Silver Surfer Vaporizer

[Raskin666]

@Raskin666 that is one sweet setup and pretty similar to what I want to get going soon. How did you clip it to your bong?

With the "sick clips" from their website. Just a metal Keck clip. The wand was a custom order from SSV with a 14mm Male ground glass end instead of a hose connection. The heater cover is a GG.
My bong has a 14mm female connection. Otherwise, an 18mm male would be better possibly, because the hose could fit in it natively. A hose can stretch over the 14mm male, though, with a bit of difficulty.
I would love to clip the wand to the heater cover, but it would prevent stirring.
Having the option to use the SSV like an LSV saves me the trouble of having two different units, although I'm sure it doesn't function as simply. The all glass setup definitely tastes amazing!

 

[Clunis]

That's an awesome setup @Raskin666!

So, I've been trying out the Vapor Lung mentioned on the last page, and I gotta say, the thing is an absolute monster! It's easy to operate if you're using a 18mm to 14mm GonG adapter or something similar. WPA's aren't necessary because the SSV tubing fits with a airtight seal into a 14mm GonG, although it's a nice addition.

Results will vary depending on how the bag is constructed and the size of bottle used. I'm using a 64 Oz (1.89L) bottle and I've found that to be my ideal size. Secondary to an airtight seal, I found that a well made 'pull tab' is most important to a well operating Vapor Lung and to ensure consistent function. I'd say give it a try if your looking for a bag option for your SSV or any vaporizer for that matter. Feel free to message me if you want tips on how I made mine. Have fun guys!

 

[Raskin666]

That's an awesome setup @Raskin666!

So, I've been trying out the Vapor Lung mentioned on the last page, and I gotta say, the thing is an absolute monster! It's easy to operate if you're using a 18mm to 14mm GonG adapter or something similar. WPA's aren't necessary because the SSV tubing fits with a airtight seal into a 14mm GonG, although it's a nice addition.

Results will vary depending on how the bag is constructed and the size of bottle used. I'm using a 64 Oz (1.89L) bottle and I've found that to be my ideal size. Secondary to an airtight seal, I found that a well made 'pull tab' is most important to a well operating Vapor Lung and to ensure consistent function. I'd say give it a try if your looking for a bag option for your SSV or any vaporizer for that matter. Feel free to message me if you want tips on how I made mine. Have fun guys!

I am very interested in trying this, and I think using a 14mm Gong connection I could hook it up right to my custom wand. What type of bags did you use?

 

[Raskin666]

I am so glad I have kicked combustion entirely. I am laid up at home with a sore throat and fever, and the SSV with water filtration makes medicating so much easier on my throat. And far more effective than any other medicines I've been taking.

 

[slvelocity]

I am so glad I have kicked combustion entirely. I am laid up at home with a sore throat and fever, and the SSV with water filtration makes medicating so much easier on my throat. And far more effective than any other medicines I've been taking.

Agreed!

I'm just coming off a kidney biopsy and the lack of constant coughing and flem has been a god send.

My throat is sensitive so water filtration is a must. I use an ashcatcher and a bubbler because it's that sensitive! But that's the only way I can take advantage of the huge hits the ssv delivers.

Fuck combustion.

 

[ozzietoker]

Hey guys. Very new to all things vaporized (only ever tried MFB and after something harder hitting)

After reading through alot of posts here and on other sites I'm overwhelmed with info. Decided to switch after years of smoking (mainly bongs) and have narrowed it down to the SSV and the Plenty ( tho Extreme q and solo also get great reviews) I think a whip rather than bag would suit me.

It seems the Plenty is more straight forward and harder hitting, but there are things that concern me like large chamber and heating up of wand.
Also reports of users coughing alot.
Can anyone outline why the SSV may be a better choice for me? Can't find any direct comparisons

Cheers guys.

 

[Raskin666]

I have switched to vaporizing around the beginning of January 2014, so I suppose I would say I am new to it (I use a Firefly and an SSV.

