throat. Cheap upgrade IMO.
I'm considering getting a claisen adapter to expand on this. An all glass pathway might provide some answers of getting the right temp and gas mix that doesn't exacerbate any scratchy throat. Better then say having the Zeus turning that effort into a block of ice. I'm sure there is something clever you can do with that thing. Did you get a sense they had a design in mind or did they send you a brick? I can see why you cut bait on that and decided to fish elsewhere.

Trying to seek that balance myself. My current water setup has a lot of inside volume after it passes through water. A simple 6 slit downstem with just enough water to have a water barrier for the stem to work. Not a lot of diffusion going on. But there is a mist being thrown around inside the bottle. If I draw at a certain speed the heavier vapor stays inside the glass and becomes thicker with each draw. I only cough when I get greedy or exhale at the end. Or when I clear it and get those extra blast at the end. There is always going to be an amount of loss with water. So I use just enough length of silicone hose to shorten the pathway going to the water piece to compensate more. And sometimes I will cut off an inch here or there to get that correct air flow. And save those strips for other projects.

You can just have a water piece to test the airflow with the fan with some dry runs and calibrate your setup. The elbow screen does restrict the airflow to an extent. (Another reason to go with the @DDave's btw.) I will hold the whip end to my ear sometimes to hear the airflow and that it feels good on my ears.