Discontinued Splinter Z by RBT

[Hogni]

I know you would prefer the 3 hole one. Little pervert!

 

[KeroZen]

EDIT: "WAS"? Poor mom...

Since it was a reference to the movie, I used the same past stance. But my mom is doing fine, thanks!

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

I have two holes
No restriction here

(No, not a craigslist ad)

Replay has made it easy
43w is still my bubinga spot
I don't bother saving replay

Ergonomics are an issue, but elbow resting on arm of chair helps

I like dividing a 15 second draw into thirds. First third slow, then ramp up speed during next third, then release button and finish fast to get a satisfying full lung. Feel like the first part of draw is just getting load and glass up to proper vaping thermal equilibrium. As usual, the first draw is nearly vaporless, but intensely flavorful. Been getting 6 draws with stir after 3rd.

Tried small load, less than half normal. Worked, but not great. Load shifts, lets too much hot air bypass diluting hit.

Edit: Buying sealed jars in CA is like a box of chocolates. A Splinter Z sized bud from that jar! And that's big.

 

[AJS]

First third slow, then ramp up speed during next third, then release button and finish fast to get a satisfying full lung. Feel like the first part of draw is just getting load and glass up to proper vaping thermal equilibrium.

Yeah very good tactic, something I've done but never really put words to.

As usual, the first draw is nearly vaporless, but intensely flavorful. Been getting 6 draws with stir after 3rd.

I go for cloud on first draw xD Maybe I should slow it down and help bring out the flavor.

Tried small load, less than half normal. Worked, but not great. Load shifts, lets too much hot air bypass diluting hit.

If you use a JHook or bubbler so the load is rightside up (or I guess if you hit upside down), you can use very little amounts. You can just barely barley cover the bottom screen and sorta press down hard so it's really blocking all the holes. Great microdose setup this way without needing a reducer, but doesn't really work in a regular stem at all.

 

[AJS]

Hey all,

Sorry to double post but is too late to edit.

Recorded a lil video using the Splinter Z through water and showing off some fat fat clouds.

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

It's somehow more forgiving than the Milaana I had. Couldn't deal with that one because I'm an incompetent vaporist. So if you are someone like me, not a skilled vaporist with spidey senses, this on-demand vape will satisfy. I've failed miserably with quite a few very popular vapes I read about here on FC. Honestly, I was expecting to fail with this one too. Sure, I still over-roast when I get greedy, unavoidable with this vape style.

In prior post above I forgot to mention the pre-draw button hold. I'm sure different mods and especially settings will require different pre-draw hold times. I like a long hold for first couple draws. Also, that 15 second draw time I spoke of was for illustrative purposes, easily divisible by three. Been doing a lot longer hold times during longer draws. Never could have managed that with Milaana, IME, something to do with the mod evening things out somehow. Anyway, I'm happy with it. Remember my head spinning when reading old Zion and Milaana posts about combinations of battery life and button hold times along some curve, ugg.

Of course I'm not what you would call completely happy. Never am, damnit. Don't like stirring -- inverting, removing stem, grabbing tool, spilling during poke-n-stir. And I don't like the size, shape, or weight. When you look at my poolside picture a couple pages back, my Splinter Z setup looks like one of the buildings. LSV ergonomics without the cord. Been considering a j-hook on top of the 18-18 WPA, but feel I'm rapidly approaching the exit for Sillytown.

Just my luck, the fine print on that Banana Kush jar says "best by 9/9/18." Crap, it's expired. Now I gotta throw it out.

 

[superdang9000]

Just my luck, the fine print on that Banana Kush jar says "best by 9/9/18." Crap, it's expired. Now I gotta throw it out.

Indeed. The best course of action would be to send it my way for immediate disposal.

 

[HerbieVonVapster]

Been talking mostly the Z performance but have too add I'm also very pleased in the wood. Mines a birdseye maple and after a beeswax treatment really has shined up. More and more details seem to appear the older it gets.

Also the way light plays off the maple adds a very neat and ever-changing effects. As it reflects it makes grain appear to move and change. There's bands in the wood that disappear depending on how the lights hits it.

I will try get some pics up this weekend and see if can capture the grain change in a photo.