I like that the SSV is customizable. Hit it with a whip. Add a vapor tamer or ice chamber. Use a bong. Use a bubbler. Etc. I also like that it is nearly indestructible and a simple design. I like that I can replace anything glass that breaks or even the base plate. For example, if your heater cover breaks, you just go to their website and order a new one, and fairly inexpensively. Reliability, company is located in America, good customer service, easy to use and very clean. I use mine with a bubbler and a bong mostly, and I love it. I flip it on the minute I get home, and when my shoes are off, it is pretty ready to go.

I don't have any experience with the Plenty, although it seems to be a well built unit.

 

[Tweak]

It seems the Plenty is more straight forward and harder hitting, but there are things that concern me like large chamber and heating up of wand.

I haven't tried a Plenty, but I seriously doubt it hits harder than the SSV. I haven't found a vape yet that hits as hard as my SSV.

there are things that concern me like large chamber and heating up of wand.

In the Plenty or the SSV?

You can always get a VB mini wand for the SSV.

 

[hoptimum]

Hey guys. Very new to all things vaporized (only ever tried MFB and after something harder hitting)

After reading through alot of posts here and on other sites I'm overwhelmed with info. Decided to switch after years of smoking (mainly bongs) and have narrowed it down to the SSV and the Plenty ( tho Extreme q and solo also get great reviews) I think a whip rather than bag would suit me.

It seems the Plenty is more straight forward and harder hitting, but there are things that concern me like large chamber and heating up of wand.
Also reports of users coughing alot.
Can anyone outline why the SSV may be a better choice for me? Can't find any direct comparisons

Cheers guys.

Both are plugins. The main difference is that the LSV is a hand-held, direct draw through a glass wand and the SSV is a stationary desktop that uses a whip. If your primary usage is with a bong, you might prefer the LSV, though the SSV also pairs very well with bongs. The heating elements are the same. The EQ or Solo will not hit as hard as any of the 7th floor vapes. I'm not sure about the LSV, but 0.2 grams is more than sufficient for the SSV. People cough because these vaporizers can create big rips, just like people cough if they hit a bong too hard.

 

[ozzietoker]

I have switched to vaporizing around the beginning of January 2014, so I suppose I would say I am new to it (I use a Firefly and an SSV.

I like that the SSV is customizable. Hit it with a whip. Add a vapor tamer or ice chamber. Use a bong. Use a bubbler. Etc. I also like that it is nearly indestructible and a simple design. I like that I can replace anything glass that breaks or even the base plate. For example, if your heater cover breaks, you just go to their website and order a new one, and fairly inexpensively. Reliability, company is located in America, good customer service, easy to use and very clean. I use mine with a bubbler and a bong mostly, and I love it. I flip it on the minute I get home, and when my shoes are off, it is pretty ready to go.

I don't have any experience with the Plenty, although it seems to be a well built unit.

Thanx 4 the replies guys. U are just making it harder for me to decide though!

I like the versatility the SSV seems to have - however it seems it would be alot harder to get the hang of than the Plenty.

I guess there are pros and cons of every make/model so I'm just trying to find the best 4 me as I'm making the transition from smoking.

The glass pieces worry me and I live in Australia so getting new parts may be alot harder. And the Plenty from reports seems to be smoother on the throat so I'd need a water filter - is that extra and how would it work?
It seems temerature control would be easier with the SSV however..

Thanx again 4 your help - I may have to end up getting both but can only afford 1 at the moment!

 

[tuk]

@ozzietoker

I'v only been using the SSV for a couple of months, in terms of creating vapour from plant matter I doubt there is anything better out there, using Tweak's screen mod & dial at 55% I get almost instant thick white vapour, when I tip out the bowl the AVB is uniform dark coffee, If I put the dial to 60% on this set-up then I get combustion. This is how I have mine set-up but I could easily reconfigure this to get combustion with dial eg at 90% or go the other way with dial eg at 50%.

It can handle tiny amounts(0.045g-0.075g), I could go lower if required....so very very efficient & great overall control and versatility.

The great thing about buying a SSV as your first vape ..means it can be used as the benchmark to compare all other vapes, the wands are made of thick glass & not easily broken but why not buy 2 extra wand kits to be safe, even if you decide you hate the SSV you will have no trouble selling in Aus, as you say 7th floor kit is rare there.

The SSV vapour is very smooth and has amazing taste notes, but hooking it up to my D020-D makes it even smoother, very simple to do using the 7th floor hose->glass adapter.

