The Arizer Air

[OF]

I've owned my AA for about a week, and this morning, I dropped the bottom metal screw on cap between my car seats. I've searched, and searched and can't find it. Is there a way to replace just the bottom cap? Is there a work around. I'd hate to have to purchase a whole new unit if I don't have to.

Well that's a bummer, I sure hope not theme for the coming year....... This is known technically as "The Law of Selective Gravitation". With the huge area it could have landed in, that cap knew how to find that narrow slot (less than 1% or the target area) where the most damage could happen.

First off, have you tried the 'sticky wire' trick? Take a piece of coat hanger type wire, wrap the end (say an inch and a half?) with tape, sticky side out, and go fishing. You can bend the wire to explore all the places big enough for the little blighter go have slid through in it's ill advised quest for freedom. Renew the tape as needed, discard the old french fries recovered......

You could try to short the bottom of the batter to the spring loaded Gold pin with a wad of Aluminum foil, maybe even taping it in place, but that's sure to get old fast. You really need a cap with a spring. If you're handy you could bend up a spring and washer kluge and put it in the bottom a rubber chair leg tip or plastic cap. The Air is a bit over an inch, but some caps at the hardware store might fit well enough or you could go larger and wrap a layer of tape on the bottom of the tube for a tight fit.

Or, perhaps best of all, contact Arizer? I suspect they've herad this sad story before and will sell you another?

One 'last ditch' idea is to intentionally buy a counterfeit one from DHGate, EBay or whoever. The one I bought to check out indicates the bottom cap, crude as it is, might be the best part of the whole thing. It's rough, but interchanges with the stock one....or at least did for me:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/counterfeit-arizer-air.19948/

There you can see photos of the counterfeit cap and the genuine one you remember.......

Good luck. IMO finding it is the best solution.....I'd be fishing rather than reading the Forum.

OF

 

[Ronald Reagan]

OF. Thanks for the response. I dropped it while driving. Panicked. Tried to use my fingers as pliers, and pushed it further into the blackhole. QUickly pulled over, and after searching a very finite area, it could not be located. Here's where it gets interesting...I decided to take it to a car wash and the vacuum tech to look for it. He said he couldn't find it, but it's now possible his vacuum did. Clearly my fault for looking to take a short-cut and for changing the battery on the fly . I thought about taking the front seat out, but I'm sure I would then have a much bigger issue on my hands. Really hope the kind folks at Arizer will sell me one. I've developed a nice relationship with the AA in the short time we've been together

RR

 

[CarolKing]

That bottom piece off the Air is something that Planetvape should sell. I can see myself losing that piece. Also the little gasket piece. @OF showed us how to replace that but it would be great if some of the little parts could be bought through an online store. They sell some of the little parts for other vaporizers.

For sure Arizer should. Give them a call and ask them about the piece. Maybe they could send you one. Arizer is made in Canada.

@Ronald Reagan sorry for your loss - a bummer.

 

[Ronald Reagan]

Eureka! I went fishing and found it hiding inside the front of the seat track. Many lessons learned here. Thanks everyone.

 

[lookhigh]

BINGO...... OFs advice again.

 

[OF]

BINGO...... OFs advice again.

Random chance......

"Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while...."

Glad it had a happy ending, and nobody got hurt.

OF

 

[overdriveak]

Anyone have an Air similar to the pics and/or description below? I'm a bit surprised by the build quality and trying to determine if I have purchased an authentic Arizer product.

There are a few things strange about it:
1) The top black plastic heater cover is poorly machined as visible in the pictures. When I received the unit I had to clean out plastic bits from the heating chamber. This cover is also visually slightly different around the top than what I have seen in other Air photos.
2) All the rubber covers are horrible and will soon be lost. The chamber cover was already off when I received the unit, and can't get it to stay in its anchoring hole reliably. It always pops out when I manipulate it to access the chamber. Additionally, the cover for the charging plug is hard as heck to open and usually ends up popping off too.
3) It came with Samsung 26H 18650.. This is only a 5.2A continuous draw battery...
4) Are there supposed to be two orings in the chamber? There is only a single rubber piece that runs along the top. The stem is held quite tightly however.
5) Came with a black silicone cover, not clear

 

[CarolKing]

The bottom looks different than mine. I bought mine through Arizer so I know it's not a knock off. This unit was bought the Black Friday Sale that Arizer had right after Thanksgiving 2014.


