fidget
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Thanks - there are no local shops that sell glass I'm afraid. I'll ask him about the one you mention.
Life Saber (LSV) by Elev8 Vehicles
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delloy
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@fidget I just picked up an 18mm male to male up off ebay here in the UK if that helps 
http://tinyurl.com/npxdoeu
http://tinyurl.com/npxdoeu
fidget
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Thanks - I've got two on the way (one carbed) from Oregon Glass Blower but have just bought this as well@fidget I just picked up an 18mm male to male up off ebay here in the UK if that helps
http://tinyurl.com/npxdoeu
fidget
Well-Known Member
My LSV arrived today! I never vape during the day but have the afternoon off and my wife is doing the school run and i've got a new toy sooooooooo....
Had a root around in my vapes box to see if there was anything I could use as a water adapter til mine arrive.
Started with two EQ elbow joints connected by hose - that works.
Then found an glass screen adapter (cant remember which log vape is was meant for) I ordered for my wychwood that didnt fit.
Managed to jerry rig it with a piece of silicone hose so it now fits.
Loaded with 0.07g! Purple Durban
Wow - I'm an LSV covert. The taste is amazing.
Had a root around in my vapes box to see if there was anything I could use as a water adapter til mine arrive.
Started with two EQ elbow joints connected by hose - that works.
Then found an glass screen adapter (cant remember which log vape is was meant for) I ordered for my wychwood that didnt fit.
Managed to jerry rig it with a piece of silicone hose so it now fits.
Loaded with 0.07g! Purple Durban
Wow - I'm an LSV covert. The taste is amazing.
grokit
well-worn member
Elb = easy-load bowl; it's a "screen-capsule" made for the vapexhale cloud/evo vaporizers. They also fit in an 18mm female glass fitting like the eq (made for the arizer extreme q vaporizer) elbow screens.
Where's the best (cheapest) place to buy both online for US shipping, currently? This looks awesome!
grokit
well-worn member
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
I haven't been around in a while, but just noticed some of the posts regarding ELBs. I know it's been said before but it's best to say it again - the ELBs do not fit in many 18mm double male (M2M) adapters. My luck was that they fit in 2 out of the 7 adapters I tried. The worst luck I had were the cheaper dhgate adapters.
Starting to re-think the LSV again, and may have to RE-pull the trigger! I should of given the WPA a chance! Then again, the VripTech keeps calling my name. Any reason to go LSV over VHW?
Starting to re-think the LSV again, and may have to RE-pull the trigger! I should of given the WPA a chance! Then again, the VripTech keeps calling my name. Any reason to go LSV over VHW?
Frederick McGuire
Aggressively Loungey
My understanding is that he lsv is more durable (and cheaper to repair if something does go wrong), easier to use, and heats up quicker.
I've never tried a VHW, but from what I know of it the only main advantage it should add over the lsv is better flavour due to the all glass air path.
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
Yep, super quick and easy - just ordered the LSV again! Vaped.ca's price of $179 CDN with free grinder/shipping was just impossible to pass up! It's like getting a brand new LSV for a blemished LSV price.
Now I just need to secure the OEM WPA in 19mm which is difficult being in Canada without paying 3 times what it's worth. 7th floor seems the best bet at $20, but the $35 in shipping makes it a bust for me. I think I found a US site that has them for $18ish with $8 shipping but completely lost the web URL! I'll have to keep trying though as they also have the VHW for $150.
I found this old thread and figured it may help somebody in my shoes trying to decide. I have extremely limited experience with the VHW, but really like the newer bowl design, and the flavour is absolutely the tits! I think i'll find a time and place for both vapes, especially at this incredible prices!
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vhw-vs-lsv.3320/
Now I just need to secure the OEM WPA in 19mm which is difficult being in Canada without paying 3 times what it's worth. 7th floor seems the best bet at $20, but the $35 in shipping makes it a bust for me. I think I found a US site that has them for $18ish with $8 shipping but completely lost the web URL! I'll have to keep trying though as they also have the VHW for $150.
I found this old thread and figured it may help somebody in my shoes trying to decide. I have extremely limited experience with the VHW, but really like the newer bowl design, and the flavour is absolutely the tits! I think i'll find a time and place for both vapes, especially at this incredible prices!
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vhw-vs-lsv.3320/
DorianGray
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the LSV with WPA is my favourite way to hit it. 
The m2m with basket method produces more dense vapour but its harder to get a uniform extraction and also flavour takes a major hit. Cleaning out those baskets is a pain too.
welcome back to the lsv, i look forward to reading about your experience with it.
The m2m with basket method produces more dense vapour but its harder to get a uniform extraction and also flavour takes a major hit. Cleaning out those baskets is a pain too.
welcome back to the lsv, i look forward to reading about your experience with it.
