PLENTY Vaporizer

[TboneToker]

I found the HA2.2 to work well when attached to a glass piece. Does the Plenty work well with less amounts of herb used with the concentrate pad?

Yes the volcano or the plenty work great with less material+liquid pad it affects nothing but the vapor to air ratio, increasing the vapor, effectively lower the total amount of bags or draws you will get but increasing the medicine count per ppm

 

[THE KISS FREAK]

Good Day All im here with my first impressions of my New PLENTY. Decided to purchase directly from S.+B. because I wanted to make sure that I got the latest most up to date version if there was any? It was my 1st purchase from S.+B. & must say it was painless & extremely smooth online transaction. Even Included FREE NEXT DAY Delivery I've usually bought alot of my Vape supplies (Volcano Digit, MiniVap,etc.) from V.N. which has always been an Awesome experience plus they always give you free shit , but I wanted it ASAP (they can be a wee bit slow occasionly on processing when utilizing the free shipping) & not knowing if I'd get the newest.

Got the Plenty and Wear and Tear Kit and extra Bowl. Arrived Friday early evening. Packaging is Wonderful, Strong, Nice foam inserts ( yes this matter to me as I'll use it to trasport ) I like how everything fits inside.

Can't believe I waited soooo long to purchase this saw it a few years back! My first use was Awesome, put in .5 gram of some Top Shelf Headband with pad on top and started at 5.5 and worked my way up to full extraction. All my hits were Amazing Dense, Really Tasty, Cool Vapor All the way thru Flavor lasted till the end with no Taste. I'm truly amazed at how well this thing works and I am surprised that it doesn't garner more public attention & Affection. (only 46 pages here) It completely extracted my Material ( great color AVB) and each hit even the ones at Max temp were Surprisingly Cool to me as I'm used to my MiniVap and even with it's whip it can get a tad hot and uncomfortable. I've had about 7-8 sessions like above with same Medicine and each time i was Nicely Medicated, especially my Very 1st Experience with Plenty, proly the anticipation & end of a long tiring week. It seems to heat up to my set temp rather quickly, couple of minutes it seems. All around Excellent, Awesome Experience

I did alot of research here and elsewhere before purchasing the Plenty. After getting it and trying it, I really don't get all the fuss about the bowl size, it is rather large, but can have Infinite load size capabilities. You put in as Little or as Much as you like. If you don't want to pack it all the way, then put in as Little as you want and use the Liquid Pad to secure the herb in place. It includes the liquid pad and they are not expensive to replace. I can't see them needing replacing that often as the one from my Volcano is still perfectly fine after almost 9 months of sporatic use ( I use it for smaller loads and concentrate in easy bowl). And I've noticed NO Taste or Performance Issues! Plus this thing is Affordable as Hell compared to some of the other High End Vapes out now. Shit my MiniVap is like $600, without a sale. The Plenty is not a true portable, but I'm using it as such cuz I have power where I'm medicating away from home. I've done several bowls yesterday alone from .5 gram, full bowl, like .2 All with Awesome results Flavor City.
I've found my new favorite hand held device I would Highly recommend this Great S&B product.
Happy Vaping/ Medicating/Enjoying Life to ALL

 

[TboneToker]

@THE KISS FREAK ahh yes the plenty! Well considering it's what 300$ it is the lowest priced high end vape, the next one is the aromed.

These two units both seem to be overshadowed by others when they really are top tier especially if you look at prices. If we forget about prices entirely these two are still in the top tier and can compare to any other high end vapes, like Evo, volcano, herbalizer. But for some reason they don't get much attention and I feel it's due to their looks unfortunately.

Edit.. As for the aromed. The company that makes it research and experience seems to be testing out a newer smaller herb chamber for smaller loads and better extraction. I am using one that they sent me I'm like a guinea pig trying it out and it causes the aromed to outperform/or at least match even the highest tier vapes (Evo, herbalizer, mighty, E nano) and to think the first version of it was released 5 years before the volcano and the final version thus far was released in 2004 I believe. I wonder if they'll ever do anything else to it, it's currently the Aromed 4.0, I would guess that a 5.0 would have to be a significant change but I hav3 visions of a retractable coil aromed so it's even smaller and that way they could even make special water adaptors that go on top of the aromed sort of like the Evo it would be really compact

 

[Falconeer]