Edit - This is a black Air as you can tell.

 

[KidFated.]

i have a cap like @overdriveak on my titanium from Randy and a cap like @CarolKing on my black one from a fellow member. Both perform the exact same.

 

[Stevenski]

@overdriveak I suspect you have a counterfeit Air. There are a couple of reasons for this

From my understanding there is a single rubber cylinder that looks like 3 O rings rather than separate O rings. The supplied battery is not to Arizer specs. The end cap inner is different to mine. I have the same text on the battery cap but my internals are different. @OF posted a comparison in the Arizer Air counterfeit, clone, ko thread.

Where did you purchase from? If you have been sold a fugazi then you should be covered under the relevant consumer protections in your country. It sux but I am starting to get an idea of why it is so important to buy from an authorized reseller in the USA. Where I live the consumer is protected & there are heavy penalties for companies breaching those protections.

On the flip side you may have plenty of spare parts for the Air (looking at the 1/4 full glass here)

 

[UnshavenFish]

Anyone have an Air similar to the pics and/or description below? I'm a bit surprised by the build quality and trying to determine if I have purchased an authentic Arizer product.

It looks a little off to me, the holes in the chamber look bigger than they should be and also look a little rough, also the inside of the end cap looks different to mine (if memory serves me right it looks a lot like the fake that @OF bought to test.

Found it...

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-arizer-air.16415/page-303#post-883954

Gentle Friends,

I bought an "Air" from DHGate, well actually "in stock dry herb vaporizer Arizer solo vaporizer Extreme Q Arizer Air Portable Vaporizer vs Mighty vaporizer DHL Free".

If it wasn't counterfeit we'd call it an Air. This is definitely counterfeit.

Notice the screw at the bottom is 'wrong' (in fact the chassis rattles, yes, rattles in the tube. When the cap is on it doesn't rattle, however since the rubber seal at the top of the oven presses hard against the top (no chance for an extra o-ring here). Notice the panel not only doesn't have any protective film like the real ones, but comes with scratches (so you don't have to do it yourself). Are the up and down arrows supposed to be black on this model? The battery, which got here dead flat, is Samsung, not the real one. It's charging now at 830mA (about normal). The bottom cap threads are sloppy and rough, nothing like the real ones and check out the inside of the battery cap, quite crude compared to the original I posted a bit back:

The outside corner of the cap isn't rounded like the black one, it's got a 45 degree bevel instead. No S/N on the cap bottom......in fact no label to put it on......

You can also spot differences in the mouth of the battery compartments:

The genuine one (black, on top) has a metal insert for the screw (rather than blind threads in the plastic......), it also has a battery pad to protect the PCB (and control rattles) in the tube and notice how the counterfeit ground pin has a step in it? All useful clues I think.

The accessories are close, and interchange, but are clearly done on different tooling:

The charger should work, but while I don't have an official one handy (I have a home made charger based on 'the Gadget') I'm pretty sure the factory one is marked 'Arizer'? Not so here:

It's not all bad news, though. The beeper is louder, easier to hear (although that'll probably get 'too loud' complaints) and they've definitely opened the oven holes up even more:

Notice the tool marks on the top of the rubber seal on the counterfeit? Sloppy, didn't bother to polish their tooling, lots of examples of this spread around the unit. It might pass muster if you'd never seen on, but it's obvious side by side.

More when I've poked more.

OF

Edit: One other note, it got here fast, DHL from China in a week give or take? Nothing like PIU, but not as slow as might be.

