PLENTY Vaporizer

[EVlL 55]

..hello.
...there's a strong chance some of the technical aspects in this post may be...wrong..but after 3 years I have finally found the root of my problems w/ performance from my plenty.
...I say performance meaning the big,thick,dense,flavorful draws that were always promised in reviews and what not but never achieved,..and I tried...all of it,..grinds,moisture,.pre-heating/soaking,..all that stuff...but same old mediocre results.
And the most annoying thing was the fact that sometimes it would rip,..and a session after,it would deliver weak results..it was driving me crazy,..especially since I paid the full $350.
I just always knew I was doing something not right..and kept plugging away.
(..I won't go into product vs. learning curve here...the machine is a lawn mower..it gobbles it up..).
I realized an aspect of the machine I never took into account,..that is that the plenty is both conduction and convection.
I always packed in the direct center of the screen..today I packed along the outer ring of steel to the center...i used a full crafty load as a reference point of material and put a pad on top.
So now both heat methods were covered and my plenty performed like a monster from cold.
No preheat,..or soaking,..or crazy rain dance bullshit..it just worked.
...I hope my stupidity can help anyone reach they're goal w/ the plenty...
...it's a special piece of gear.

 

[tjsop]

I always packed in the direct center of the screen..today I packed along the outer ring of steel to the center...i used a full crafty load as a reference point of material and put a pad on top.
So now both heat methods were covered and my plenty performed like a monster from cold.

That's exactly what i began to point out in some last of my posts. That the plenty has both depending how you fill it. It does only convection or convection plus conduction like the crafty /mighty.

That's why the plenty is so powerfull. But i wanna add that when you put it on the ring you have more chance to char.. I forgot one time the pad so all the material went on the metal ring and the thing sent me to the moon...

Understanding this comes with experience as its not written in the notice..

 

[biohacker]

I forgot one time the pad so all the material went on the metal ring and the thing sent me to the moon...

You say that like it's a bad thing?

Looking forward to catching up on the thread and finally contributing....Plenty should be here in a couple of weeks! Can't wait......I have a Mighty, used to have a Crafty, and have been extremely impressed by S&B, so since i'm not a huge bag fan, the Cano is out and the Plenty is in! Just a bit worried about feeding it...

 

[tjsop]

You say that like it's a bad thing?

That day i didnt like the experience.. It made a lot of char.. So now i try to not forget it anymore. It made char two times in 6 month. You can increase the temperature by vaping under the sun.. The thing becomes infernal.. That's why it made char coz of the sun plus the ring..

The taste of the char is really bad... And the high remind me a lot the combustion high, the one that transform you into a stone with little nausea. I dont want this anymore..

The plenty is a good vap but i couldnt live without my cano or my crafty as i cant live without my plenty.

No one i think can live with a single vap...There is so much difference between them so regarding the mood you choose this one or the other..

The plenty i like it but the subliminal message from S&B stays " I hope for you that you got a forest "...

You can load it with some material and everything is good but to plenty use the ring with the pad you will have to pack a lot.. The bowl is gigantic.. Really bigger than the volcano !

The plenty is better for the taste and makes no noise that's why i use it also but the volcano offers a so good comfort that i use it much. The volcano offers a zero draw resistance, zero heat in your hand ( i love that the plenty warms me during the winter ) and a bag is lighter than the plenty in your hand, all this together makes me use the cano most often.

So i use my plenty in convection mode and i like it this way. I dont have a forest right now but its planed you know.. One day i will make grow my own plant and this day the plenty will really live for real

I know i am using it at 50% of its capacity but it doesnt bother me as i use the others, for the moment it does what i need, vap in silence with a good taste and make me high. The volcano in the other hand is too noisy..

My final word is that the plenty is preferable for ppl with unlimited material and its perfect like this. It's really good to have this kind of monster. Full convection with little material and convection plus conduction when loaded at half. Well done as usual S&B.

Ppl complaining just didnt get this and dont understand why there is no that dense vapor awaited. They use it as a daily vap also but i dont think that its done for this kind of use. It's like your ferrari, you use it only the weekend. I see it like this. When i put my hand on the plenty i know that i am in mega luxe mode and that will cost in material. Like Porsche and BWM at the gas pump. Dutch ppl do machins that consumes but the result is there.