Greetings folks,
I've owned by Plenty for approximately two years now and have been quite happy with it. I went from an MFLB to a Lotus vape to the Plenty (still use the MFLB for discretion). I'd like the forum's suggestions on a stand/mount idea. I'm looking to connect the Plenty to my subZero water pipe. I've connected the Plenty to the subZero in the past with a 14mm GonG adapter but I don't think this method works well. In particular I suspect connecting the Plenty upside down affects the quality/size of the clouds. Anyway I'd like to find/make a stand that will keep the Plenty upright and stable so I can connect tubing from it to the subZero. In regards to this idea I have a couple of questions:

• What specifications do I want for the tubing? I'm suspecting food safe/temperature safe but am clueless on interior/exterior diameter and anything else (don't know what I don't know).
• Any suggestions for a stand? There was a user some time back who had a coffee mug 'tree' they used. Is this the best method or are there other suggestions? I'm worried I'll pull the Plenty/stand off the table; heavy base and/or clamp. Up to this point I've been assuming I'll get extra tubing and be careful.

Thanks in advance for your time!

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

Hello @Falconeer The mug tree is quite stable. Here's one advantage of the tree stand. Easy changes. Coil hangs out of way:

Using the bong you linked, you should eliminate the steel cooling coil. Redundant cooling. Recent study found thc actives loss of 20-25 percent. Coil cools so well that it condenses out our precious.

So, I would suggest a simple way to hold Plenty rather than using mug tree. You could go for the old standby, the brush as tripod. Or use a little box like I showed on p44. Or even foam packing insert like on p42. Interesting coil-like stand pictured on p13.

When I read in your post that you were concerned about things crashing from table, I began thinking of more stable solutions for you. Went to Harbor Freight Tools and got a hobby vice that suctions to table top. Crap. Doesn't hold suction well.

While wandering the aisles I spotted this wooden handscrew clamp. Heavy, low center of gravity.
Clamp it so that Plenty's butt is suspended off the table surface a bit. Goofy but stable.
Do you get the feeling I have too much time on my hands?

Try this if you want to pimp out the tube connection to the Plenty's black upper chamber.
Looks like an easy way to clear hit, and elbow design allows strain free tubing angle.
http://oregonglassblower.com/Carbed-Glass-Vape-Adapter-18fvc.htm
Perhaps a little silicone O-ring to make seal?

 

[FlyingLow]

For a stand I found the most practical, functional and convenient is simply to use the included brush. Shown and described several times in this thread.

 

[Korgminilogue]

Hello @Falconeer

Using the bong you linked, you should eliminate the steel cooling coil. Redundant cooling. Recent study found thc actives loss of 20-25 percent. Coil cools so well that it condenses out our precious.

Sorry to ask for spoonfeeding but could you please link what I need to use my plenty without the coil? I've skimmed through the 47 pages and can't find it.

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

I have good news, and I have bad news.

Good news: the cooling coil works
Bad news: the cooling coil works

I like cool vapor. I'll keep using it.

@Korgminilogue Here are ways to make attachment to black upper chamber without using cooling coil.

First in two pics on left is an 18mm female placed over the chamber.
Picked up one up in a shop. Loose fit, not good seal bareback.
Ordered cheap high temp half inch ID O-rings on amazon.
Adapter rides on top of O-ring, easy to lift off -- too easy.
If you use direct draw glass like on LSV, better use keck clip.
If I had half inch ID silicone, might make a tight fit.
We need a pro's input here, like @evil 55 or @lazylathe
@elmomuzz was rockin a hydratube on the Plenty a couple years back.

A really snug fit can be had using 14mm male connection like in the third pic.
Same silicone used when metal coil snugs in.
You could directly attach silicone whip (3/8 in ID 1/2 in OD) to this.

That cool Oregon carbed glass adapter uses 18mm female by default, but I'm sure he would make one with a 14mm male.

The last pic on right I did as a masochistic goof. It's an Ascent 14mm water tool adapter.
Wanted to experience a direct draw without cooling coil.
Pinch on screen, weighed 0.06g.
Started drawing as temp rose, testing discomfort, acting like a girly man.
It was warm. Forces you to slow down your draw, which aligned quite well with my recommended slow draw with micro loads.
After a few draws, I went for level seven. Now that was hot. Vapor and glass tube. Level six was better.
I'll stick with using the cooling coil.

 

[highlymedicated]

So I've been using the Plenty for a few days now. I currently own an Extreme Q, HerbalAire H2.2, and a few portables and have owned an Herbalizer in the past. For the price I paid, the Plenty surpasses the Herbalizer easily and is one of the best vapes I have ever owned. This thing may not produce the thickest clouds, but it ultimately gets you the highest. I have been using the 6-6.5 temperature setting for my material, does anyone suggest a different temperature setting to try?

 

[TboneToker]

I suggest the max temperature setting on the plenty. It never gets too hot!

