Discontinued Splinter Z by RBT

[Psyentist]

Started from 45W, It had OK flavor because the clouds were big (after 10-15s of drawing), but really huge cloud at 50W
Felt like a pure desktop device, at 50W. Dunno if I'd start at 50W in the beginning. Maybe if I wanted to finish the bowl in 2-3 hits.

PS I never used the XL8R stem, So I knew exactly when to stop my draw. I mean it was easier to perform really well in my first usage of the Z.

Sounds like fun!
I might have to try 50w power mode. Coming from smoking bongs I’m going for the 2-3 hits and done. And I do use the xl8r, not using it would definitely help in power mode to judge when to release the button.
And as far as settings go, the only other thing I would add is I leave the resistance unlocked on the DNA and lock it on the Geekvape.

 

[bossman]

Does anyone know rastabuddhatao's exact settings he is using? He probably has the most perfect settings for the splinter!

Not so much. Ryan keeps it simple and seems to prefer wattage and particularly wattage cruise judging by his ig sessions. He has/had a Paranormal and never uses it anymore (on ig at least). He's got love and awareness for the TC and dna nerding out we do here but I for sure get the impression that he just bangs on basic mods and basic settings plus lots of cruising.

Right now I’m running my custom Z on a Reauleaux gen3 dual. Arctic Fox, 42w preheat for 2 seconds, then auto fire at 35w. I’m turning a xl8r stem in the Splinter on a slow pull. I’m getting incredible flavor and clouds. Good, even extraction. Vapor is delicious. What do I need tc for?

TC is just awesome, especially on a DNAc mod if you can make the effort to get one. Even on the modest rxg3d the ritual, experience, and effects are at that chef kiss level like you already appreciate in wattage but it's its own thing. Lower temp terp hits are tasty in TC on a DNA250C. The precision of TC does make for more even abv than wattage but it also gives you fixed temps to dial in that, along with resistance tweaks, let you craft a different range of hits from wattage. Both are amazing and there's nothing wrong with strongly preferring one mode.

 

[Hippie]

I can't remember the official word on low wattage cruising altho I do remember RBT doing a video of it a while back. I think you're in danger of overheating the epoxy or drying out the wood and the Zed falling apart tho so I don't recommend it.

Still using Arctic Fox on my RX2Gen3 with TCR 125 (default PID values enabled) and 50W max power (45W for the Splinter), here, with the resistance unlocked and Autofire set to 60 seconds max (activated by double click) for hands free action (usually on the bong)

 

[almost there]

@Hippie I'm pretty sure he calls it log mode

 

[RBTcole]

What’s up everybody, just stopping in to say hello. I’m going to make it a habit to be more active on FC from now on.

 

[sickmanfraud]

And I do use the xl8r, not using it would definitely help in power mode to judge when to release the button.

I was concerned about the same thing and I asked the same question in an Ask FC thread. There are only 7 posts including the question.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/cooling-stems-and-unregulated-vapes.43111/

 

[cybrguy]

I have the thicker Custom XL8R that I use with my RBT vapes when not using water, and there is more than adequate feedback. It is certainly much cooler than a straight stem (the point, after all) but not so cool that you can't manage from the feedback. If I am using it with several people it can even get a little too hot and necessitate a pause in vaping to let it cool. The same, of course, is true of the Splinter or Z itself.

 

[Shit Snacks]

I I think you're in danger of overheating the epoxy or drying out the wood and the Zed falling apart tho so I don't recommend it.

We've seen Z's scorch the outside of their wood shell before they fall apart when left running on high wattage... pretty sure there's no real danger of overheating the epoxy here, because the whole point is it's in a spot that does not see high temps of the heater. That is why it is safe in RBT vapes, and I don't know that we've seen a single report of one falling apart due to excessive cruise? Unless I'm mistaken ofcourse!

 

[shervin2]

I've run my Splinter on a constant 65-75W basis and see no sign of glowing hot coils or anything being affected by extreme heat.

Like someone said before me, the coil looks huge and for good reason. It seems to be RBT designed a nice unit for the consumer to tinker with while still giving us a nice safety buffer so if we slip up the unit doesn't go toast.

 

[GoldenBud]

I've run my Splinter on a constant 65-75W basis and see no sign of glowing hot coils or anything being affected by extreme heat.

Like smeone said before me, the coil looks huge and for good reason. It seems to be RBT designed a nice unit for the consumer to tinker with while still giving us a nice safety buffer so if we slip up the unit does go toast.