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
I quickly got over the ELB and EQ elb techniques and settled on the M2M with 1/2" screen. It was good, but sometimes frustrating with mixed results and ultimately I preferred my Mighty. Now that the honeymoon phase with the Mighty is over, I feel the pull back to the LSV as my desktop. I think soon i'll pickup the VHW to compliment (not replace) it. Miss the taste and effortless draw, and the massive punch to the face hits!
Thanks for the welcome back! I remember giving up on the E-Nano for the LSV, and I don't see myself going back to that, so this must mean something!
Thanks for the welcome back! I remember giving up on the E-Nano for the LSV, and I don't see myself going back to that, so this must mean something!
That's nuts! I have three 18mm m2m adapters. My ELB's fit perfectly into one of the m2m's, and the other is a bit snug, but works great. All of my m2m's are freebies included with DHgate purchases.
Trust me, as soon as I find a high-temperature food-safe material to 3D print with, I'll be making all sort of exotic WPA's for the LSV (and other vapes). I've got about a million ideas brewing as soon as I have access to those materials.
Lol yeah I find myself using the Nano when I'm alone, and pulling out the LSV when I have friends over
But damn I love the taste from my LSV - sooo tasty
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
I ruined a bunch of ELBs as well trying....no big deal as I eventually didn't like using that technique, and i've become alot more paranoid with metals since i've been tested to have higher than normal lead levels. I know it's inert stainless, but definitely makes me rethink and be more cautious.
I can't say i have ever tasted a difference between all glass and glass/ceramic airpath.My understanding is that he lsv is more durable (and cheaper to repair if something does go wrong), easier to use, and heats up quicker.
I've never tried a VHW, but from what I know of it the only main advantage it should add over the lsv is better flavour due to the all glass air path.
Anyone have any personal experiences?
I cant imagine the physicality of the situation trumps the psychology of it. But then again i cant imagine alot
Also +1 for the WPA, i have been using that the past few days after i stood on my super-surfers HC
I forgot how many crazy hits i can get from a single bowl, took me about an hour to finish one
stickstones
Vapor concierge
I tend to think I notice a little bit of bite to my ceramic element vapes...almost like an edge or slight harshness. I also tend to notice something in vapes with a stainless steel heat exchanger. I don't notice this in my all glass air path vapes. But I can also point you to some very experienced and respected vaporists who don't notice this, so I would never suggest it as an absolute.
DorianGray
Well-Known Member
I wonder if we could use something like as a LSV stand.
Damn that LSV stand keeps eluding me! it is a simple task too.
I need to sort out my evernote lists again!
Anyhooser, i came to ask if anyone had tried using a ceramic flavour disk as a heat diffuser in the WPA?
I think someone suggested the crafty pad from the storz portable (maybe the mighty) and i must say, it is amazing.
I reckon the pad mentioned before will be superior, but just using the ceramic disk allows me to vape an entire bowl with no stirring!
None!
I swear, i will need to video it.
The only drawback is that i can't fully toast the bud and have to use the unit at max temp (due to the ceramic disk constantly stealing and tossing heat during and inbetween heating respectively (hence why the pad will be better).
This has me thinking that a much thinner disk (about 1/4 the depth of mine) would be much better suited.
here's two pics anyway while i'm talking about it.
This certainly has me thinking this needs to be improved and implemented, maybe a HC that has a heat spreader (diffuser?! i don't know what to call it, im fried from using the fucker
) or just reduce the flavour disks depth by 75% and then we can stick them on top of a bowl.
I also found it makes it much harder to scorch so it would make it friendlier for newbies also.
Though i do like the idea of a HC that has a thin porous ceramic disk in it to serve the same purpose without me having to hold and likely lose them every bowl.
On a side note: I just got my results back for my thesis on a dry herb vaporizer prototype - pulled of a 1st class honours degree with a god damn cannabis vape at a UK university haha! My lecturers were are pretty surprised when they reviewed it and realised the cannabis does not in fact melt your brain. But who can blame them when they come in stinking of glenfiddich every morning which persists through to the end of the day.
I need to sort out my evernote lists again!
Anyhooser, i came to ask if anyone had tried using a ceramic flavour disk as a heat diffuser in the WPA?
I think someone suggested the crafty pad from the storz portable (maybe the mighty) and i must say, it is amazing.
I reckon the pad mentioned before will be superior, but just using the ceramic disk allows me to vape an entire bowl with no stirring!
None!
I swear, i will need to video it.
The only drawback is that i can't fully toast the bud and have to use the unit at max temp (due to the ceramic disk constantly stealing and tossing heat during and inbetween heating respectively (hence why the pad will be better).
This has me thinking that a much thinner disk (about 1/4 the depth of mine) would be much better suited.
here's two pics anyway while i'm talking about it.