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

I wanted to stay inside, but my Plenty kept begging,

"Can we go sledding? Huh? Sledding, pretty please?"

Don't own a glass piece, but this should work with one.

 

[tx93budsmane]

this is the best thread ever

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

this is the best thread ever

I think you meant, "this is the best forum ever."

Example:
Called my guy yesterday. Nothing until the weekend. Grrr.
But, having read about reclaiming here on FC, I can be patient.
Knew those liquid pads would come in handy some day.

 

[CalyxSmokr]

thinking about a Plenty but am a little confused. I like small bowls but some say it is fine with any amount and others say no. I really am a sipper and not a ripper so is this not the vape for me? Don't mind using the pad and all but still a bit confused. I also want something very efficient. Vapecritic says it is at the top as far as efficiency but have noticed posts in here saying it is not so efficient. How might its efficiency compare to the Enano or Arizer Air which I have experience with?

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

@CalyxSmokr - differing views on this. I use about 0.1g every two hours. Works for me.
Some would say use log vapes for micro loads, and Plenty for big rips/amounts/parties.

For something completely different:
Been doing some thermocouple huffing. Yum.
Thanks to @Stu for the inspiration.

Second pic shows load/screen temp after warm up to 400F
No risk of vaporization "loss" during warmup. It isn't an oven.

Third pic is max score I could get during my huffs.
Pretty good calibration on that old school gauge.

However, during my usual sustained slow draws, load temp was in upper 370's.
So that's why I had to draw rapidly to get good vapor from my reclaim.
And now I understand better the "priming" draws needed to raise load temp.

Keep in mind that my Plenty is an older one.
Different gauge/thermostat calibration is probable over several production years.

But this is obviously a primarily convection vape, for better or worse.

 

[Alan Partridge]

I have good news, and I have bad news.

Good news: the cooling coil works
Bad news: the cooling coil works

I like cool vapor. I'll keep using it.

@Korgminilogue Here are ways to make attachment to black upper chamber without using cooling coil.

First in two pics on left is an 18mm female placed over the chamber.
Picked up one up in a shop. Loose fit, not good seal bareback.
Ordered cheap high temp half inch ID O-rings on amazon.
Adapter rides on top of O-ring, easy to lift off -- too easy.
If you use direct draw glass like on LSV, better use keck clip.
If I had half inch ID silicone, might make a tight fit.
We need a pro's input here, like @evil 55 or @lazylathe
@elmomuzz was rockin a hydratube on the Plenty a couple years back.

A really snug fit can be had using 14mm male connection like in the third pic.
Same silicone used when metal coil snugs in.
You could directly attach silicone whip (3/8 in ID 1/2 in OD) to this.

That cool Oregon carbed glass adapter uses 18mm female by default, but I'm sure he would make one with a 14mm male.

The last pic on right I did as a masochistic goof. It's an Ascent 14mm water tool adapter.
Wanted to experience a direct draw without cooling coil.
Pinch on screen, weighed 0.06g.
Started drawing as temp rose, testing discomfort, acting like a girly man.
It was warm. Forces you to slow down your draw, which aligned quite well with my recommended slow draw with micro loads.
After a few draws, I went for level seven. Now that was hot. Vapor and glass tube. Level six was better.
I'll stick with using the cooling coil.

I tried out what you did in the third pic (well kinda- 14mm male to 18mm female adapter, then an 18mm male to male adapter). Worked perfectly! Had a hydrabomb on it and also inverted it on a FC187. ENDLESS clouds.

Great testing finding out it's convection capabilities- I always said the Plenty is underrated for it's taste.

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

@Alan Partridge : AHA !

Be careful with that glass on a Storz-Bickel vape.
They have an unsettling corporate theme song

Spoiler

 

[justcametomind]