Dutch ppl are the best in the world concerning the machinerie, its well known.. Every ppl in the world has his strength.. USA its the internet technology, French its the food and the wine, Arab its the oil, India its the spicies etc.. Dutch ppl you dont mess with them when it comes to machine. I wanted a coffe machine do to my coffe the morning with real seed so i went to the market and the vendor was explaining me this and that bla bla bla and i just asked him which machine was the dutch one, so i took the KRUPS brand. In the industry the majority of machines are dutch. They always did things seriously, history proves it.

 

[DorianGray]

That day i didnt like the experience.. It made a lot of char.. So now i try to not forget it anymore. It made char two times in 6 month. You can increase the temperature by vaping under the sun.. The thing becomes infernal.. That's why it made char coz of the sun plus the ring..

The taste of the char is really bad... And the high remind me a lot the combustion high, the one that transform you into a stone with little nausea. I dont want this anymore..

The plenty is a good vap but i couldnt live without my cano or my crafty as i cant live without my plenty.

No one i think can live with a single vap...There is so much difference between them so regarding the mood you choose this one or the other..

The plenty i like it but the subliminal message from S&B stays " I hope for you that you got a forest "...

You can load it with some material and everything is good but to plenty use the ring with the pad you will have to pack a lot.. The bowl is gigantic.. Really bigger than the volcano !

The plenty is better for the taste and makes no noise that's why i use it also but the volcano offers a so good comfort that i use it much. The volcano offers a zero draw resistance, zero heat in your hand ( i love that the plenty warms me during the winter ) and a bag is lighter than the plenty in your hand, all this together makes me use the cano most often.

So i use my plenty in convection mode and i like it this way. I dont have a forest right now but its planed you know.. One day i will make grow my own plant and this day the plenty will really live for real

I know i am using it at 50% of its capacity but it doesnt bother me as i use the others, for the moment it does what i need, vap in silence with a good taste and make me high. The volcano in the other hand is too noisy..

My final word is that the plenty is preferable for ppl with unlimited material and its perfect like this. It's really good to have this kind of monster. Full convection with little material and convection plus conduction when loaded at half. Well done as usual S&B.

Ppl complaining just didnt get this and dont understand why there is no that dense vapor awaited. They use it as a daily vap also but i dont think that its done for this kind of use. It's like your ferrari, you use it only the weekend. I see it like this. When i put my hand on the plenty i know that i am in mega luxe mode and that will cost in material. Like Porsche and BWM at the gas pump. Dutch ppl do machins that consumes but the result is there.

Dutch ppl are the best in the world concerning the machinerie, its well known.. Every ppl in the world has his strength.. USA its the internet technology, French its the food and the wine, Arab its the oil, India its the spicies etc.. Dutch ppl you dont mess with them when it comes to machine. I wanted a coffe machine do to my coffe the morning with real seed so i went to the market and the vendor was explaining me this and that bla bla bla and i just asked him which machine was the dutch one, so i took the KRUPS brand. In the industry the majority of machines are dutch. They always did things seriously, history proves it.

I appreciate your comparison and input. Say you were vaping at home alone and wanted to get considerably baked, and your volcano was not an option. Which would you reach for, the crafty or plenty?

 

[tjsop]

Say you were vaping at home alone and wanted to get considerably baked, and your volcano was not an option. Which would you reach for, the crafty or plenty?

Very good question and the response will depend of the quantity material you have.

If i am in an unlimited way for sure i take the plenty.. No question about this.. The Crafty and the Mighty are just scale model of the plenty for those who got eyes...

But if material is a cost issue maybe the small bowl of the Mighty / Crafty may help to reduce the consumption while the big bowl of the plenty may certainly increase it.

 

[tjsop]

Something strange happened, i didnt put any material but some vapor was coming out from the coil at every hit ! So i took off the pad, i tested again and it stopped so it was coming from there. I dont know if my brother that took it yesterday made something special with or if it was simply to dirty so i decided to clean it and i took the occasion to film.

Cleaning the pad in video

Let the pad in the bath during one hour and then hit it.

To finish some hot water to well evaporate the ethanol. As new.

 

[FlyingLow]

clean pads and screen make a HUGE difference in draw restriction and vapor quality in my experience.

 

[Bravesst]

never sold a vape before... Do I miss her? yeah, kinda yes. It was like having a hot, high maintenance girl friend, she was burning me out and I didn't know it. Back to Mighty (no slouch) and an AA (efficient as hell), which slows me down a bit, conserves. Wish I coulda justified keepin' her around, but alas, she's gone.

