Life Saber (LSV) by Elev8 Vehicles

[Vapodudule]

I adopted ELB and mini ELB since buying too 1+years.

With EVO recently here, he had to compete.

you can can stick probably 0.5+ in a ELB and you have enough raw power to extract all.

The LSV is so powerfull that the mini ELB browns every timer past 12 o clock.

 

[Tweak]

So it sounds that they complement one another?

Yup, they are basically the same setup. A heater cover wrapped around a ceramic heater with hole/holes to let fresh air in. The nano uses a smaller wattage heater and more restriction to provide the constant heat.

The nano uses a heat port, that sits into the glass and puts the heater really close to the load. So some conductive heat along with convection helps "roast" the load. The LSV uses more pure convection to heat the load.

They are even around the same diameter, the nano and the LSV. Great combo.

 

[lwien]

But the LSV can very effectively vaporize small loads, especially when using a Q basket in an M2M through water so is there anything that the Nano really does better than the LSV that would make it a good idea to own both?

 

[wax]

But the LSV can very effectively vaporize small loads, especially when using a Q basket in an M2M through water so is there anything that the Nano really does better than the LSV that would make it a good idea to own both?

Are you implying that the lsv has the efficiency of the enano?that's what it sounds like. Is that true? Anyone else care to chime in

 

[lwien]

Are you implying that the lsv has the efficiency of the enano?that's what it sounds like. Is that true? Anyone else care to chime in

I used to own a Purple Days which was the most efficient vape on the planet. When I went from my PD to my LSV, my consumption went up about 25% but now with using the Q basket in an M2M through a D20-D, I'd say, prior to any further experimentation, that the efficiency is about the same mainly due to the fact that I can get hits that are just as satisfying using small loads in the LSV as I did in my PD.

If that is true for the PD, I can't imagine that the same thing wouldn't hold true for the Nano as well.

 

[SSVUN~YAH]

But the LSV can very effectively vaporize small loads, especially when using a Q basket in an M2M through water so is there anything that the Nano really does better than the LSV that would make it a good idea to own both?

Because that wood is badass and it's sooo tiny, but ya great combo for sure, they are both my daily drivers with my AA & Hammer handling the portable needs.

 

[wax]

I used to own a Purple Days which was the most efficient vape on the planet. When I went from my PD to my LSV, my consumption went up about 25% but now with using the Q basket in an M2M through a D20-D, I'd say, prior to any further experimentation, that the efficiency is about the same mainly due to the fact that I can get hits that are just as satisfying using small loads in the LSV as I did in my PD.

If that is true for the PD, I can't imagine that the same thing wouldn't hold true for the Nano as well.

In my opinion making a statement like the pd is the most efficient vape on the planet isn't true especially in 2015. That may be the case for you maybe other people see it differently.

 

[SSVUN~YAH]

In my opinion making a statement like the pd is the most efficient vape on the planet isn't true especially in 2015. That may be the case for you maybe other people see it differently.

I'm pretty sure that's the PD's claim to fame isn't it?

 

[Tweak]

Are you implying that the lsv has the efficiency of the enano?that's what it sounds like. Is that true? Anyone else care to chime in

Straight out-of-the-box, the e-nano is hands down the more efficient vaporizer.

With some modding, they are too close to call IMO.

I'm pretty sure that's the PD's claim to fame isn't it?

It was also Andy's motto for awhile. Plastered on his epic page, with a money back guarantee.

 

[hoptimum]

But the LSV can very effectively vaporize small loads, especially when using a Q basket in an M2M through water so is there anything that the Nano really does better than the LSV that would make it a good idea to own both?

Not better but different. Given the LSV design, with the hole midway up the heater cover and the relatively wide diameter of the heater cover/m2m, air seems to race through it like a wind tunnel. With the air intake in the bottom of a log, in my case the UD and HI, and the somewhat narrower path through the stainless heater and a 14mm glass wpa the air flow seems a bit more restricted to me. The logs hit like a snipers rifle, whereas the LSV hits like a howititzer, at least in my opinion. Equally potent, just different.

 

[lwien]

The logs hit like a snipers rifle, whereas the LSV hits like a howititzer, at least in my opinion. Equally potent, just different.

Yeah, I'd agree with that.