Coming from combustion I cant think of a better first vape for making the transition ...it's very hard hitting & has no ceiling that I've found.

 

[Raskin666]

@ozzietoker

I'v only been using the SSV for a couple of months, in terms of creating vapour from plant matter I doubt there is anything better out there, using Tweak's screen mod & dial at 55% I get almost instant thick white vapour, when I tip out the bowl the AVB is uniform dark coffee, If I put the dial to 60% on this set-up then I get combustion. This is how I have mine set-up but I could easily reconfigure this to get combustion with dial eg at 90% or go the other way with dial eg at 50%.

It can handle tiny amounts(0.045g-0.075g), I could go lower if required....so very very efficient & great overall control and versatility.

The great thing about buying a SSV as your first vape ..means it can be used as the benchmark to compare all other vapes, the wands are made of thick glass & not easily broken but why not buy 2 extra wand kits to be safe, even if you decide you hate the SSV you will have no trouble selling in Aus, as you say 7th floor kit is rare there.

The SSV vapour is very smooth and has amazing taste notes, but hooking it up to my D020-D makes it even smoother, very simple to do using the 7th floor hose->glass adapter.

Coming from combustion I cant think of a better first vape for making the transition ...it's very hard hitting & has no ceiling that I've found.

I also use mine with a D202-D, and it is a great combination

 

[Clunis]

I am very interested in trying this, and I think using a 14mm Gong connection I could hook it up right to my custom wand. What type of bags did you use?

I sent you an inbox but I'll post it here for all to see. I used 1 gallon (3.78 L) freezer bags and cut off the zipper portion using a utility knife to make a nice clean cut.

I feel like it's important to note that you can get a VERY large hit with the vapor lung; akin to a massive bong rip. I find this sets it apart from traditional bag vapes like the EQ or Volcano which I could never get large hits from. I'm thinking this might be because there's a higher vapor:air ratio than a bag vape (someone correct me if I'm wrong; I was just never able to get a large hit out of any bag vape). The Vapor Lung paired with the SSV could be a great option for someone who wants a large bong hit, without the resistance/pressure associated with such a hit. Using a 64 Oz (1.89 L) square bottle I've found that clearing it in 2-3 hits is most efficient but I'm able to clear it in one hit for a little recreational value when I'm feeling it

 

[ozzietoker]

I have switched to vaporizing around the beginning of January 2014, so I suppose I would say I am new to it (I use a Firefly and an SSV.

I like that the SSV is customizable. Hit it with a whip. Add a vapor tamer or ice chamber. Use a bong. Use a bubbler. Etc. I also like that it is nearly indestructible and a simple design. I like that I can replace anything glass that breaks or even the base plate. For example, if your heater cover breaks, you just go to their website and order a new one, and fairly inexpensively. Reliability, company is located in America, good customer service, easy to use and very clean. I use mine with a bubbler and a bong mostly, and I love it. I flip it on the minute I get home, and when my shoes are off, it is pretty ready to go.

I don't have any experience with the Plenty, although it seems to be a well built unit.

Yes the versatility is appealing. I'm not sure if I can get the necessary parts to hook up a waterfilter/bong/ice chamber in Australia.

I've checked out australianvaporizers.com but still not sure which parts are what! Any chance u could visit the site for me and tell me if they have what I'd need?! (sorry I'm very new to all this!)

Also does anyone have/used BOTH the Plenty AND SSV - and if so what the comparisons/pros +cons of each are?

Really appreciate ur help guys.

 

[ozzietoker]

Been looking at as many Vape sites as I can - it seems some (like Toronto Vaporizer,Vaporizer info and Vape Forest) don't have the SSV in their top 10.
Why is that it when other sites (and u guys) rate it so highly? Is the Vapor quality really up there with the best?

 

[grokit]

I've checked out australianvaporizers.com but still not sure which parts are what! Any chance u could visit the site for me and tell me if they have what I'd need?!