This certainly has me thinking this needs to be improved and implemented, maybe a HC that has a heat spreader (diffuser?! i don't know what to call it, im fried from using the fucker
) or just reduce the flavour disks depth by 75% and then we can stick them on top of a bowl. I also found it makes it much harder to scorch so it would make it friendlier for newbies also.
Though i do like the idea of a HC that has a thin porous ceramic disk in it to serve the same purpose without me having to hold and likely lose them every bowl.
On a side note: I just got my results back for my thesis on a dry herb vaporizer prototype - pulled of a 1st class honours degree with a god damn cannabis vape at a UK university haha! My lecturers were are pretty surprised when they reviewed it and realised the cannabis does not in fact melt your brain. But who can blame them when they come in stinking of glenfiddich every morning which persists through to the end of the day.
I'm in the same exact boat, good thing @stickstones has patienceI've got LSV ordered up. I can't wait for it to get here. I have the wpa coming as well. Thanks @stickstones Now I just have to break it to the wife.New glass this week and a new vape next week might put me in the dog house!!
i was brainstorming on a stand, I'm thinking something that would clip to the side of a table like this.
what do you guys think?
I was thinking something along the lines of the type of movement that desk lamps have, the ones with two of three joints/hinges.
They give you quite a good range of movement and if stiff enough will be ideal for the LSV.
But i also want to see it be able to fully invert 180 degrees in the stand, that way it can stand up to keep it cooler when not in use and turn down to use with a piece if it isn't removed from the stand first.
Also that way, you can rotate the stand ... say.. 45 degrees from level towards the floor and use it like an SSV but with Da Buddha's Ground glass wand (which also enables use with little baskets).
Seems like alot of versatility can come from a good stand.
Taproots
Member
I've been playing with using a few of the custom setups described here on the LSV. here are my thoughts- hopefully they aren't redundant or unhelpful.
1) 18MM M2M with Eq basket screen on top: Very good for microdosing, major issue for me is that when I pull the LSV out of the M2M it often takes the basket screen with it, happens enough that I don't do it too often anymore.
2) 18MM M2M with .625 Metal screen at midway point as per illustration. Very easy to setup, Works very well in the .1-.2 range. I've had people combust on this setup- the medicating effect is extremely impressive and I think overall it's my favorite in terms of ease of use.
3) WPA (Shorty or Long) with eq basket screen on top. The eq basket screen perfectly fits into the entrance of the 7th floor WPA, with the basket's opening flush with the hole in the spherical ground glass. It is fairly stable although it can sorta twist about in it. with more use it may become my favorite way to use the LSV.
-Very good for microdosing due to the eq screen.
-Less risk of scorching than M2M with comparable eq screen setup.
- LSV doesn't pull away my eq screen or interact with it.
- Mobility of the spherical Ground glass connection allows you to sorta guide the heat to different parts of the herb in the basket- analogous to the standard heater cover/wand on the SSV.
This is rapidly becoming my preferred vape. Maybe one day I'll get an enano but I honestly can't imagine it being better than any of the above setups and the LSV.
1) 18MM M2M with Eq basket screen on top: Very good for microdosing, major issue for me is that when I pull the LSV out of the M2M it often takes the basket screen with it, happens enough that I don't do it too often anymore.
2) 18MM M2M with .625 Metal screen at midway point as per illustration. Very easy to setup, Works very well in the .1-.2 range. I've had people combust on this setup- the medicating effect is extremely impressive and I think overall it's my favorite in terms of ease of use.
3) WPA (Shorty or Long) with eq basket screen on top. The eq basket screen perfectly fits into the entrance of the 7th floor WPA, with the basket's opening flush with the hole in the spherical ground glass. It is fairly stable although it can sorta twist about in it. with more use it may become my favorite way to use the LSV.
-Very good for microdosing due to the eq screen.
-Less risk of scorching than M2M with comparable eq screen setup.
- LSV doesn't pull away my eq screen or interact with it.
- Mobility of the spherical Ground glass connection allows you to sorta guide the heat to different parts of the herb in the basket- analogous to the standard heater cover/wand on the SSV.
This is rapidly becoming my preferred vape. Maybe one day I'll get an enano but I honestly can't imagine it being better than any of the above setups and the LSV.
421
Well-Known Member
@Herb-nerd These would work even better imo: http://www.vaporwarehouse.com/site/vaporbrothers-whip-screens-ceramic.html
I use them on my herbalAire a lot, they are well made and thin, and very porous with machined holes. Would make a good heat diffuser/no stir effect for the LSV.
I use them on my herbalAire a lot, they are well made and thin, and very porous with machined holes. Would make a good heat diffuser/no stir effect for the LSV.
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