Rosin Technique....Easy DIY Solventless

[toolbox12]

So after a lengthy sesh with a buddy we have decided to build a rosintechnologies press clone. I'll probably start up a new thread so people can collaborate and we can hopefully all benefit. We will be using a pneumatic cylinder and filters, mechanical valve with saftey switch, thermocouple and heating rod with pid control. It's really coming together nicely

This is a new Rosin Press that's coming out soon.

https://instagram.com/gold_ash/

Same user is also selling custom 37 micron sewn pouches for pressing through their IG.

$3500 is what I was quoted when I asked the other day.

 

[shark sandwich]

I had a few bits of rosin and one of them buddered overnight... Interesting...

Earlier this summer I pressed out some rosin to take to a local event, which happened to coincide with a heat and humidity wave. I was using materials and methods that were familiar to me, and I've never had rosin butter out on me before.

I pressed at 160-170F - and the rosin came out beautiful and clear, but started to butter within an hour. I didn't want to take anything that was buttered, so I kept that round for home use and increased temps to almost 200F for the next press. This yielded rosin that did not butter for the few days it was around, under those same conditions that turned the low-temp rosin completely opaque in less than a day.

This is plant and harvest dependent- some strains contain hydrophilic terpenes (which may be present in larger amounts with a later harvest), and those terpenes are more volatile than most. When pressing a particular strain at a low enough temperature, these terpenes can be preserved and present in the rosin in a high enough concentration to pull atmospheric humidity into the rosin, which turns it into an emulsion (like real butter) and makes it cloudy, or buttered out.

There's another mechanism by which rosin can become cloudy or opaque, and that's called whiting out. Whiting out occurs when the ratio of thc to terpenes is so high that the thc can no longer be fully dissolved by the terpenes present, and the thc begins to form a crystal structure, kind of like making rock candy. This is also strain and plant (early harvest- less terpenes) dependent, and temperature dependent. However in this case it's a higher temperature or longer press that could boil off terpenes and contribute to whiting out.

@Quetzalcoatl Looking at the picture you posted, it appears your rosin is whiting out.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Hmm, the only difference between the buddered one and the ones next to it are that the buddered one was a lower temp than what I was used to. It was warm during the day and then nice and cool with a little fog and I had my window opened and fan going (but folded parchment paper).

 

[Joel W.]

Interesting ideas. I pressed some lower temp stuff and it buttered also, My theory was that lower temps did not evaporate all the moisture and some of the water was trapped in the rosin. Sticking above 230 seems to help for me when pressing flowers.

I should try this again and then toss some in the vac chamber and observe it when compared to higher temp (230ish) rosin.

 

[Monsoon]

So after a lengthy sesh with a buddy we have decided to build a rosintechnologies press clone. I'll probably start up a new thread so people can collaborate and we can hopefully all benefit. We will be using a pneumatic cylinder and filters, mechanical valve with saftey switch, thermocouple and heating rod with pid control. It's really coming together nicely

$3500 is what I was quoted when I asked the other day.

Great idea, I'm curious to see it come together and different aspects should be applicable to other rosin methods as well.

Interesting ideas. I pressed some lower temp stuff and it buttered also, My theory was that lower temps did not evaporate all the moisture and some of the water was trapped in the rosin. Sticking above 230 seems to help for me when pressing flowers.

I should try this again and then toss some in the vac chamber and observe it when compared to higher temp (230ish) rosin.

I agree that it's probably moisture in the rosin and the environment didn't help. I believe scraping can cause a nucleation point as well so I wonder if it could also be helped by vac'ing it before you scrape it up.

 

[shark sandwich]

Interesting ideas. I pressed some lower temp stuff and it buttered also, My theory was that lower temps did not evaporate all the moisture and some of the water was trapped in the rosin. Sticking above 230 seems to help for me when pressing flowers.

I should try this again and then toss some in the vac chamber and observe it when compared to higher temp (230ish) rosin.

If you vacuum rosin you'll boil off a lot of terps in addition to any water that's there. A lot of terpenes are more volatile and will boil off before water.

In my last post all the presses described were done with bubble that had been thoroughly vacuum dried and stored sealed in a freezer. The moisture wasn't present before the press, and must have been pulled in from the environment after the press.

@Joel W. I have also seen that, even with a lot of pressure, temps around 230 are ideal for flower. I think the steam pressure is necessary to help express the desired fractions, but moisture level is very important. Too much and you get sizzle, too little and no yield. I think boveda packs are a good way to make sure your moisture level is right.

@Quetzalcoatl If the lower temp press was the only difference, then it probably did butter out. If I think something might butter out, i'll fold the parchment over the slab when not in use, and press it (a cool rosin press works well, if you have one sitting around) so that both sides are fully "stuck" - this might help preserve things a little longer in an adverse environment.