The ssv is a heavy hitter, if you're coming from a combustion standpoint you will appreciate that. It can also be used in a more efficient manner. It's a simple device that will last a lifetime, some like more electronic bells and whistles. The glass choices at that website are just what wand/heater cover setup you want, might as well try the spherical glass since it's cheaper than the standard ground glass, or just get the standard. I prefer the standard ground glass without a clip, it's personal and you really can't make a bad choice. Other than that, choose your color and get some spare screens and extra tubing and you're on your way!

 

[Frederick McGuire]

There are no issues getting replacement 7th floor glass here in aus.

If a local retailer doesn't have it (tbh, Australian vaporizers is the only place I know of that sells 7th floor stuff here) you can easily order direct from 7th floor.
They have a $25 flat rate shipping option for small items.

It'll probably be hard to get a WPA from aus vapes, I contacted them once and they said due to our laws they wouldn't stock anything water pipe related (but they also stocked cloud hydratubes :/)

If you're after a cheapie solution, the SSV tubing will fit into one of the metal downstems that go in the agung bongs which seem to be popular around here

I don't really trust review sites for vapes. Too many fanboy reviewers who love their particular unit, or have a financial conflict of interest in the result of the review.

FC here is the greatest possible review site IMO, it has a good sample size of experienced vaporists, who have cumulatively tried just about every vape on the market.

You get to hear direct user experiences instead of potentially biased reports from a reviewer who may not even be very experienced with vapes.

 

[hoptimum]

Been looking at as many Vape sites as I can - it seems some (like Toronto Vaporizer,Vaporizer info and Vape Forest) don't have the SSV in their top 10.
Why is that it when other sites (and u guys) rate it so highly? Is the Vapor quality really up there with the best?

I would not trust a site that did not list the ssv among its top 10 desktop vapes.

 

[ozzietoker]

Cheers @grokit,@hotimum,@Frederick - good point about fanboys and potentially biased reviews. The Vapecritic sems to be the best review site other than this and he rates it.

Unfortunately there is another contender for my decision along with the Plenty and SSV - the Vapexhale Cloud seems great too! BUT there is no "EVO" available from ausvapes -the Vapecritic guy said he had problems with the original eventhough he rated it highly.

How does it compare with the SSV in your opinions?

 

[hoptimum]

Cheers @grokit,@hotimum,@Frederick - good point about fanboys and potentially biased reviews. The Vapecritic sems to be the best review site other than this and he rates it.

Unfortunately there is another contender for my decision along with the Plenty and SSV - the Vapexhale Cloud seems great too! BUT there is no "EVO" available from ausvapes -the Vapecritic guy said he had problems with the original eventhough he rated it highly.

How does it compare with the SSV in your opinions?

Customer support might be a problem. I think the company is only supporting the EVO now.

 

[max]

How does it compare with the SSV in your opinions?

I retired my SSV in favor of the original Cloud (beta Cloud actually) and have had the EVO since it was released. That said, there's no reason why the SSV can't satisfy in the big hit dept. for much less $. The EVO is a vape for the connoisseur and spending that much isn't necessary to get a high quality model. The EVO is great if you can spare the money, but it won't get you more or better vapor.

 

[grokit]

You can't go wrong between the ssv and the evo, the ssv is more reliable at this point but the evo is a step up when it's operating correctly, and mates directly with glass tubes/bubblers/bongs. Stay away from the og cloud models though, they're even more unreliable and support is not happening at all for them.

 

[Vitolo]

See my signature.
All this time.. and the SSV with standard HC and Hand Held wand is still at the top.
I use many other vaporizers.
I have owned most of them.
I still have most of them.
The SSV is the only one on 24/7.. I lower temp at sleep time, and raise it back at wakeup.
I have higher tech Vapes, and more precise vapes, but The SSV is a rock whose vapor quality is always as thick as I please.
It is also one of the sturdiest and LEAST delicate of all Vaporizers.
Almost 3 dozen local patients in our local website have owned one for up to two years.
One has never been returned, or needed repair.

 

[Tweak]

...the ssv is more reliable at this point....

And this is my #1 reason for keeping my SSV.

I keep thinking of lending it to a friend to get them interested in vaporizing, but I just can't let my SSV go,

 

[ozzietoker]

Ok - say I ordered an SSV from "Australian Vaporizers" and wanted to hook up a bong/water filter what extra things from that website would I need to order. Would they have water filters?

Cheers again!