swieder711
Well-Known Member
This looks like my next vape as it is a bit more portable and discrete than my Solo. Are the power adapters and stems compatible between the solo and air?
The Arizer Air
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CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
You can switch out mouthpieces and GonGs with the Solo and Air. The power adapters aren't interchangeable.
The Air is very stealth with the shorter mouthpiece.
The user replaceable batteries are awesome and last almost an hour each. They cost anywhere from $11 through @CentiZen or $18 through Arizer.
The Air is very stealth with the shorter mouthpiece.
The user replaceable batteries are awesome and last almost an hour each. They cost anywhere from $11 through @CentiZen or $18 through Arizer.
WoodVillain
Backwoods Rated
This may be helpful to others in the future,
I took the chipped stem to my belt sander and lightly brought the diameter down even, then hand sanded it as smooth and even as i could. I'll prolly buy me a torch next week and try and flame polish it the rest of the way smooth. Until i get the torch i think ill just add a piece of silicon tubing to the end just so i dont feel the rough glass.
But this "COULD" possibly work for those people who wanted to shorten their stems as well. I did use tape and wrapped the stem all the way up to the point that i wanted to make the new end, just to help keep it from shattering when using the belt sander.
Now If i new of a local glass blower i would have taken it to them and had them flame polished it and anneal it properly.. But i dont.
I took the chipped stem to my belt sander and lightly brought the diameter down even, then hand sanded it as smooth and even as i could. I'll prolly buy me a torch next week and try and flame polish it the rest of the way smooth. Until i get the torch i think ill just add a piece of silicon tubing to the end just so i dont feel the rough glass.
But this "COULD" possibly work for those people who wanted to shorten their stems as well. I did use tape and wrapped the stem all the way up to the point that i wanted to make the new end, just to help keep it from shattering when using the belt sander.
Now If i new of a local glass blower i would have taken it to them and had them flame polished it and anneal it properly.. But i dont.
stark1
Lonesome Planet
@WoodVillain, what grit belt did you use, and RPM on the sander? I assume fine grit/hi speed combo.
Nice job
(Wood a propane torch from the local hardware AKA Home Depot/ Ace do the job. Is propane hot enough to work glass? LUK, please. Also, perhaps you can touch up the edges with an angle grind/buff using a Dremel as a possible alternative?)
Nice job
(Wood a propane torch from the local hardware AKA Home Depot/ Ace do the job. Is propane hot enough to work glass? LUK, please. Also, perhaps you can touch up the edges with an angle grind/buff using a Dremel as a possible alternative?)
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OF
Well-Known Member
Yes, but there's some skill and understanding needed. You can also wreck it that way too.
You have to be careful grinding glass. Glass is a funny material, actually a very very thick fluid. You can easily introduce tiny stress fractures by too aggressively ripping bits out with a too coarse grinding. That's why 'glass cutting' is done professionally very slowly by fine diamond grit under water drip. Otherwise cracks can happen years later as the stresses collect at the flaws caused by the original cuts.
Fire polishing can correct this, but you need to know what you're doing. Not only does it have to be heated enough to fuse the surface (the yellow burn of the Sodium in the glass being the usual visual guide) but you need to apply this heat uniformly (both 'all around' and 'down the length some') correctly as well. This anneal is critical if you want to remove the stresses and get it to last. You can also end up out of round if you get too carried away with it.
My advice is to follow the 'find a local glass blower to do this for you' advice. Otherwise, if you want to go DIY I recommend serious education (and practice) before risking your stem. Actually, IMO, for amateurs it's probably better to shorten the stem an inch or so instead of grinding (probably using a close fitting wood dowel as a 'handle' on the short end). This too takes some skill, but a small scratch from a file can be stressed enough to crack it around the circumference, ready for fire polishing. Sometimes called 'tube parting', this is the way glass blowers 'cut' tubes.
OF
WoodVillain
Backwoods Rated
@WoodVillain, what grit belt did you use, and RPM on the sander? I assume fine grit/hi speed combo.
Nice job
(Wood a propane torch from the local hardware AKA Home Depot/ Ace do the job. Is propane hot enough to work glass? LUK, please. Also, perhaps you can touch up the edges with an angle grind/buff using a Dremel as a possible alternative?)
Thanks man.