Got a Plenty today.
Best vape I own, except for the big bowl. But it can be detached from the heater so I don't care so much. Heard mixed reports about the liquid pad as a spaces and have to look back for new option someone else invented recently IIRC.
There could be a ton mods to reduce the bowl if this would have gathered more attention. More to us! And the less people know about it, the stealthier it stays.
I think it's the best vape ever to throw in the back of a car or mixed with home appliance without anyone noticing.
I'm going backwards: first I got a Crafty, after years of dreaming about a Volcano. Then a Mighty, since the minivap was no longer an option (long back and forth repair, me being picky about new flavour after a heating core update).
I already lurked and posted here many times but opted for an Evo as my first plug-in and now I sort of regret it. Great party tool but that's it.
The plenty is dependable, doesn't shatter if dropped, it's a tank. Isn't it?
And the flavor is on par if not better. Evo spent bowls smell burnt, never happened on SB vapes except my 2.05 Crafty at max temp. It will be sent in sooner or later, and used sparingly as it deserves: short trip to the grocery @Vitolo style.
Mighty for a (half) day out depending on tolerance, and Plenty at home.
Since I can't wait anymore to play with a Volcano, sooner or later I'll buy that too:
Should I do as many and go buy direct from SB?
The nerdiest option could be buy the base version from SB Germany, they are nice and if I say I have already a easy/solid valve they will probably throw in some proper accessories as a free gift. Then, I could get the valve system from vaposhop where I have a -15% discount until 2.20 as a bonus from a previous purchase on every and only accessories and -10% on vapes as a FC member.
Since I am supposed to have a life, and know how nice SB can be, i ask "Could they be even nicer if I bought a whole Volcano+valve system from them? It's 79€ more but in my case they where very generous just after knowing I bought 2 vapes and asked for 2 cables for my crafty. They gave me something like 4 or 5. And something more just because I asked politely. If that's the rule, if I buy a 500€ system would they ship it with a proportional bonus? Easy+solid valve for the price of one like? I think so. What do you think?
Having owned every SB vape I can envision where minivap future owner probably left SB and what (IIRC he was a SB engineer) a big heritage it owns to the Plenty. I can also say that both C+Mighty are immature and are worth using only OUTSIDE or when on the bed. Their 2 new protables (owned Crafty for 1 year) are also paying the price of the many (IMHO) RMAs for practically no better reason than "give me a new one, battery sucks and I'm under warranty!" masked by fins/bluetooth issue/phone issues/you name it. We basically beta-tested it, much of both their new twin vapes is China made, for the first time I argue for SB? To the point that Melty/Mighty fake units appeared at day one! Otherwise, did you see any Plenty or Volcano clone sold on auction sites as frequently as they do with the Mighty? IF EVER?
This is SB fault or sweatshops just copied it without having the blueprints (well, if they have access to blueprints cause someone outsourced to asia, it happens quicker and that's exactly what happened, isn't it??).
Rant over.
And let's talk about how a Plenty bowl beats hard 10 Cloud evo bowls, lol.
No spent flavor, just jucking german dependability and flavor till the end.
IMHO:
Volcano>/=Plenty>Mighty>Crafty*>miniVap>Evo.
I guess an herbalaire and a Vriptech would come very close to the plenty but I still don't own those 2. Other than that: Sublimator? Zion being a Mighty killer? HOPE SO!
Do you guys think any vape better than the Plenty (or your best option) is/will be out soon?

*(bugs apart, both SB twin units where better on the first revisions imho: low virbation and strong heater. After many RMAs for the weak buzzer (but mostly to take advantage of the warranty) on the C/Mighty it now sports a dildo-like vibration that can be well annoying if you want to vape and share the bed with someone at the same time, just saying.
On top of that, the vibration is out of this world loud and the heating power is reported to be diminished a tad in new C/Mightys. And I confirm my early 2.05 Crafty hits harder that the 34XXX, last version Mighty I recently bought.
I'm becoming quite a fan for S&B. After having tried everything else first, as many here, I guess?

 

[justcametomind]

I still don't know what I like best, spacers of some sort, liquid pads. What I know is that a full bowl is very enjoyable.
I just forgot:
PLENTY>Evo.

 

[smartbass]

hey everyone, i just would like to humbly add my experience with the Plenty. my background prior to own a vaporizer was 15+ years of combusting, with tobacco in the mix. i did try the volcano (and other lower quality ones such as the IOLITE) and was really impressed by it, but didn't really like the baloon thing, the noise, the size of everything and also i wasn't too happy by the idea of spending 400€ on it. plus i thought it would be nice to get as first vape, one that could produce real dense vapour, and that could easily bring me from combustion to vaporization (as many others have mentioned). now after almost 2 years of use (meanwhile i tried some other nice vapes such as the solo, the extreme Q and the HA), i am really happy! i still enjoy combustion, but i got rid of tobacco! i am really satisfied from the strong dense but cool clouds that this machine is able to produce. efficiency using the liquid pad is impressive, it amazes me that some people are complaining on that: even with small loads the Plenty works great and i never end a session unsatisfied. i also do enjoy more smaller/medium loads and vaping everything in one session rather than load a full chamber and vaping it for the whole day with pauses... other nice pros for me with this vape are: it is sturdy, i can hold it and vaping while laying on the couch watching a movie, to me it never gets too hot (except fot the metal parts, but you just have to pay attention to that) but nicely warm, i sometimes like to place it on my chest in winter. i really like the broad chamber and the long cable with makes it suitable for a party mode. it is a home unit, surely not a portable one, but i did bring it over to some friends house sometimes, and it was quite easy... a lot easier than most home units i would say. i enjoy both ripping and sipping, i would say that the plenty works nice for both vaporization styles.