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

Hey, I had to take that exit to Sillytown, and have arrived at my destination:

Ergonomics are worse; what was I thinking?! Even the stacked totem creatures look sad. Route recalculating

Some will find this humorous: Never unwrapped the RBT stems until today. Wrong size. He sent the Splinter 19/19 with my Z, 3mm too short. Chocolates.

Odd, had to bump up my Replay to 44w from 43w. Hmmm, haven't pressed "save puff" in a while. No, it can't be shifting gears on me because I'm not satisfied with my puff?..., nah, I must be imagining need to raise wattage. Hate subjectivity. OK, looks like I have to get off my stoned lazy ass and hook it up to laptop to watch pretty graphs lie to me. Then figure out how to load custom made profiles from @HerbieVonVapster , and let his gps guide me. Sometimes the light's all shinin' on me, other times I can barely see.

edit: Thank you to RBT for his heater tech, and thanks for running that RBT logo contest couple years ago. Inspired me to play around with ideas, but he didn't like my entry. I've since used it as my FC avatar

 

[Hackerman]

Love that stem. You can see the screen on the 510 while you're using. Awesome.

 

[Summer]

@ChooChooCharlie, is that the StemPod sherlock?

I'm assuming, based on your username, that one of your favorite treats is Good & Plenty?

 

[oddjobold]

i will have to get a SplinterZ. I cant resist the power of a zion.

Damn

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

@ChooChooCharlie, is that the StemPod sherlock?

I'm assuming, based on your username, that one of your favorite treats is Good & Plenty?

Yes, @Summer , got the sherlock from ModPodLabs. It has the needed 19/22 joint for the Z. Can't get away from joints. Would like to try a Tubo wooden stem with S&B caps because I'm a capsule fan. His new dimpled glass inserts look "cool," and a 45 bent style seems comfortable.

And you are so close with my username. The S&B Plenty was the first vape I had fun mucking around with. Now I'm a lost soul, a victim of VAS.

edit: vaped, reflecting on the versatility of the Z -- It works well for experienced rippers like @AJS, and works for milder direct session folks like me. Pretty special

 

[Summer]

Thanks @ChooChooCharlie. When you liked my post, but didn't reply, I attempted to pm you cause I really wanted to know, but pm was blocked so I'm so glad you did answer.

I really like the look of The Hook. (The lacewood is beautiful.) I assume you're talking about RBT dimpled glass, since I saw in a stream that Dan's working on selling one. I spoke with AJS & he said that the dimpled glass significantly reduces harshness. I'm clumsy with glass so I don't know that I want to spend $49 on a stem.

I'm a lost soul, a victim of VAS.

Aren't we all.

 

[HerbieVonVapster]

Odd, had to bump up my Replay to 44w from 43w. Hmmm, haven't pressed "save puff" in a while. No, it can't be shifting gears on me because I'm not satisfied with my puff?..., nah, I must be imagining need to raise wattage. Hate subjectivity. OK, looks like I have to get off my stoned lazy ass and hook it up to laptop to watch pretty graphs lie to me. Then figure out how to load custom made profiles from @HerbieVonVapster , and let his gps guide me. Sometimes the light's all shinin' on me, other times I can barely see.

Easy to do just download file. Open escribe then click open settings from file. Open file this will allow access to all the custom wires in materials along with custom profiles. Find the 316L for 250c works well with splinterZ.

At this point can save whatever profiles or material files if just want them. Or you can plug in device and upload all settings and theme. If you do that save you thermal case settings and mod resistance.

Only issue might be with 3 batteries vs 2 batteries mod. Might have to change it before loading firmware into mod? Let me know if thats the case. Still the profiles and materials are the main thing. The themes basically just Franks with couple small tweaks.

https://forum.evolvapor.com/files/f...ge-and-others-replay-ready-english-italian-✪/

I also see your using replay. If you get a chance to try out my files please let me know how well it graphs out in TC compared to how well replay graphs. I'm finding replay doesn't keep a constant temperature if you vary your draw rate like it does in TC mode. Add that you need redo replay every time you change the temperature I found it more annoying than useful.

I do allow replay to run in the background if a themes giving me any throttling issue that seems to resolve the issue.