The wood feels abit hot right? not too hot?
When I ran the Z on 50W it the wood was abit hot, but not too much.

 

[Easywider]

Someone once said. If it feels right it can’t be wrong. In this case, If your not burning your weed. Your not damaging your Z.

 

[shervin2]

The wood feels abit hot right? not too hot?
When I ran the Z on 50W it the wood was abit hot, but not too much.

Yea just a bit hot, but nothing to be concerned at. It's hot enough to kind of melt the dynawax i put on the wood, but then again anything gets that hot.

Again, hats off to the RBT team for a great piece of kit. I just hope the glass on the inside doesnt break, that's my only concern, everything else is bulletproof.

 

[GoldenBud]

Yea just a bit hot, but nothing to be concerned at. It's hot enough to kind of melt the dynawax i put on the wood, but then again anything gets that hot.

Again, hats off to the RBT team for a great piece of kit. I just hope the glass on the inside doesnt break, that's my only concern, everything else is bulletproof.

If there will be a version of Splinter Z 'all wooden' this device is going to be the most sold device ever.

Btw, You sure it's okay to run 15s into 70W? Or you just press just 5s for quick hit?

 

[shervin2]

If there will be a version of Splinter Z 'all wooden' this device is going to be the most sold device ever.

Btw, You sure it's okay to run 15s into 70W? Or you just press just 5s for quick hit?

I hold it down for 5-7 seconds, let go and flutter the fire button to get a nice draw with the airflow I got. Doing a smooth draw the entire time.

You can push the wattage and time longer if you pull stronger.

The z's effects are a different story. It doesn't give me a heady high like the dynavap and sticky brick do, but it's a constant experience every time. I get much more lazy and couch locky with the Z.

 

[cybrguy]

I just hope the glass on the inside doesnt break, that's my only concern, everything else is bulletproof.

The best way to protect the joint is to never leave a stem in the joint when not using the device. All, or at least most of the broken joints seem to be impacts on the stem while in the joint. While not using my Milaana, for example, I nearly always lay it down on it's side. I do the same with Splinters on mods.

If there will be a version of Splinter Z 'all wooden' this device is going to be the most sold device ever.

Btw, You sure it's okay to run 15s into 70W? Or you just press just 5s for quick hit?

There are many wooden stems available, some with glass inserts. I prefer the taste through glass.

 

[GoldenBud]

There are many wooden stems available, some with glass inserts. I prefer the taste through glass.

I mean no glass at all, Inside the Z too.

 

[cybrguy]

Ah. I don't think I would want that but I'm sure there are others like yourself that would. I have thought about getting a wooden stem, however, many times. If I ever get one it will probably be one of Alan's or Ed's with a glass insert.

 

[GoldenBud]

Ah. I don't think I would want that but I'm sure there are others like yourself that would. I have thought about getting a wooden stem, however, many times. If I ever get one it will probably be one of Alan's or Ed's with a glass insert.

I mean the only disadvantage of this device is the glass, breakable

 

[KeroZen]

Disadvantage or advantage, it's all a matter of point of view!

 

[GoldenBud]

Disadvantage or advantage, it's all a matter of point of view!

Gotcha, the wood has its taste/smell..
Well, I'm sure most of the people will be cautious and won't break it..

 

[cybrguy]

I mean the only disadvantage of this device is the glass, breakable

Right. Disadvantage should it break, but an advantage every other way. I have come to appreciate ground glass joints and glass as a vapor path. And glass cleans up easily.

 

[mucsusn]

If there will be a version of Splinter Z 'all wooden' this device is going to be the most sold device ever.

Btw, You sure it's okay to run 15s into 70W? Or you just press just 5s for quick hit?

That would be the iHeat by @Alan. I have two of them, six Spinters in various iterations, and three L’IL Buds. They all kick ass.

 

[sickmanfraud]

Disadvantage or advantage, it's all a matter of point of view!

Sometimes something can be both, advantage and disadvantage even at the same time.

 

[bossman]

Chef kiss for the ZV2!

 

[shervin2]

So I've misunderstood the potency of this device, it gets me much higher, much faster than anything else I've tried.

This may be contender for the easiest and most efficient vaporizer as I am squeezing a lot out of my bud with this one (Albeit, a different high and feel than say a Dynavap or a Mighty).

It's definitely a one hitter bowl for me and I'm good for being "medicated", where as other vapes go through bud much quicker.