...oh and many many thanks to all FC'ers here who helped me a lot to get the max out my Plenty!

I got the plenty coming in the mail and i been in the forums getting tips ....is it a herb hog?People in here have directed me to the e nano i can understand it is more efficient but i want something that gets me baked

 

[smartbass]

HI community.
I am about to buy a plenty for when I send in my mighty for repair.
Anyone know the latest serial numbers please. I want a new unit.
Thanks

what do you mean new?Are the newer ones made differently??

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

Hello @smartbass , from posts here, it seems Plenty has not changed in any way over the last couple production years. Mine is obviously old, and behaves differently (unsafely in my hands)


Another unsolicited public announcement for new Plenty owners:

Had mentioned a while back that I was not using upper screen.
And no pad, of course.

Only problem with this is that I get lazy about cleaning.
Happily vaping, when suddenly, draw resistance, big time.
Apparently a few drips of resin decided to let go, losing grip on coil's edge.
Just had to huff it out later with empty bowl.

So, I put the screen back in. Now, the resin condenses on screen first.
Gives my feeble brain a signal to clean.
Like going commando vs skid marks. How's that for an image?
Also, try to avoid using the brush to sweep off upper screen.
Gets the bristle tips sticky. Wait till cool and use finger instead.

Remember to dunk iso baggie in very hot water then shake, repeat.
Works like magic before your eyes. Hot 99 iso. Good band name.

In conclusion, don't wait until your screen looks like a gerrymandered election district.

Edit: Re-read this post. Sounds like instructions for a sex toy. Not that I'd know...

 

[cloudsosmoke]

many years ago when i was combusting baccy in school we used to smuggle single cigarette and one swan vesta match for a light - you can strike them almost anywhere ..i seem to remember some guys could light them with their teeth..but that was the bad old smoky days
(..noticed your swan alcohol)


ive had plenty about a month - got it to use as daily driver to save crafty battery

im trying to see if i can do accurate lower temps 165c (329f)

because thermostat is too slow (it has wide temp range) - im trying to do it by keep eye on temp gauge then use on/off switch to keep it within range 155 (311) - 165 (329)


i heat it to 160 (320) then switch off and puff.. itll go up to 165 (329)
im puff it until it drops back to 155 (311)
then switch on again and repeat

so far..
pros
it does hold temp reasonably longish

cons
.. been switching it back on couple of times then forgetting to switch it back off at 160 (320) and its gone up to maybe 200 .. but when that happens i always just let it cool before i draw .. so even if it does happen i never draw above chosen temp

it is a bit slow and clumsy .. the crafty keeps it plus/minus 3c without me doing anything



well ..its early days and i need to practice more



btw

@ChooChooCharlie
thanks for interesting imaginative posts
have got/tried several of the things you suggested

im finding i prefer one of those soft silicone straw mouthpieces atm
i also have a small spring clamp for deadman and a larger one that i can just hang the plenty off if i clip it somewhere

 

[cloudsosmoke]

im not best adviser here but ..
have you tried small loads ..then you could finish bowl and wouldnt have to keep vaping too long

 

[ChooChooCharlie]

High, @cloudsosmoke - Fun learning new things here on FC. Did not know Swan Vestas were matches.
UK House of Swan different company, though. Just international trademark infringement.
My addled mind's eye needs a monocle -- when I read Vestas, I saw Vespas, and started flashing on Merton Parkas and Secret Affair. And belated thanks to Stu for the amazon link for Swan 99% iso.

Fear you will be disappointed in your quest for consistent temps.
When testing with thermocouple, was surprised at the variation in temp during draw.
It is an interesting beast among vapes, though.
Load temp goes up during draw unlike many others. Saw temps vary widely during draw.
I have a suspicion that most vapes vary in load temp during draw, regardless of how steady the vape's heater temp is.

Several threads here regarding temps and vaping. Too confusing for me. I wish you success.
I'm more picky about my tequila than vape temp. That should earn me a warning point, just on principle.

Glad to hear you like the silicone straws. Little funky flavor at start, but goes away. Should have put them in dish washer upper rack first I suppose. And you mentioned clamping your dead man switch! Is it possible there's another Plenty out there with a "fixable" handle switch!? Beginning to think I was losing my mind. Reality check -- lost it years ago. Have feeling that S&B would like to track us down and confiscate our Plentys, and steal my laptop.