Pappy
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Comparing an herb vaporizer to an e-pen is akin to comparing fog from a marine layer to a fog machine.
PAX Era by PAX Labs
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Vaporware
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I think it’s more like the ocean vs a huge tank filled with a not-quite-complete sample of what’s in the ocean.
If you boiled them both you would get similar steam, but it would not be identical, and the tank is both easier to prevent a lot of contaminants in *or* to thoroughly and horribly contaminate.
I also find flower vapor to feel more “full spectrum”, and I think that’s real because you almost have to lose some compounds during the extraction process.
A well done extract is still very good though, in my experience. I do want to make clear distinctions between concentrates/cartridges and dry herb vaporizers, but I don’t think it’s fair to say that using concentrates and cartridges is not vaporizing when it technically is being vaporized *and* we even refer to the use of the relatively questionable stuff that’s in e-cigs as vaping. It wouldn’t be fair to exclude the much better contents of a quality cannabis extract cartridge/pod, and I’m not sure what else we’d even call it.
I often refer to dry herb vaporizers specifically to differentiate them though because what most people think of when they hear vaping/vaporizing is e-cigarettes or cannabis cartridges.
If you boiled them both you would get similar steam, but it would not be identical, and the tank is both easier to prevent a lot of contaminants in *or* to thoroughly and horribly contaminate.
I also find flower vapor to feel more “full spectrum”, and I think that’s real because you almost have to lose some compounds during the extraction process.
A well done extract is still very good though, in my experience. I do want to make clear distinctions between concentrates/cartridges and dry herb vaporizers, but I don’t think it’s fair to say that using concentrates and cartridges is not vaporizing when it technically is being vaporized *and* we even refer to the use of the relatively questionable stuff that’s in e-cigs as vaping. It wouldn’t be fair to exclude the much better contents of a quality cannabis extract cartridge/pod, and I’m not sure what else we’d even call it.
I often refer to dry herb vaporizers specifically to differentiate them though because what most people think of when they hear vaping/vaporizing is e-cigarettes or cannabis cartridges.
I don't think there is anyone on this forum that doesn't understand the difference between vape pens and herbal vapes. It's the rest of the world that is unburdened with the knowledge of this distinction, so there's no need to insult the like-minded. I, too bemoan the fact that "our vapes" get confused so easily by the public with e-cigs and related products (including the Era and the like).
The "v" word has been associated with both, and I'm afraid it's too late to ask people to not refer to the Era-esque devices as vapes. We can only do our best to educate people on the differences between the two. I do this by trying to always refer to my stuff as "dry herb vaporizers" and explain the differences between the two.
We are all on the same team here.
Pappy
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AVENTUS
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Dope. Did anyone else do likewise with a different anti-lint case ?
Also, are there definitive tutorials on refilling Pax Era Pods ?
Does Pax or a 3rd party make borosilicate glass/quartz pods yet that still work flawlessly with an accurate readout, with the Era's smartphone temp control ?
I have been eye'ing the Pax Era since it came out, but was concerned about refilling food-grade-plastic pods with sauces far terpier than what comes in them stock, since I'm an extremely picky low temp terp-snob, and many of my most favored terps have mild solvent properties, especially at higher levels in a nice runny sauce.
One more question, when setting the ERA's temperature at a below-520'F setting using the smartphone app .... will the device ever return to default temp if the mobile app is deleted from one's phone ? Or will it stay lower than 520 (default low outside of mobile app settings) until the battery is deceased, potentially ?
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AVENTUS
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My brother from another !!!!
What temps comprise your range they the course of any given day ?
So, after one finishes clearing the locked pax completely of every last trace of terp vapor as the heat dissipates ..... how soon will it unlock again, ready to draw, without being prompted by shaking it or turning it back on via app?
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There are two rubber plugs: one under each breathing hole. Take your syringe and try to slip needle past a rubber plug:
If you delete app, temp will remain at last setting until you manually change it.
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I did not like the idea of the Pax era at first, nonrefillable pods are a pet peeve of mine
Then I started using it over my vapcap for traveling. So far its my go-to for stealth & when around people who aren't mmj friendly. The nonrefillable pods are my ONLY complaint so far. They can be refilled carefully, but sometimes a refilled pod will leak quite a bit through the "Sleeve" that holds the oils in near the bottom contacts.