I really like the look of The Hook. (The lacewood is beautiful.) I assume you're talking about RBT dimpled glass, since I saw in a stream that Dan's working on selling one. I spoke with AJS & he said that the dimpled glass significantly reduces harshness. I'm clumsy with glass so I don't know that I want to spend $49 on a stem.

The Splinter Z I received came with a dimple glass stem. Been enjoying the change from the wood stems. Sadly my luck with glass also sucks and not sure if I would spend $49 to replace it.

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

@HerbieVonVapster - Thank you for your helpful post. Things didn't work out so well for me. Not your fault, just some comprehension/patience/ability deficit at this end. I have triade 250c and paranormal 250c, and tried loading your fcshare but incompatible apparently with my c's. Then tried Frank's, but escribe couldn't recognize his paranormal 250c ecig as valid. His Triade 250c did load, tried a session live, no vapor, jacked up to 420, no vapor. This is far too confusing and have no idea how you figure all this stuff out. Well, after a couple hours of this, I gave up. Sorry. Thankfully I had saved my original profile, reloaded, and had a 44w Replay session. Thanks again for your help, but I'm helpless.

 

[almost there]

@HerbieVonVapster - Thank you for your helpful post. Things didn't work out so well for me. Not your fault, just some comprehension/patience/ability deficit at this end. I have triade 250c and paranormal 250c, and tried loading your fcshare but incompatible apparently with my c's. Then tried Frank's, but escribe couldn't recognize his paranormal 250c ecig as valid. His Triade 250c did load, tried a session live, no vapor, jacked up to 420, no vapor. This is far too confusing and have no idea how you figure all this stuff out. Well, after a couple hours of this, I gave up. Sorry. Thankfully I had saved my original profile, reloaded, and had a 44w Replay session. Thanks again for your help, but I'm helpless.

Hey man, @HerbieVonVapster has his 250C files set for his paranormal which runs 2 batteries, make sure when u upload the settings to your triade you change the configuration to “3 batteries” or it won’t operate

When u have the triade plugged in, select “mod” then select “battery” on escribe.

 

[HerbieVonVapster]

Hey man, @HerbieVonVapster has his 250C files set for his paranormal which runs 2 batteries, make sure when u upload the settings to your triad you change the configuration to “3 batteries” or it won’t operate

When u have the triad plugged in, select “mod” then select “battery” on escribe.

Thanks for confirming that I though he might need to change something for battery.

I think also some confusion on what file to use. There are 2 on that site. FCSHARE is for the DNA.

DNA75c_250c is for the DNAc devices.

I rearrange the info to be a tad clearer. Sorry about that.

 

[Summer]

I got the Z on Sat. & lathered it with up Ed Tnt's balm along with my Splinter & nano, & wrapped them in the brown paper wrapping from RBT. Pretty much all the balm penetrated in 24 hours, so there wasn't anything to wipe off, just ever-so-lightly buffed with a soft cloth. I did get a little balm in the 2 holes when waxing so used a toothpick to pick out. Just hope I didn't push even a nano-sized piece inside the Z.

So, having just tried it out, all I can say is that it's some hellova powerful heater.

Right now, I'm only using wattage. I honestly don't have the time to spend on learning TCR, let alone, trying to find that 1 post in 1 of the 2 or 3 threads where someone explained to me in baby talk how to download the firmware. ← This is how I look when I think about getting into TCR right now.

So, vapor-wise, I didn't do well. Should have preheated. 1st 2 hits 32w; no vapor, all flavor. Then 35 watts, still no vapor. Then 38 watts, vapor, but a combustion taste even though I didn't. Then stirred & 1 hit at 36 watts. Not as bad as at 38, but burnt tasting still. I think I may have to learn to work the wattage with my draw & firing button on the Z. Unlike the Splinter where I fire 2x, I found myself trying to work the draw & firing 3x. We'll see, as this was only my maiden voyage. Maybe my experience will do a 180° turn next time.

The one thing I do know for sure: Everyone needs an XL8r jr. stem. I think it may be a must have for anyone like me who can't handle any vapor harshness & who would never even consider getting a short stem, the vapor is surprising comfortable -- at least that was my impression the 1st time out.