 

[tjsop]

In my last post here PLENTY Vaporizer i said Dutch ppl for the machinerie i made a mistake i meant German ppl sorry.. I am french so english its not my cop off tea. Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, Bosch, S&B.. Are all German !

For the little story yesterday i needed to buy a kitchen scale so as usual i went to amazon and i red the comments to take the better one.. They all had bad coments with one or two stars but one brand got comments with only four and five stars.

Guess what ? It was the german one... again.

@Bravesst You will buy it again when you ll realize that your Mighty is doing well but that you dont have anymore a nuclear bombe at home. To understand this you ll need to have unlimited material or being planing to do so, that day you will find your Mighty a bit small..
Seriously, imagine i come to your house with 1KG of OG Kush. Are you going to propose me your Mighty or your Plenty ? .. If you propose me your Mighty i swear i leave

 

[biohacker]

Well you can come to my house with a kilogram of OG Kush anytime you want, because the Plenty will be here tomorrow (i'm hoping!). I have some concerns about feeding it because I definitely don't have an endless supply, but like you said if I bust it out once in a while, it may be worth keeping. I'm hoping to use it with the pad, and circle around the metal ring. I just love my Mighty so much, but think that the Plenty is just a Mighty on steroids so i'm hoping to fall for it. I find if I use the upper temps with the Mighty, the bowl gets cached super quick (unlike say the Arizer Solo, which goes forever IME). So i'm hoping to have some longer sessions with the Plenty!

 

[lazylathe]

Epic session with @biohacker yesterday!!
Started out with the Plenty full of Moby Dick, unfortunately i did not know it was a strong Sativa...
Taste was out of this world and effects so strong i was out of the game for the rest of the day!!
Super sweats that lasted for hours!!

@biohacker let me take the Plenty home for further testing.
Loaded her up with some nice Indica and was again blown away by it's performance!!
Slight weed hog but the oil pad helps a lot in this regard!
All loads come out a nice, medium brown with no burnt taste yet!
I am running it at 6.5, either dry or with a WT.
Dry i tend to cough a bit more while with a WT it is amazing!!!

If i had to describe the Plenty it would be a mixture of the 'Cano and Mighty/Crafty.
Only for me the flavour lasts a lot longer in the Plenty and i do not get that strong "blended" taste that i got fro my Crafty. Vapour is also smoother than my 'Cano but i only use the bags dry so that most likely plays a large part.

So happy this thread is only 37 pages long!!

 

[EVlL 55]

Hello.
...2 days,...w/ 4 seperate sessions using a plenty SCREEN..instead of a liquid pad to use less material w/ out movement. it works like a champ...
...it seems the screen makes a seal of sorts around the inner plastic ring when you draw....it kinda lifts a little..not enough to make a whirlwind of displaced product..but enough to allow nice airflow and it stays put...big improvement.
I also noticed some condensation under my bezel at 6-7 on the dial.
...I contacted S&B to let them know I would be sending it in on warranty...
they replied in 5 minutes saying it's a natural occurrence due to climate change.
...I hope so...cause I remember my shitty mickey mouse watches doing the same thing in the shower when I was a kid...and those watches cost $.50 ....not $350.
It's just daunting to see precip

 

[FlyingLow]

Mine got a spot or to of condensation in there. It comes and goes but is never any substantial amount.
This thing is a power tool, no drip of water is going to put it out or order. One of the most dependable and consistent vapes Ive ever had, this is tough as any being sold today.

 

[EVlL 55]

..here's a shot of my 2 heat exchanges...
ones standard..
the others a 14 to 18 male...the 14 w/ the rubber tubing from the whip seats perfect in the exchange...thus making it basically an evo joint...w/ the 18 to 18 f....you can use lsv,..or ssv wands to create all glass...and see what's Goin on

 

[Falconeer]

..here's a shot of my 2 heat exchanges...
ones standard..
the others a 14 to 18 male...the 14 w/ the rubber tubing from the whip seats perfect in the exchange...thus making it basically an evo joint...w/ the 18 to 18 f....you can use lsv,..or ssv wands to create all glass...and see what's Goin on

Interesting... I have a Plenty from the massdrop sale en route. Colorado based so supply is good, hoping to pair the Plenty with my beloved Jet subZero water pipe. Here's hoping they play nice together.

