The Arizer Air
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lwien
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The portable vaporizer wars seems to be heating up pretty quick. I like that companies are spurring each other on to bring out better product. Great news for the consumer.
The performance gap between desktops and portables seems to be closing a bit, eh? I wonder if eventually, with advancing technologies, the portable will make desktops obsolete.
The performance gap between desktops and portables seems to be closing a bit, eh? I wonder if eventually, with advancing technologies, the portable will make desktops obsolete.
sasNW
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Just. Couldn't. Resist!
I don't think there is any. I think the future of vaporizers will be portable units which function like a desktop when plugged in. Minivap is a good example. Battery tech is gonna be the biggest issue for a while. Being able to plug in at home is a nice compromise.
i didnt tell mine! You brave soul! Mine would say, not another pot contraptionI just told my wife about my Air order. Good news! It looks like I have avoided her wrath. I guess I have been a good boy.
OF
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Interesting conjecture on the future differences between portable and corded vapes. I think corded vapes avoid the major design constraint of portables, available power. Without this restriction, desktop units use several times more power to do the work, a true luxury where you otherwise have to trade performance off against power usage. Something like the old joke about the electric car that cost $1,200 to drive cross country......$6 for electricity and $1,194 for extension cords.
Like with cordless power tools, enough high tech (batteries and motors in that case) can make more capable units (at a lot more money.....) but there is, I think, a limit to that. Same as cordless power tools didn't eliminate corded versions, I suspect we'll have both 'classes' of vapes for a while?
Not to worry, your FC buds have told her for you.......
If you need a couch to lay low on for a while, speak up. Just be sure you bring your stash........
OF
Like with cordless power tools, enough high tech (batteries and motors in that case) can make more capable units (at a lot more money.....) but there is, I think, a limit to that. Same as cordless power tools didn't eliminate corded versions, I suspect we'll have both 'classes' of vapes for a while?
i didnt tell mine! You brave soul! Mine would say, not another pot contraption
Not to worry, your FC buds have told her for you.......
If you need a couch to lay low on for a while, speak up. Just be sure you bring your stash........
OF
Pappy
shmaporist
@u bwade wunner
After using most of the vapes mentioned by @biohacker I'd have to conclude Solo is my favorite vape as well. It's powerful as a desktop but far more efficient. Two things I've learned since joining FC is particulates are your enemy and I never want to buy silicone tubing again.
After using most of the vapes mentioned by @biohacker I'd have to conclude Solo is my favorite vape as well. It's powerful as a desktop but far more efficient. Two things I've learned since joining FC is particulates are your enemy and I never want to buy silicone tubing again.
Papa Woody
"The vapor is strong with this one"-Obi Onda Woody
So then you're going to buy her an Air also?
Verrry sneaky...
She will never guess your ulterior motives...
lwien
Well-Known Member
I have no idea.
killick
But I like it!
The INH05 has an 'Auto' setting that runs a session between 5 and 5.5. I checked to see if this could be changed, and it can, just not easily. Goboof has a setting that incrementally increases temperatures based on puff, which has potential as well. Now, with the Crafty having a Bluetooth interface how long do we need to wait until we get user programmable settings?
It would be great to set a program that starts low and goes to medium for loads of flavour, and then another one for clouds, both based on what the user prefers instead of what the vape designers think everyone might want. Just give me one user-creatable macro in a portable and I'll be a happy camper, at least for a few days.
It can't be too far off - S&B are maybe closest, but anything with a USB interface should be a candidate with a bit of majick...
Heck - give me a program or two on a desktop and I'll hook up a whip from a desktop to a gas mask, sit beside my desktop vape and surf the web til I can't see the screen, then load up the portable, turn on the macro, and go for a walk til the battery(ies) are dead
It would be great to set a program that starts low and goes to medium for loads of flavour, and then another one for clouds, both based on what the user prefers instead of what the vape designers think everyone might want. Just give me one user-creatable macro in a portable and I'll be a happy camper, at least for a few days.
It can't be too far off - S&B are maybe closest, but anything with a USB interface should be a candidate with a bit of majick...
Heck - give me a program or two on a desktop and I'll hook up a whip from a desktop to a gas mask, sit beside my desktop vape and surf the web til I can't see the screen, then load up the portable, turn on the macro, and go for a walk til the battery(ies) are dead
OF
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If the base question here is 'what features might desk tops exploit in the future to gain market advantage over portables' I suggest two.
First off, the 'power to burn' advantage will favor convection and therefore (at least to some) superior taste. Experience with T1 and Cera have underscored the advantages of, and problems delivering, true convection in a portable. For many, this will be the Holy Grail......nothing short of true convection with an easily maintainable all glass vapor path? And of course, even longer battery life.
Secondly, I think desktops have a size advantage, or rather lack of restrictions. Another serious handicap for the portables, as many are trying to fit in a pocket. Then a smaller pocket than their competitors. In this same area WTs are a practical part of desktop options, basically a non starter in portables. Even attempts like the PWT and F-Bomb seriously compromise the portable concept, and I think honest guys would say a bong/GonG/Solo rig is by default now a desktop?