OF

Next edit: The battery is evidently counterfeit as well (go figure....) it say ICR18650-26F as you can see above, a legit part number for a top of the line 2600mAh unit:
http://neworld.co.il/upload/lithium_battery/Samsung_ICR18650-26F.pdf

The charger, however, says it's closer to 1000mAh than 2600. My gadget terminated at 980mAh and it should have another 10% or so. I'm about to put it on the stand alone battery tester and confirm it's capacity in standardized charge and discharge conditions where genuine ICR18650s (at least I think they're genuine) tested at 2567mAh (close enough to 2600 for jazz).

OF

Seems fake to me, sorry bud, hope I'm wrong (even if I don't think I am)

Best of luck.

 

[Surf Monkey]

DH Gate? Fake.

 

[Stevenski]

Definite fake town special unfortunately

OF's "DH Gate Air" battery cover & battery

Overdriveak's Air with battery & cover

 

[beiberhole69]

All this talk about consumer protection and I am reminded of an article I read in the LA Times recently. It stated that the Lemon Law that people know about for cars covers most electronics.

http://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=18606

Not sure the Arizer would be covered. Most manufacturers don't even know about this though so it's a pain in the butt sometimes, but it's a law and your right

 

[al bundy]

i have a cap like @overdriveak on my titanium from Randy and a cap like @CarolKing on my black one from a fellow member. Both perform the exact same.

How does the inside of the caps look?
@OF knockoff was way different than the original I remember.
Mine looked like Carol king
also from Arizer Black Friday

 

[beiberhole69]

Got my bucket screens from the guy on ebay people linked, but they're not the screens pictured, they have a metal ring around them (wider than the diameter of the stem so can't put it dome down).

Guess I'll try to cut them. Been using brass screens that I just molded and that's been working fine for now. Pretty big disappointment as they were a buck a pop. I like how fine they are though.

 

[Stevenski]

Speaking of screens I have found a standard 20mm S/S screen works well when shaped over a Sharpie marker. It is amazing how many different quality screens there are. The best screen I have found is the "Black Leaf" brand as they are nice & coarse yet shape well. I have been supplied other ones that are the best I have seen but they are so strong they are a real bitch to shape.

I see the N02 screens offered with Solos/Air's all the time. Has anyone tried them out as a pre shaped alternative? Just thinking I can get them for $1 a pop. Either that or I buy a cheap pair of sidecutters at the $0.99 store & order a bunch of Black Leaf screens with a miscellaneous order I have to place in the near future?

If I remember correctly someone here made a die that was a hole in a metal block & a rod that you could press/hammer in there to shape the screen as well & if you have sccess to a drill press you could make one easily enough.

 

[OF]

Anyone have an Air similar to the pics and/or description below? I'm a bit surprised by the build quality and trying to determine if I have purchased an authentic Arizer product.

@overdriveak I suspect you have a counterfeit Air. There are a couple of reasons for this

Yep, counterfeit for sure. The battery is a dead giveaway, IMO. With all the talk around here about how that 'factory battery' is so important (and the warranty depending on it) do you really think Arizer would suddenly change???

And, FWIW, the "Samsung" batter I got appears to be fake as well (go figure), the capacity seems to be about half of expected.

Here's another clue, look carefully at the end cap, this is what it should look like inside:

Note the authentic coil end goes thought the board (not soldered on top), the coil is much better formed of thicker wire, the PCB is different, the retaining 'rivets' much better formed and there's a silkscreen? These are all products of the legitimate tooling Arizer uses making uniform caps.

The charger is probably wrong as well, right? No logo? How about the stem caps, some of the counterfeits are glued on, the one I got has a metal insert in the cap for the threads (molding a precision threaded cap from the type of plastic used is a very tough nut, the insert is a 'work around'.

DH Gate? Fake.

"Oh, say it ain't so, Joe".........

Got my bucket screens from the guy on ebay people linked, but they're not the screens pictured, they have a metal ring around them (wider than the diameter of the stem so can't put it dome down).

