Life Saber (LSV) by Elev8 Vehicles

[lwien]

Thanks Lazylathe,

Looking at pictures of the silver one, not all have LSV engraved anywhere. Do I need glasses

Would it be simpler to ask if this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131434470720?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

looks or is fake?

Wow. Look at that glass. Why in the fuck would anyone take a pic of that? Hell, why would anyone one let it go that long?

 

[Tomb]

TBH I don't know why anyone wouldn't have harvested that goodness! But here we are...

The heater cover on the other hand...

Should I steer clear then?

 

[grokit]

It's worth whatever the winning bid comes to

 

[vapeguy]

I've had my LSV for a few years now and it seems that over time I keep having to go higher and higher on the temperature knob, is this common? I beleive I used to start at the 1 o clock position but now start at 3 or even 4 o clock (5 o clock is max).

I'm actually not sure if it's a change in the LSV or maybe me preferring to start at higher temps but there seems to have been a slow change over the years.

 

[hoptimum]

I've had my LSV for a few years now and it seems that over time I keep having to go higher and higher on the temperature knob, is this common? I beleive I used to start at the 1 o clock position but now start at 3 or even 4 o clock (5 o clock is max).

I'm actually not sure if it's a change in the LSV or maybe me preferring to start at higher temps but there seems to have been a slow change over the years.

If you have to start at 5 and it doesnt combust, I think theres a problem somewhere.

 

[biohacker]

Had a great time with the LSV yesterday! LOVING not grinding! The flavour is incredible and the vapour really starts pumping out after a stir/tamp. For now i've increased temp from 11:00 to noon on the dial, and finding it much more satisfactory cloud wise, and taste is more pronounced. Getting decent taste right to the end as well.

The only issue i'm finding with this stir technique is that the 1/2" in the M2M AND my glass gets dirty practically instantly! Like with virgin clean screen and glass, even after the first bowl the screen and glass are both gross. I solved the dirty glass issue by sticking the EQ elbow in the bottom of the M2M but then IT gets gunked up with caked up ABV.

I have seen mention of cotton or hemp fibre in the path somehow to trap the goodies, without affecting airflow?

Still loving the LSV! Really learning how to fog up the glass nicely finally without over browning the load.

 

[canj00digit?]

FedEx tracking tells me my blemished LSV is in Oz and will be delivered tomorrow.
Woohoo.
Can't wait to fire her up.
Excited to see what colour I got also.

 

[stickstones]

@Tomb -- one of the great thing about 7th floor products is they are cheap to fix. if you want to be certain of what you are getting in the UK I would recommend using vapefiend. They don't sell fakes.

@biohacker -- looks like you are settling into a groove I am familiar with by using whole nugs with the LSV. It is fantastic with the only downside being how dirty shit gets when you crumble in the bowl with the pick. A little hemp fiber (or cotton, if that is more readily available) up the butt of the bowl keeps the glass clean and all the extra bits that get caught mean you will have a quicker harvest...that shit vapes great! It just takes a little bit spread thinly to work effectively, so airflow suffers very little. Are you in Canada?

 

[biohacker]

I am in Canada.... doesn't the cotton get sucked right out? I'm going back to the vxl ELB! I find if I use a small brush (mflb white one) or my wife's cheap plastic mascara brush after every ELB, I can keep them fairly clean before I dump it in ISO, and I have 8 of them so it makes it pretty easy to rotate. So I just cleaned all my glass to sparking, same with M2M, and a clean 1/2" AND EQ ELB in the bottom of the M2M, with a fresh new ELB 1/2 full of bits and pieces of nugs. After several uses, and stirs/tamps with my e-pic, I have yet to see a particle in either the 1/2" screen or EQ screen! They may be redundant! Glass is super clean, but it's still too early. This is the way i'm going for now, the minor ELB mainentance is well worth the easy stirring/tamping. There have been times when i've dislodged the 1/2" pushing a touch too hard, and it always it's a pain. Everything just is so much cleaner, and i'm OCD!

Continuing having success with whole nugs, don't have to worry about dark spots and flavour is much superior. Definitely getting into the grove with the LSV! Last night I gave the Cloud+ another attempt, and couldn't get over how much harder the airflow was. I know the EVO is wide open, but this Cloud has a tighter bamboo. Still rips, but I just like the feel of the LSV better. Can't believe how late i'm arriving at the show!

 

[lwien]

So the only connection that I have been using to mate my LSV to the D020-D has been an M2M with either a screen or an EQ basket installed and the reason is that I didn't have a reducer to be able to use my 14mm shorty WPA that I was previously using with my SC tube.

I've been REALLY happy with using the M2M with Q basket. Liked it much better than the WPA through my SC tube. Much more of an even and thorough vape through in the ABV department and required no stirring.

I just received a reducer that @SSVUN~YAH sent me so for the first time, I was able to try out the WPA with my D020-D last night. Wowza !!! So much less air restriction, that first pull took me totally by surprise. I wasn't expecting that being that I'm now vaping through a 14mm connection rather than the 18mm connection but apparently, the big difference is caused at the other end in that the spherical connection is MUCH more wide open that that of the 18mm M2M if that makes any sense.