"at a specific price point"? That would be the 'for a lot more money' part? Price is, I think, always part of the mix.
I think that 'revolution' has been going on in power tools for a long time already, through several evolutions of batteries. Today, we can see in the hardware store, that the cost of providing lots of power for longer times has made the portables the most expensive option? And many of the lightest and easiest to use tools are cordless still?
I just don't see potables eliminating corded vapes any time soon. The market shares may shift a bit (either way), but both types will endure and evolve at least for a while I think?
OF
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Belgianvapor
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you don't have to wait, tadaa : the Ascent, although that's a cool feature, I never use it.
mitchgo61
I go where the thrills are
Already happened at my house. Between my FFs, my INH, my Solo (and maybe my Air, if someone posts some video
), my desktops have all been sitting in a closet. My wife is thrilled that our coffee table is finally uncluttered for the first time since 2009.
killick
But I like it!
I didn't think I'd use it til I started running it on the INH. Now that I'm used to it I wish it had a bigger spread...
OF
Well-Known Member
This too will pass, Amigo, this too will pass.
Remember, we're counting on you not to keep what you find a secret.........
Time to get in a last few sessions with your soon to be back up vape?
OF
Alright! Look like it's finally my turn to be the first on the bus.
Look what came in the mail today! Sorry for the iPad photos and messy workspace, but honestly would you want me to waste any time in getting these images to you? This is an unboxing/picture post, I'll be going into more detail on the operation and engineering after I have had some time to spend with it.
Looks like they have plans for a Titanium coloured unit in the future:
The air comes with 2 mouthpieces, a potpourri dish, 1 charger, the Air unit, a silicone sleeve and this awesome little belt holster! It holds the Air, as well as has two little pouches on the side for mouthpieces or vials of ground bud. A nice touch that really improves the portability factor.
Comparison shot between the brothers:
Heater looks pretty much exactly the same as later Solo models:
The underside of the unit screws off to expose the removable battery:
The battery on the left (green) is one of my high capacity 18650 cells. The red one on the right is the stock battery that came with the Air. From what I can tell (need to do some testing on it) these are standard 2600mAh LiCo cells.
Got a kick out of this, I guess someone forgot to update the reminder slip!
And oh my - it stands up while charging?! Our prayers have been answered!!
And here it is wearing the "coloured case" as the instruction book calls it. I'm going to call it what it is, a vape-condom. Toke safely kids!
My first impressions of this device are extremely favorable. The unit is made out of high quality materials and feels very solid. It's heavy enough to not feel cheap, but is light enough it could comfortably ride along in a decent sized pocket. I'm not usually the best judge of this sort of thing, but I don't smell any robot fart or strange odors coming off of it either. I am preparing to use it for the first time right now, so I will report back with the stuff you really want to know about shortly.
Look what came in the mail today! Sorry for the iPad photos and messy workspace, but honestly would you want me to waste any time in getting these images to you? This is an unboxing/picture post, I'll be going into more detail on the operation and engineering after I have had some time to spend with it.
Looks like they have plans for a Titanium coloured unit in the future:
The air comes with 2 mouthpieces, a potpourri dish, 1 charger, the Air unit, a silicone sleeve and this awesome little belt holster! It holds the Air, as well as has two little pouches on the side for mouthpieces or vials of ground bud. A nice touch that really improves the portability factor.
Comparison shot between the brothers:
Heater looks pretty much exactly the same as later Solo models:
The underside of the unit screws off to expose the removable battery:
The battery on the left (green) is one of my high capacity 18650 cells. The red one on the right is the stock battery that came with the Air. From what I can tell (need to do some testing on it) these are standard 2600mAh LiCo cells.
Got a kick out of this, I guess someone forgot to update the reminder slip!
And oh my - it stands up while charging?! Our prayers have been answered!!
And here it is wearing the "coloured case" as the instruction book calls it. I'm going to call it what it is, a vape-condom. Toke safely kids!
My first impressions of this device are extremely favorable. The unit is made out of high quality materials and feels very solid. It's heavy enough to not feel cheap, but is light enough it could comfortably ride along in a decent sized pocket. I'm not usually the best judge of this sort of thing, but I don't smell any robot fart or strange odors coming off of it either. I am preparing to use it for the first time right now, so I will report back with the stuff you really want to know about shortly.
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lwien
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Alright! Look like it's my turn to be the first on the bus finally. Look what came in the mail today?
First pic looks like a Grasshopper pic.
Lets speculate if it will get used.this one single post will decide if I buy this or not..haha.
Herr_Dampf
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Ohmygoshohmygoshohmygoshohmygosh
Same here, refreshing like mad. Got the cart ready for checkout since friday
solovapelife
Vape life
Are those rubber mouth pieces removable? Also it appears that they have a O ring already in the unit!
They look like they are designed to limit air flow with those tiny little holes.