Belt sander was at 3,500 RPM/4,400 SFPM, i started with a high quality 36 grit belt and worked my way up to 300 grit... I dont recommend others doing this without some knowledge and experience with tools and remember face/eye/breathing protection.... And not being scared to completely destroy the stem helps as well.
A cheap torch is indeed enough to flame polish but as OF said care must be given or you can ruin the stem.... The fact the damage was at the very end makes it a bit easier though.
There is a closed/private group of glass blowers on facebook slap full of glass blowers who sell their pieces for thousands of dollars, seen a piece that costs 25,000 a couple days ago (insane i know)... I posted the picture of the stem and asked for guidance on fixing it and have been given some excellent instructions and tips.
But the fact of the matter is im not experienced in glass... Wood and steel sure... Glass not so much, so there is a very real chance of ruining the stem, as OF says above... However you dont learn if you dont try. And worse case scenario im out of an already chipped stem... No worries.
ilikechinesefood
Kitty Meowmein
If youre gonna buy a torch dude, look into blowing some soft glass marbles or whatever for fun you may really like it. Im always looking for advice from professional glassblowers, sounds like a dope group, even if i only make things like 2x a year now 
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Btw which one r u getting?
.Btw which one r u getting?
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MeditativeMind
*Insert 'custom title' here*
Saw this on reddit but don't know if this company is authorized. Air for $165+free shipping with promo code until 3PM Monday
https://www.reddit.com/r/vaporents/comments/2y9be1/arizer_air_165_pax_by_ploom_175/
https://www.reddit.com/r/vaporents/comments/2y9be1/arizer_air_165_pax_by_ploom_175/
stark1
Lonesome Planet
Sounds like you are getting some hands-on experience, Woody.
Keeping the glass slowly turning on a vertical plane while applying the polishing flame? Those who are OCD would prolly want to shape the now viscous glass flat with a flattening tool.
For the pros, exclusively, IMO.
WoodVillain
Backwoods Rated
I keep loosing those little caps 
I have ordered 8.... I still have 3.
Ill be working on a project and change out stems and just set the rubber cap down... In my work area thats like tossing a needle in a hay stack LMAO
One day ill clean everything up and find em all... Or maybe they disappear?
I thought id order some glass tubing and play with it a bit
Not sure on which torch yet. I dont wont to grab too much of a cheapo. But dont want to drop a paycheck either. Ill shop around a bit. Suggestion?
I have ordered 8.... I still have 3. Ill be working on a project and change out stems and just set the rubber cap down... In my work area thats like tossing a needle in a hay stack LMAO
One day ill clean everything up and find em all... Or maybe they disappear?
If youre gonna buy a torch dude, look into blowing some soft glass marbles or whatever for fun you may really like it. Im always looking for advice from professional glassblowers, sounds like a dope group, even if i only make things like 2x a year now
Btw which one r u getting?
I thought id order some glass tubing and play with it a bit
Not sure on which torch yet. I dont wont to grab too much of a cheapo. But dont want to drop a paycheck either. Ill shop around a bit. Suggestion?
stark1
Lonesome Planet
Stem caps can be used if you don't want to buy a torch, and flame polish your one (almost not) defective stem. Punch out a hole in the cap, enuf to expose the inner diameter of the stem, & with the rest of the cap cover covering the width of the sanded glass, & you have a protective sheath over the glass.
Chomping on naked glass is kinda worrying, to me, anyway.
Chomping on naked glass is kinda worrying, to me, anyway.
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Justpassedu
Well-Known Member
I posted it glad you got it. It's a awesome little bubbler enjoy.Received this little guy today:
I'm not sure who posted the link, but it's from pipesdaddy.com
I am enjoying it thus far. It's got an 18mm stem so I'm using a 18mm-14mm reducer.
WoodVillain
Backwoods Rated
The cap is a little too big for the mouthpiece end. I could add some thread tape around the glass and make it work probably... id rather not. Im kind of interested in trying to flame polish it now honestly... Ill practice on some glass tubing beforehand... Just a fun little project.
Just picked up a PVHES shorty stem from the classifieds as well... That'll make 8 stems in total. Im hoping the flame polish goes well of course... But im prepared and wont be upset if i completely destroy it. In fact i may decide to shorten it more later.
al bundy
Vaporist
I've used a propane plumers torch.
I believe you can use a torch lighter too for what you want,
Pm @VaPeD&CoNfUsEd he's the glass blower here.