The ABV comes out just as even but it hits MUCH more strongly.

I guess the main difference here is between the SC Tube and the D020-D. The SC tube chugged a lot more and the D020-D has no chug whatsoever and that, apparently, has a lot to do with how even your ABV comes out. It's the only conclusion that I can come to.

 

[biohacker]

hey @lwien, what amount do you use again in your EQ elbow screen? Full untamped? Medium grind? What temp? I just wasn't experiencing your results when testing it, and i've settled on the vxl elb as I can put in any amount I want, and use temp 12:00.

Do you think using the "cap" to my vxl elb "changes" anything heatwise? Just since the cap isn't required.

 

[lwien]

hey @lwien, what amount do you use again in your EQ elbow screen? Full untamped? Medium grind? What temp? I just wasn't experiencing your results when testing it, and i've settled on the vxl elb as I can put in any amount I want, and use temp 12:00.

Do you think using the "cap" to my vxl elb "changes" anything heatwise? Just since the cap isn't required.

I don't tamp at all, fully loaded, medium/fine grind (6 turns through a 2pc Space Case) with temp dial set at 11:00.

The reason that I don't tamp is because for me, there is a fine line between a hit being too airy and being too dense. I want some air mixed in being that the hit is a bit more lung friendly, but don't want a weak hit due to too much air. For me, tamping just makes the hit too dense, kinda like too much of a good thing.

And yes, I would think that using the cap would change the temp signatures, eh?

 

[biohacker]

That's interesting, I wonder why i'm not getting similar results, how brown does your ABV get? I'm wondering if your LSV runs a bit hotter than mine. This has me so determined, that i'm going to test it right now. I'd love a one or two hitter that I didn't need to stir, that extracted everything, and still tasted good. Right now i'm having a hard time finding the sweet spot on the dial for that, especially without a stir.

Thinking about it more, I think you're correct - the cap would maintain some extra radiant heat....more testing!

I'm finding that by using the vxl ELB, there is absolutely no need for any other screens in the path as everything stays pretty damn clean.

 

[lazylathe]

@biohacker

Is it Saturday yet??
I bought a M2M 18 to 14 adapter the other night... Just in case!! Lol!!

Looking forward to testing the LSV out!! Always interested me!

 

[biohacker]

Soon my brotha! I can't wait for you to try it and see how it stacks against your Minivap! Will be good times indeed!

 

[stickstones]

I'm jealous. I wish there was another vaporist in my town!

 

[grokit]

I live in a town like that,
if you can convert just one combuster you've made a positive difference!

One at a time, that is

 

[Frederick McGuire]

This thread fell off my radar for a week or so

That's what I figured, but have heard that complaint tons of times with no explanation. So I'm thinking that most users need to run there LSV at much higher temps or leave it on that higher temp when not in use? Mine barely gets warm at operating temp and I've left it on all day, about half as warm as my nano, but I don't use the metal guard with drilled holes.

That metal heat guard grabs up a lot of heat and transfers it throughout the whole unit IME...
I've used mine without it and my unit never got very warm at all.
But I managed to burn myself with the glass about 3 times over the course of 2 sessions and decided the heat shield was staying on

Also, Ambient temp will play a big factor...
I just looked up the minimum average temperature in winter here as 8c (which is 46f for you guys in the US)
I'm often using my LSV in 30c+ (86f+) conditions, so the thing will be warm just from ambient temps

Playing around with some different configuations.....

This one Rocks! 

LSV with male/male adapter and EVO elb.

VXL Hydrabase Bomb Edition, LSV Saturn Vape Tamer & SSFG Hydraline.

Hits cooooool and smoooooth....

Whenever I played with my vapor tamers before I sold them, I always found that if I had glycerine cooling before water, the water stripped all the coolness out of the vapor and it just ended up the same temp as the bong water...
You haven't found this?

I've had my LSV for a few years now and it seems that over time I keep having to go higher and higher on the temperature knob, is this common? I beleive I used to start at the 1 o clock position but now start at 3 or even 4 o clock (5 o clock is max).

I'm actually not sure if it's a change in the LSV or maybe me preferring to start at higher temps but there seems to have been a slow change over the years.

Have you had to change heater covers over the years?
Maybe you got a larger inlet hole?
I have 1 heater cover where I need to set my LSV between 3-max, with none of those temps even nearing combustion.

I just got 2 new heater covers and specifically requested small inlet holes.
these ones work great and give me a nice dark roast at 12/1

 

[Tweak]

I just got 2 new heater covers and specifically requested small inlet holes.
these ones work great and give me a nice dark roast at 12/1

Awesome!! Was wondering if they would send small inlet by request.

 

[canj00digit?]

The blessed FedEx man delivered my LSV about 30min ago!

I was very curious to see what color I would get (my preference order was purple, red, blue, black, silver) and I ended up with what you see below. I would have never chose the color combo, but I really dig it actually.

As for the blemish, I can't seem to find it upon first inspection. A couple little scuffs here and there but hard to imagine those it. Who knows, who cares, because...