 

[money2]

The thing that is most evident relative to the size and shape of the Z is the greater need now than there was with the original for an appropriately proportional side by side mod to increase appeal for both commercially.

 

[Summer]

I just took it out for it's 2nd test run. This time I started at 33W for 2 hits & then took 1 hit @34W. Impression this time, & remember, only in wattage mode & not using with water. While just a few hits hit like a mac truck (well, at least for microdosing me, but probably 2nd to the NVFP for you convection vape heavy hitters), I get better taste with the Splinter. I also start the Splinter off on 32W & end up as high as 36 when using dry. You would think that I would need lower temps with the more powerful Z heater, but my use wattage remains the same between them. Why?

Even though I find the long Milaana stem too harsh for use with the Splinter, I'm gonna try it with the Z along with a stem I designed (which I love), to see if I get better taste.

 

[little maggie]

I got the Z on Sat. & lathered it with up Ed Tnt's balm along with my Splinter & nano, & wrapped them in the brown paper wrapping from RBT. Pretty much all the balm penetrated in 24 hours, so there wasn't anything to wipe off, just ever-so-lightly buffed with a soft cloth. I did get a little balm in the 2 holes when waxing so used a toothpick to pick out. Just hope I didn't push even a nano-sized piece inside the Z.

So, having just tried it out, all I can say is that it's some hellova powerful heater.

Right now, I'm only using wattage. I honestly don't have the time to spend on learning TCR, let alone, trying to find that 1 post in 1 of the 2 or 3 threads where someone explained to me in baby talk how to download the firmware. ← This is how I look when I think about getting into TCR right now.

So, vapor-wise, I didn't do well. Should have preheated. 1st 2 hits 32w; no vapor, all flavor. Then 35 watts, still no vapor. Then 38 watts, vapor, but a combustion taste even though I didn't. Then stirred & 1 hit at 36 watts. Not as bad as at 38, but burnt tasting still. I think I may have to learn to work the wattage with my draw & firing button on the Z. Unlike the Splinter where I fire 2x, I found myself trying to work the draw & firing 3x. We'll see, as this was only my maiden voyage. Maybe my experience will do a 180° turn next time.

The one thing I do know for sure: Everyone needs an XL8r jr. stem. I think it may be a must have for anyone like me who can't handle any vapor harshness & who would never even consider getting a short stem, the vapor is surprising comfortable -- at least that was my impression the 1st time out.

My x is waiting until I move home. Where do I get a xl8 stem? I looked on Ryan's site and don't see it.

 

[Summer]

@little maggie, RBT is shut down for 2 or 3 weeks until Ryan tends to other pertinent matters.

In his stream tonight, he got the Splinter China in & demo'd it & he said he was quite pleased. He's even planning to go to China in the near future, & I think drop by VF IIRC, too.

 

[Summer]

Took the Z out for it's run tonight -- somehow I just can't refer to it as a she like you guess can. . My car & other things, .

This time instead of the XL8r jr., I used the Mi long stem I got with my Splinter. The draw on this worked significantly better for me as I was able to gauge the vapor, where I was having a hard time feeling the vapor with the cooling shorty; I guess a testament to it. 5 sec preheat this time; 1 hit 32w, all flavor, but not intense nor tasty; 2nd hit 34w, still no vapor. Last hit 36 watts good vapor for me, but untasty flavor. I use the same dry-use wattages with the Splinter & get good flavor. Surprising to me is that I like the same wattages for both. You'd figure I'd need less wattage with the Z being more powerful. The Splinter gives me the good vapor I want dry, but is very harsh without a special stem I contrived (will get around to posting) while the Z is smooth but lousy tasting. I still have testing to do, but somehow I think that the Z is gonna benefit greatly using TCR. With the Splinter, it was plug & play for me. I just messed around with wattages. For some reason I'm not having the same seameless experience w/ the Z. So, I guess in the near future I'm gonna have to learn TCR. And I also think that where the Z is gonna shine for me is through water. I'll test that out this weekend. But regardless of disappointing taste right now, can't nobody say it doesn't hit hard -- I'm very happy to say.

 

[Other Side]

@Summer the Z requires more wattage than the regular Splinter. I typically run mine at least 4-5w higher.

Not sure on the rest. I was surprised on your experience there.