 

[lazylathe]

Still rocking the Plenty every night!!!
I am going to change my previous statement about it being a weed hog!
If i just cover the screen and use the oil pad, i can have an awesome session with nice big clouds!
Flavour stays for almost the whole session.

As for mating with my WT's, most are 19mm female joints.
I have a 19mm to 14mm reducer that sits in the 19mm joints and the silicone tip on the cooling coil seals perfectly!

 

[lazylathe]

@Bravesst

I am a complete Plenty noob but i have been getting great results!
I grind medium fine, top quality herb and just put enough to cover the screen.
The oil pad is placed directly in the centre of the bowl and the top screwed on.
Screw on top and turn Plenty on to your preferred temp, mine is 6,5.
Let heat up till light clicks off and give it a nice deep, long draw.
I get instant vapor this way! Either dry or through my WT's.
I go till no more vapour is produced and ABV is consistent with what i get out of my Volcano.

If yours produces no vapour i would get it checked out!

EDIT... Just saw your last post...
Pity, the Plenty is quite conservative for me.
3 Just filled bowls, about 0,1 per bowl and i am good for the night.

 

[Bravesst]

@lazylathe
I'm real glad you're getting good use outta the Plenty... take good care of her and she'll take good care of you!
Vape On!

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

Thought you folks would get a chuckle from these pics.
Yes - I'm lazy. Need to blow out window.

Don't use liquid pad now. Just .25 and I like results better.
Clamp keeps plenty stable, prevents small loads from shifting.
Like ease of use with this mod. I know, voiding warranty, holding switch, oh well, goin to hell.
Tired of sending Crafty back, went low tech with Plenty(Off ebay $200)

Kinda like the look. Reminds me of a Duchamp readymade somehow. Helix above and below now.
I use the short tubing so don't have to bend over the thing -- gives you heat sauna directly above.



Clamps have a lot of tension. Not good if you have weaker hands.
Holds well though.
$15 from amazon.

Nice adjustable teaspoon tool. Set it and forget it.

Best part is the even distribution of ABV across screen.

 

[tjsop]

I laughed so much i think my neighbors heard me.

Good job, vaping front of the nature you got it !

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

@tjsop Glad you got a kick out of my lazy setup.

Sometimes so lazy, just sit instead and exhale into little smokebuddie gizmo.
So, still wanted a)vertical stability for no liquid pad; b) No dead man switch c) No "heavy lifting"

Found this cheap $15 iron coffee mug holder. Plenty hangs like mug, almost vertical, switch engaged by gravity. velcro strap holds to base to prevent pivoting.

Very stable, no tipping. Decorative loop at top good to feed silicone tubing as this prevents thin walled tubing from bending in on its own weight. Loop also great to lift and carry, with cord wrapped around base.





Once again, the even distribution of ABV on screen. No liquid pad.

 

[lazylathe]

Loving using the Plenty!!
Just that damn dead mans switch is a constant pain!!

I have it set up by my computer, so take a hit and surf for a while but by the time I am ready for another hit, it has cooled down and I need to activate the switch and wait.

Since I am only loaning the Plenty I do not want to damage it by keeping the DMS activated all the time.
Now I wonder if there is a timer pot inside to increase the time before cooling...
That would make life a lot easier if it could be changed to 5 minutes or even 10.
Something to research!

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

@lazylathe Can understand your concern. I got mine used from ebay, so no going back for me.
Don't see need for worry on DMS issue, as long as you turn Plenty off.
I mean, the thing is supposed to be held while used. Can't understand how a clamp or simple gravity could damage the DMS, especially given the Plenty's "analog" design.

I've been thinking about this since my first post ... will someone take my DMS "fix" idea and pass out/forget, can Plenty cause fire? Perhaps another member can give insight - I know there's an ex-NYFD member out there. Sure the folks at Storz-Bickel let these puppies roast in "on" position for days during their testing.

 

[biohacker]

Not sure why, but I thought you actually had to "press" the DMS? The Plenty is powerful, so I may be dreaming, but I thought that it was designed so you had to actually squeeze and release? My thought was to use duct tape, but then after I played around with it I figured it was pointless...and I swear I read in a review somewhere that S&B designed it that way....I know i'm probably completely wrong though lol.