I believe you can use a torch lighter too for what you want,
Pm @VaPeD&CoNfUsEd he's the glass blower here.
jojo0420
Cloud Chaser
I have used a torch lighter a couple times to smooth broken glass. Last thing was my EQ stir tool, it bounced across my counter and the tip broke off. It left a sharp jagged tip but I was able to smooth it out with a simple torch lighter and a couple minutes of time.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Needed to medicate on the go today while waiting in a parking lot. The Air is stealth and doesn't stand out in a crowd. It does a great job of vaporizing when away from home.
The extra batteries are nice to have on hand too, you never know when there will be a power outage.
The extra batteries are nice to have on hand too, you never know when there will be a power outage.
Nesta
Well-Known Member
After you get some experience using the Air & the Crafty can you give us an in-depth comparison between the two?
From what I've read, the Crafty would be the better vape if it didn't have so many issues. But it doesn't seem reliable at this point, & it's expensive. The Air seems more basic but a solid performer. I'm considering a new portable & I'd like to hear your thoughts.
ilikechinesefood
Kitty Meowmein
id just get a smaller one for awhile...
http://www.talkglass.com/forum/showthread.php?38707-Best-Starter-Torch-Tools-For-Cheap
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
Sorry for the lack on in-depth, but this thread has been quiet for over 8 hours, so I figure something is better than nothing. Experience? Only a couple of weeks with the Air, and a couple of hours with the Crafty! lol
There is a pretty big price difference here, obviously the winner for value is the Air. Both have spectacular flavour, but I think I prefer the Air's flavour...it's tastier I think....the Crafty has a very herby kind of taste/flavour, almost too true to the plant....hard to explain.
The Crafty has the much better airflow, and is more convection in nature compared to the Air IMO. The Crafty is messier to maintain/clean, and has had way more issues than the Air that's forsure. No external batteries, so once you bonk - you gotta charge instead of swapping, and the battery isn't that great for starters compared to to air. The app with smartphone is pretty cool though!
The Crafty is a pretty neat little portable, it's pretty bombproof and fits nicely in the hand and pocket, but I still prefer the Air's form factor, and glass mouthpieces (i'm a plastiphobe). Oh yeah, my buddy said the Crafty stunk really bad of plastic for his first week of usage. The Air didn't have any offgassing that I could detect.
I prefer the Air over the Crafty for several seasons, but value seems to be the biggest. I just can't justify to spend nearly $500 (with tax) on a portable vape (hard enough to convince wifey to spend that on a desktop!) when the Air will work for my purposes for portability just fine. If I had the money burning a hole in my pocket, then i'd get BOTH, but for now i'm saving up for other vapes!
Hope that helped somewhat. I personally feel that the Air is the best flower portable out there IMO, ESPECIALLY for the value! VERY well rounded stealthy portable.
Maine420
GROOVY GRANNY
@biohacker thanks for the review. My next Vape will be the Arizer Air. Arizer makes some great vapes!
Video speaks for itself.
AIR+D020:
AIR+D020:
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
@biohacker Thanks for that informative review. I have been thinking about the Crafty a lot and you helped me with my decision not to buy it. I've noticed all the problems too, I had been sitting on the fence.
I can't justify spending that kind of money on a portable unless it was wonderful. I really enjoy using the Air and it's a very sturdy device with little maintenance and great vapor taste. It works so well with the D020 Bubbler too.
It's nice to be able to swap out glass pieces with the Solo.
I can't justify spending that kind of money on a portable unless it was wonderful. I really enjoy using the Air and it's a very sturdy device with little maintenance and great vapor taste. It works so well with the D020 Bubbler too.
It's nice to be able to swap out glass pieces with the Solo.
Bamafan86
Well-Known Member
I think I'll be pulling the trigger on an air!
It was a toss up between the air and ascent, but I already have GonG stems from my solo that I can use, and the interchangeable batterys is a huge plus!
I can't stand waiting for my solo to charge. What are you guys think?
It was a toss up between the air and ascent, but I already have GonG stems from my solo that I can use, and the interchangeable batterys is a huge plus!
I can't stand waiting for my solo to charge. What are you guys think?
Bamafan86
Well-Known Member
Lmao!!! True that!Well, you are on the Air thread so I think getting yourself an Arizer Air is a GO!