...she's a beast! Yes new vape honeymoon, first medication session.
So I am a little hyped naturally, but above and beyond that it really is a very good vape (so far).

I've only used the transfer wand so far.
I've become more interested in dry vaping lately.
I enjoy dry vaping with my Enano but the loads are just too small to leave me satisfied and having another user next to me it seems like an endless job to pack loads.
So that's one of the reasons I went with the LSV, the ability for BIG loads.
I filled my transfer wand probably 80% full with just enough room to fit an EQ screen.
LSV burned off and warmed up on high, then dropped it to 12, waited a few and went to town with the loaded transfer wand:



Currently blasted. Taste was great, seems on par with Cloud and Enano but I am not too much of a taste 'snob' so YMMV.

Thanks to all in this thread who've pimped the LSV! This thing is kind of a hidden gem it seems.

Testing with water coming later, ION Matrix up first.
Will be using M2M with ELBs.

Back to lala land with the LSV for me

 

[Tweak]

I've only used the transfer wand so far.
I've become more interested in dry vaping lately.
I enjoy dry vaping with my Enano but the loads are just too small to leave me satisfied and having another user next to me it seems like an endless job to pack loads.
So that's one of the reasons I went with the LSV, the ability for BIG loads.

Do we have another nano convert? I always tried to over stuff my nano GonGs and stems, even thought about designing a piece of glass that would hold more, like a bubble in the middle.

I always thought the nano was just like a mini LSV and that they would make a great combo.

They also sell a Smaller transfer wand if your interested, it's about the same length as a nano stem.

 

[canj00digit?]

Do we have another nano convert? I always tried to over stuff my nano GonGs and stems, even thought about designing a piece of glass that would hold more, like a bubble in the middle.

I always thought the nano was just like a mini LSV and that they would make a great combo.

They also sell a Smaller transfer wand if your interested, it's about the same length as a nano stem.

Good to see I'm not the only one out there needing bigger loads.
I have a nano and had a Cloud+ till it died.
I gotta decide if the LSV is going to replace the Cloud.
Haven't tested water yet so hard to say.

I had a look a the shorter transfer wand but thought I'd stick with the longer, I'm just acclimating to dry vaping, the shorty is a bit intimidating. lol

 

[SSVUN~YAH]

I'm heavily addicted to wood right now but I would never get rid of my LSV!!!

 

[biohacker]

I gotta decide if the LSV is going to replace the Cloud.

This is all i've been testing/comparing over the past few, and have concluded that the LSV is definitely replacing my Cloud. The airflow is just something else, plus a bunch of other things I prefer in the LSV.

Still settled on M2M/ELB, everything stays so clean and satisfies my glass OCD! Liking noon on the dial, and staying there consistently after tamping/stirring unground, but if the LSV has been on for a looooong time, I can even back it down to 11:00 and take nice long slow hits and milk the crap out of my bubbler!

Tomorrow @lazylathe gets the demo!

 

[Frederick McGuire]

Glad to see some others finally having similar sentiments to me comparing the Cloud+/LSV

I had a Fakexhale for about 6 months until it died on me
I always found it gave me similar performance to the LSV.
The cloud was a bit simpler to use, but performance wise it's pretty similar IME

EDIT:
The LSV is even great with hydratubes!

I'm even using my LSV a bit more than my sub
The sub is now basically for weekends only, and LSV for weekdays

Awesome!! Was wondering if they would send small inlet by request.

My order was through Australian Vaporizers.
I message them through their contact us page after purchasing 2 heater covers asking for the smallest inlet holes possible.
They said they made sure to pick 2 with smaller holes and they came perfect

I'm sure 7th floor direct will also honor your inlet hole size preference if you ask them

The blessed FedEx man delivered my LSV about 30min ago!

I was very curious to see what color I would get (my preference order was purple, red, blue, black, silver) and I ended up with what you see below. I would have never chose the color combo, but I really dig it actually.

...
So that's one of the reasons I went with the LSV, the ability for BIG loads.
I filled my transfer wand probably 80% full with just enough room to fit an EQ screen.
LSV burned off and warmed up on high, then dropped it to 12, waited a few and went to town with the loaded transfer wand:



Currently blasted. Taste was great, seems on par with Cloud and Enano but I am not too much of a taste 'snob' so YMMV.

Thanks to all in this thread who've pimped the LSV! This thing is kind of a hidden gem it seems.

Testing with water coming later, ION Matrix up first.
Will be using M2M with ELBs.

Back to lala land with the LSV for me

I have 1 All Silver LSV, and 1 all black LSV, and switched the heat guard sections on them - looks just like that Minus the blue end cap (I dont use the end caps at all... I really should considering I mostly use the m2m adapter now )

I usually pack 1/3 - 1/2 of the volume of a male joint. That'll generally give me quite a few nice hits (unless I'm in the possession of some fairly meh bud at the time) when stirring between each hit/2 hits.
I find vapor production drops off way quicker without stirring, but that without any eq screens or cloud elbs...

I don't know why it isn't more well loved...
Made by the same people as the SSV, reliable, heavy hitter, great for water... Its just awesome