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I'll try to answer all the questions that have built up here, but please let me know if I misconstrue or miss something.
even the screen in glass.
We've tested a half dozen different types of glass and ceramic screens, but we found they all reduce airflow restriction by ~50% or more. For our base model we decided ease of breathing while still utilizing an inert material was a priority. However, we will still offer a glass screen add on.
There are many designs out there that do not use out dated whips and ceramic heating elements
I don't understand what makes a whip "outdated" in your opinion? Is this a material science reservation you hold? While an all glass path is believed to be ideal, even glass can outgass toxic byproducts into vapor at high enough temperatures. There is no such thing as a carte blanche safe material per se, only a safe temperature operating zone, of which only few materials meet within our planet and products environmental conditions. We've tested and the temperatures that hit our medical grade silicone are well below the thermal limits, which make silicone an inert material in our product.
Same question for ceramic? Al2O3 is essentially the ash of aluminum. What do you see wrong with this material?
I also own a Super Surfer Vape that can be left on all day without getting crazyhit and not being able to touch it. Not really experienced that with any of my vaporizers.
"crazyhot" temperatures are a not just a matter of temperature alone, but also skin thickness, skin cell type (think calluses), and time exposure. Sensitive thin skin is more prone to cellular damage at lower temperatures and shorter time than thick-skinned callused hands. I've experienced this with portables and desktops alike. I believe the Vapexhale's heat shield stands as evidence of this common industry design problem. What do you do for a living? Do you have callused hands?
Would like to see some use videos and the resultant ABV picture.
We're working on use video's now and will post some pictures of the ABV soon!
I personally think glowing ceramic and silicone are much much worse than using metal in the airpath.
I'm confused, metal in the airpath is not a comparable to a ceramic element (different temp zones), although a metal heat exchanger is, like the aluminum one found in a Volcano. The comparison you're making is on two different parts of the product. If you're comparing a ceramic element to a metal element, I disagree.
Maybe I can't see it in the picture but is there a screen in front of the heater making it so no material can into that chamber?
There is not, but we're looking at one way valves to help prevent this, though it will again be at the cost of intake resistance.
@OnsenLabs I agree with the feedback you have received:
1) Horizontal stem is not practical with concentrates
2) Ceramic heater in air path is no different than many whip vapes, 7th Floor comes to mind
3) Silicon Whip, but all glass and titanium elsewhere?
1) Our current version isn't designed for concentrates yet. Although it's on our development plan to have an add on mod to the existing unit for concentrates, which replaces the heater cover and adds a dish to the element.
2)We've modded our ceramic element to have more surface area and baffled the airflow around our hot spot to increase thermal efficiency. To this respect, we are not like any other vaporizer than I'm aware.
3) Redundant to the former quote, but again, what is your reservation with silicone? Do you have a material science argument or maybe I've answered it by this point?
User experience is about more than the product; it's marketing; I understand we're not the only book that others have read and even after you've read us, I understand there is often a strong bond with other brands 'feels'. Although we might not be a good fit for you, we're not claiming to be a fit for everyone. But we are an excellent fit for those concerned with out-gassing, secondary heat issues, ease of inhale, ease of cleaning, hygiene, and culturally neutral aesthetics.
What differences would I find in use between this and the Da Buddha? Why should I choose this over that?
Mentioned above, re-quoting:
- We've designed an inert hot zone (see image above).
- The element has more surface area and a tapered baffle around the element's hot spot to increase air velocity, thus creating a more efficient thermal exchange without sacrificing ease of inhalation.
- I'm unfamiliar with others' circuits offhand, but we have auto-power inhalation attenuation, which normalizes the heat drawn over the herb sample according to power draw from the users breath.
- We utilize Grade 2 Titanium screens in the vape zone; others use stainless steel or brass.
- Patent pending multi-layered thermal isolation and integrated cooling makes this an all day workhorse vape, where many others' products get uncomfortably hot to the touch, we took the time to properly deal with the secondary heat problem.
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- Our Desktop Pro model uses clear parts so that users can easily inspect the equipment for foreign objects and cleanliness.
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- Lastly, and maybe most socially important right now, we've designed the standard Desktop Pro model's aesthetics to be neutral; devoid of the 1970's counter-culture that is often off-putting to former prohibitionists and the scientific community at large. We wanted a user experience that my Grandma would feel comfortable having, and that would make it more difficult for others to stereotype and judge. Not that we won't offer fun upgrades in the future, but for this model we wanted the user experience to be that of a scientific control, or the least bit bias effecting towards the users experience. Society is watching us closely right now; this is our attempt to help us be responsible with that perception. Thus making it easier for health and wellness professionals to recommend our equipment, while minimizing their concern of sending a user into an otherwise often perceived abuse culture.
- The above points all contribute to what we dub 'Laboratory Grade'.
And no response from the OP, I guess ignorance is bliss? Are they hoping only to deal with the naive?
Sorry for the late reply! We're not trying to fool anyone, what doesn't sit right for yo
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and me no likey them...
Science has shown us that metals out-gas in a vacuum, and increasingly so at higher temperatures. In my anecdotal experiences, from vape pens to desktops, I wasn't getting the quality vapor I desired; I tasted metals; which is why an inert hot zone was a central focus point for us.