Are you sure you bought from the same guy? IIRC what you describe is a standard screen for another vape. A while back I bought some to try on advice, I probably still have a few somewhere. There's also one that looks like a Puritan's hat (flat brim, cone in the middle with the top flattened), I've got some of those too, they work OK but foul fast and need some serious modifications to fit). That all changed when 'good old Sinclue' found the screens and made us wise:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200981331675?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

I sure hope there's a mix up here, I'd hate to think the guy making them has stopped. Then again, that's the sort of frustrating thing that happens all too often these days.

OF

 

[Gardenerjeff]

Screens are not needed imho. Simple is best. Just poke a flower in. No need to grind, hit away. No muss or fuss...

Teaming

Gardenerjeff

 

[OF]

Screens are not needed imho. Simple is best. Just poke a flower in. No need to grind, hit away. No muss or fuss...

Yep, it works that way as well. And I'm sure some owners like it best that way. I'm guessing you have good access to lots of fresh buds?

For some the full output (for a shorter session) from a smaller amount of herb is a big deal. Some just don't get access to prime budlets in good shape. Others like the delay of fouling. Others like to play around.

Simple has it's own charm, too.

One of the great strengths of Solo/Air is versatility. It isn't quite 'all things for all men', but it comes mighty close.

OF

 

[Bravesst]

I love simple, but the bowl is just a bit big and the herb vapes much more evenly with a thinner layer (if ground). If using full nugs, not nearly as important. It's all in the user preference.... Some like red wine, some like white, while others are strictly beer drinkers. No one feels the necessity to change anyone's preferences. Same here.

 

[lookhigh]

I love simple, but the bowl is just a bit big and the herb vapes much more evenly with a thinner layer (if ground). If using full nugs, not nearly as important. It's all in the user preference.... Some like red wine, some like white, while others are strictly beer drinkers. No one feels the necessity to change anyone's preferences. Same here.

I prefer champagne.
Full nug for me, TBH i don't find much difference in a slightly broken up bud or grinded. Flavor lasts a little longer on the full bud and a little less cloudage.

 

[beiberhole69]

Are you sure you bought from the same guy? IIRC what you describe is a standard screen for another vape. A while back I bought some to try on advice, I probably still have a few somewhere. There's also one that looks like a Puritan's hat (flat brim, cone in the middle with the top flattened), I've got some of those too, they work OK but foul fast and need some serious modifications to fit). That all changed when 'good old Sinclue' found the screens and made us wise:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200981331675?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

I sure hope there's a mix up here, I'd hate to think the guy making them has stopped. Then again, that's the sort of frustrating thing that happens all too often these days.

OF

Yep, of course I'm sure. Everythingmustgoco. I sent an email expressing my displeasure but no response yet. Will probably just give the negative feedback and move on... though I know some sellers prefer to rectify their mistakes, so I guess I'll give him a chance to respond today.

These are the ones I got:
https://vapemood.com/product/arizer...TVExNl16JV_lcCeA7JXZFx-Btb6yDEQ1S8aAtFb8P8HAQ

looks like their arizer specific but for another model. I was able to get it out of the metal ring and reform it enough to use it. Gives a much smaller bowl than the brass screens I was using

 

[GetLeft]

Did somone say discrete? Step out for a breath of fresh air, put fingers to mouth as if lost in deep contemplation ...

 

[OF]

Yep, of course I'm sure.

Sorry, but no, those are not the ones in the link I posted, the ones Sinclue found and we like:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200981331675?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

So 'right guy, wrong parts'?

The ones you got are factory screens (not custom after market) for a different model from Arizer, an understandable mistake I guess. As I said at one point that was 'the hot tip', but the ones in the above link are much superior.

FWIW many advise against brass screens from unknown sources, Lead in the mix to make drawing the wire easier (like we used to put it in brass for plumbing fixtures. Good plan to shift to SS, which can also be 'flamed clean'.

Good luck getting it sorted out, IMO it's worth the effort....as I hope you discover.

Did somone say discrete? Step out for a breath of fresh air, put fingers to mouth as if lost in deep contemplation ...

Or are picking your nose........

OF