 

[Joel W.]

I believe scraping can cause a nucleation point as well so I wonder if it could also be helped by vac'ing it before you scrape it up.

When I scrape on an Ice pack, If i get it too cold, the rosin does seem to break up into super fine powdered dust/ice particles and looks a bit different afterwards than if I use more paper towels on the ice pack and don't let it get so cold?

@Joel W. I have also seen that, even with a lot of pressure, temps around 230 are ideal for flower. I think the steam pressure is necessary to help express the desired fractions, but moisture level is very important. Too much and you get sizzle, too little and no yield. I think boveda packs are a good way to make sure you're moisture level is right.

This, My yields sucked until I got boveda bags. I believe the rosin needs to catch a ride on the escaping steam to move properly. This is the only thing I can think of to explain how far the rosin travels from the bud and the pattern it leaves in some presses. I use 62% boveda, but I would like to try some higher % bags in the future.

This makes me question whether rosin is truly solvent-less or is it using water moisture as a solvent? Hmmmm.

 

[NorVape]

I've never had any of my stuff butter up on me, but in Barcelona I had some mushy, flavourful goo that was sold as Tahoe OG BHO. I was skeptical due to me being used to my own shatter, but it was very good. Flavourful, and probably the strongest concentrate I've had save a dewaxed QWISO run of four mystery strains I did to test how good of a concentrate I could make if I were VERY anal during a run. That qwiso shatter and this Barca Budder Tahoe OG are the only two dabs that has made me perspirate like a stressed out anime character. Way stronger than my hash rosin, but if budder is inferior why was the Tahoe budder stronger and tastier than my Moroccan hash rosin shatter?

What are the defining qualities and weaknesess of budder compared to say shatter or sap, and why do I get the feeling this is not a wanted result? And why is it extra rare for rosin to budder, compared to solvent based cncentrates?

Sry for noob questions, they should've maybe been in the noob thread, but I feel they fitted with the flow of the conversation here now.

Last night I pressed some OG Kush bud. This is very rare here, so I've decided to let the buds be buds and vape them, but I had to squish a tiny nug, just to try it on the nail.

Wow!

Did five 8-12 sec presses on 120 celcius, dipping it in water when it got to dry. I got one hell of a dab out of it, and now I wanna press the rest of the OG Kush, but idk. Pressing buds feel weird to me, when I live in a place with an abundance of cheap hash.

I've only got two-three grams left, but if I moist say one gram using the wet coffee filter tech, how should I go about getting the most flavourful rosin?

I've read the whole thread, and as many of you know, press lots of hash rosin, so I'm capable of pressing decent dabs from buds as well.

I'm asking spesifically for flavour and terp retaining tips here, rosinators

 

[Monsoon]

When I scrape on an Ice pack, If i get it too cold, the rosin does seem to break up into super fine powdered dust/ice particles and looks a bit different afterwards than if I use more paper towels on the ice pack and don't let it get so cold?

The way Bubbleman does it is he moves the parchment on and off the ice pack as needed, that should give you the consistency needed. Not sure if it contributes to buddering but it is a pain to deal with dust.

This makes me question whether rosin is truly solvent-less or is it using water moisture as a solvent? Hmmmm.

I think it's just semantics and marketing since so many things are solvents, I'd say the main delineation is whether the solvent is hazardous to health if consumed/inhaled.

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Just ordered a PollenMaster 150 dry dift tumbler, I'll provide a review once I get it. The plan is to use it for rosin whenever I get a press setup but I'll use it for kief based QWET in the meantime.

 

[Joel W.]

@NorVape , I am not sure buddering is bad with rosin unlike other concentrates. I just don't like seeing change, I guess.

On pressing flowers. For terps, I'd lower your temp to like 112-115c max.

Rosin tech is a noob, we're all noobs..

 

[tepictoton]

About the budder....

Visually it is not appealing, it is just...

I have to admit the best concentrate I ever had was... Well budder. Changed from chrystal clear into budder in less then two days and I went like shiiiiiiiit.

Now, more then six months later it is still my top concentrate, and I have a little theory.

Maybe the buddering is indeed a side effect of water being present. This is usually seen as a bad thing. Yet I think the presence of water might actually help in preserving more terps? It might help in pulling out more then when no water is present?

Then again, with this rosin tech water seems to be even more important, and maybe there is like a max saturation? Meaning when a certain percentage of water is present it will budder, lower percentage and it will stay clear. Or, when the percentage is low enough it will work as a vehicle to extract in the form of steam and evaporate. When higher some of the stream condensates in the extract, thus making it budder..
Just my two cents

 

[shark sandwich]

I would equate buddering out to chocolate bloom. Buddered out hash and chocolate with bloom don't look as pretty as a the nice, shiny, uniform mass they could be. They're still perfectly safe and delicious, but time and less than perfect storage have taken their toll in both cases.