So far, refilling a pod 2-3 times has proven safe for me too.
If there was a similar pen or refillable pods, I'd give it a 10/10 based on my experience with it so far, which would be a little over a year i'd say.
Did they ever address their app being removed by apple and if they have plans to replace it/negotiate?
Then I started using it over my vapcap for traveling. So far its my go-to for stealth & when around people who aren't mmj friendly. The nonrefillable pods are my ONLY complaint so far. They can be refilled carefully, but sometimes a refilled pod will leak quite a bit through the "Sleeve" that holds the oils in near the bottom contacts.
So far, refilling a pod 2-3 times has proven safe for me too.
If there was a similar pen or refillable pods, I'd give it a 10/10 based on my experience with it so far, which would be a little over a year i'd say.
Did they ever address their app being removed by apple and if they have plans to replace it/negotiate?
Adobewan
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Take a look at the Ruby and her refillable pods!
JiggyJack
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I believe it is 30 seconds. I think you can cancel that in the app and I know you can cancel it by removing the pod and reinserting it. removing the pod will also cancel session mode unfortunately.
Dispensaries in MA usually put a 1 year expiration date on them but I don't know how long they really are safe to use. I have a bunch of older pods too. Because I go through them so slowly I'm not sure I'll go back to them since I'm still working on newer pods. By the time those get low I'll probably just want a fresh strain anyway. However, I probably would start to get concerned about ones that are over two years old.
They retested a bunch of cartridges/pods here in MA after the VAPI scare and did find that some cartridges that were previously tested as safe now contained unsafe levels of lead. Fortunately, none of the Pax Era pods they retested had this issue. They didn't say how old those carts were.
JiggyJack
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Just got an email about... https://www.pax.com/products/era-pro
twigs
Pay no mind to those voices in my head
Looking forward to your review of this new device. I did not see enough difference between this pro device and the one I already own.
Bought a new pod for trials. I can't link new Pro to old Iphone app. Seems just like the old ERA, just more expensive. But then again, I am a Pro user now.
EDIT: Need Android to access Pro's add'l info. I don't think it works with Iphone. Additionally, uses USB-C instead of old USB connection to charge.
EDIT: Need Android to access Pro's add'l info. I don't think it works with Iphone. Additionally, uses USB-C instead of old USB connection to charge.
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So I loaded the new PAX app available for Android on a slow Tablet I had hanging around. After updating the ERA software, you identify the state you're in and it shows you pods available and you can chose the one that you installed. I can't seem to load testing info.
So the $40 difference is you can read some info on the Pod, but not if you use Apple products. Not worth it.
So the $40 difference is you can read some info on the Pod, but not if you use Apple products. Not worth it.
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No. They look and feel exactly the same. It may charge faster: 45min for full charge.
The new Pro as controlled by Android app has new features:
- The ability to lockout users. You can "lock" ERA so no vapor escapes. No oil can be consumed.
- The ability to "dose control". You can set a limit for ea. session. Claims to monitor actual oil consumption. You can choose from 1 to 4 doses or no limit. I suspect it locks it after your dose profile is given.
- Has a "haptic" (vibrates) feel when: loading a new Pod; connecting w/app; completion of dosage; changing a setting eg "brightness"
- Neither of my new pods purchased from Leafwerx (a WA State producer) had info on oil. Info displayed is provided by oil company to PAX
- Era Pro pods remembers consumer preferences for all future sessions.
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JamesTiberiousKirk
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I bought a different brand of pod (Phat Panda). No oil info was available on the app. Perhaps it's still too new. It's nice it has the ability, but if none of the oil companies are complying with supplying info, kind of lame. These are Washington State pod companies. The new Pod packages comply with California State requirements for "childproof" packaging that I saw while visiting SoCal.
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Vape 4 Life
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Hi everyone. Anybody have feedback on these refillable pods or point me in the right direction?
https://dankshop.com/product/vapemons-thc-compatible-empty-replacement-cartidges-3ct-box/
https://dankshop.com/product/vapemons-thc-compatible-empty-replacement-cartidges-3ct-box/
Wow! First time I've seen those. If they work, great!