As @tepictoton points out, the cause is not always environmental. I make chocolate, and it's kind of similar to making rosin. If the temps are too high you ruin the taste, too low and you need to do it all over again, and if water gets into the product the consistency will be ruined and there's no way to save it. It's probably more likely to see budder come from improper production techniques than improper storage techniques.

If the buddering occurs during storage, and not as part of the production process, it does indicate some degradation. As water is drawn into the hash, terpenes are evaporating. So a hash that is buddered may be great, but won't be as great as it once was.

@NorVape - That Tahoe budder you got would have been blasted from flower, so the extract will contain terpenes that were present in the flower but not the trichomes. A lot of terpenes are present outside the trichomes, and as a result, flower rosin tends to be much more terpene rich than hash rosin.

I dont press buds much, but have had success mixing a little flower rosin with a larger amount of hash rosin to make the taste go further.

 

[Joel W.]

So if geology is the study of pressure/heat over time and the prossess of turning organics into oils through heat/pressure over time is also geology then maybe we are all just geologists.
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I think I will add geologist to my résumé.

"Studies geology at Rosin Tech. "

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

So if geology is the study of pressure/heat over time and the prossess of turning organics into oils through heat/pressure over time is also geology then maybe we are all just geologists.
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I think I will add geologist to my résumé.

We may be geologists but I'm definitely stoned.

 

[tepictoton]

Guess this can only mean the stoned ages are just arround the corner?

 

[NorVape]

Yeah, you can call me the GeolO.G.

I pressed some really dry hash yesterday and got some nice, dark shatter.

Pulled a wisdom tooth yesterday, and really don't want a dry socket, so I've been poppin cannacaps and codeine.

Really looking forward to dabbing this rosin tomorrow. My friend says the hash is supposed to be really cerebral.

Gahd, I just wanna do a dab so bad.

*bumping Migos - Dab Bitch*

 

[CrazyDiamond]

Ok damn, I'm buzzed, just had my 500th different beer at WOB...but damn, those last few post made me really lol. Geologists, I'm not so sure...but innovators, free thinkers, and just out and out brainstorming (this thread and some others)....we have some damn intelligent people here and I just wish the rest of the world knew what we know....damn y'all...pale blue dot...google it, listen to it, believe it, live it. Unfortunately most of Terra will never think like this and because of that majority, we may be doomed as a species...but I digress.....


And damn, @NorVape I rememeber when Inhad mine out, 4 dry sockets..."wet" foods for 2 weeks...sucked

 

[NorVape]

And damn, @NorVape I rememeber when Inhad mine out, 4 dry sockets..."wet" foods for 2 weeks...sucked

Aoch!

Was it coz you vaped to early?

I've been thinking alot about the higj wax and fat content in my rosin. I've winterized my rosin to great success before, but I remember some one on this thread pressing the fat out with a small micron screen.

How small must one go, and how do you know if your only getting the fat out?

 

[Joel W.]

25u gets a ton of wax/fat. 15u gets a little more, I am not sure if going smaller is worth it or not? I am looking for tighter screens to try.

 

[farscaper]

here are some 5u 3ply filter screens... not sure if they will be flexible enough for our purposes but there they are.
http://www.twpinc.com/5-micron-sintered-stainless-mesh-t316l-4673

fuck is that shit expensive too!

 

[Joel W.]

So even after filling my 2nd hair iron with epoxy, there is still a max limit of pressure it can withstand. I eventually cracked all the plastic around the heaters leaving just my epoxy and heaters.

So now, I have taken the thicker aluminum heater plates from the dead Revlon irons and I have glued my heaters to the backsides of them. My temp is low now about 20 degrees and it takes a bit longer to reach temp but it works good in a vice. Ugly but functional.

 

[Joel W.]

I broke the above setup a few hours after posting that picture. Then I completely filled my third hair press with 3960psi JB weld and let it set up over night. My first press this morning was amazing but my second press broke both the ceramic heaters.

I am not sure what direction to go now.

 

[shark sandwich]

@Joel W.

To continue working at these kind of pressures you'll need to use either preheated metal plates, or metal blocks with embedded heat elements.

 

[Joel W.]

To continue working at these kind of pressures you'll need to use either preheated metal plates, or metal blocks with embedded heat elements.

Agreed..I really like what you are doing with your copper plates. Nice work!!! I have a bunch of .098" copper nickel plate at work and I plan to weld some up on Monday. Then figure out some heaters for them to fit my vise..

 

[shark sandwich]

@Joel W.

If you're able to weld together multiple plates in a stack to make a block, you could try making the middle one or two plates "U" shaped. That way you'd end up with a slot in each block you could pot a heater into, and that would keep your heaters safe as long as the blocks don't deform.