 

[biohacker]

You are pushing me over the edge!!!
Sounds like you have found a winning combo!!

Well, you will see for yourself next weekend! I love it, but it has its moments. You can take the abv too far even when it's still very light brown/dark yellow and get unpleasant taste. Or don't get the timing of the inhale speed correctly and get an unpleasant tasting dark spot. But i've recently become both a flavour and airflow snob. This is why I love the lsv so much, but there is a user learning curve, and i'm definitely still learning...it's back to "basics" of vaporizing, where airflow controls so much of the temp. Pros/cons forsure, especially when compared to something like say, the Herbie. Then again we're talking about a vape that costs 1/4 of Herbie.

Can people with both units tell me your experience (or have tried both). At this price point, it seems that the lsv is the best bang for the buck. I was thinking evo and Herbalizer but wanted to transition my way in. I was really set on the evo, but at that price point, I might steer away (esp if the lsv kicks ass). I definitely want the herbalizer for the speed of the heat up, precise temp, and never tried a ballon before.

I've owned them all. If money was absolutely no object, Herbie would be my first choice. If it is, LSV. Otherwise, I like the e-nano alot, and would get it over the EVO. I just much prefer the LSV for so many reasons.

For me it's the nano for small bowl, the LSV for any size bowl I feel like, big or small.

Bang on. I have vaped a fragment of a bud, or leaf for that matter using an ELB/m2m with the lsv.

For full throttle, open rips I crank up the LSV. It has replaced the Cloud for that purpose.

It's nice to hear that i'm not the only one. If I only knew what I know now, back when this was released but all of the hype was on vxl, I would have purchased an LSV waaaaaay sooner.

But the LSV can very effectively vaporize small loads, especially when using a Q basket in an M2M through water so is there anything that the Nano really does better than the LSV that would make it a good idea to own both?

Personal preference and/or disposable income. As the present owner of both, but rookie in the LSV world, I still think i've put it through enough to form a fairly solid opinion. The results lie in the classifieds. Nuff said.

Are you implying that the lsv has the efficiency of the enano?that's what it sounds like. Is that true? Anyone else care to chime in

Yeah i'll chime in. It's true. I stick an ELB in a m2m and place ANY amount on top of it...literally ANY amount, even a speck can be successfully vaped and produce a visible cloud. Pretty sick from an efficiency standpoint i'd say. I know the nano can do the same, but the point is the LSV is just as efficient. I tested the shit out of this yesterday for hours. It was awesome!

Straight out-of-the-box, the e-nano is hands down the more efficient vaporizer.

With some modding, they are too close to call IMO.

Bingo.

 

[Tweak]

I know this was posted before, but in image form. So excited I had to make a video.

Guitar volume:

Off at 0, full power stops right on 8

And now I'm on ebay looking at guitar knobs, ugh.

 

[biohacker]

I think the Solo has to go next, i'm literally starting my vape collection from scratch with the LSV holding the crown! Now I need to find a portable that is even close to as awesome as the LSV! This vape has been a game changer for me! Another epic night with the LSV!

Just not sure whether to use the M2M with a screen at the bottom, or use the VXL ELBs. Not sure I notice a performance advantage either way? It's definitely cleaner using the ELB though, but the ELB maintenance comes into play. Worth it I think, I guess I have noticed a distinct advantage of ELB use - it keeps your glass so clean!

 

[scottg402]

I think the Solo has to go next, i'm literally starting my vape collection from scratch with the LSV holding the crown! Now I need to find a portable that is even close to as awesome as the LSV! This vape has been a game changer for me! Another epic night with the LSV!

Just not sure whether to use the M2M with a screen at the bottom, or use the VXL ELBs. Not sure I notice a performance advantage either way? It's definitely cleaner using the ELB though, but the ELB maintenance comes into play. Worth it I think, I guess I have noticed a distinct advantage of ELB use - it keeps your glass so clean!

I got my LSV waterpipe attachment and it's still early but I think I still prefer the male/male adapter with the ELB.

 

[hoptimum]

I got my LSV waterpipe attachment and it's still early but I think I still prefer the male/male adapter with the ELB.

The advantage of the WPA is the ability to rotate the LSV while youre using it. This advantage is offset by having to remove the top cap and hold the LSV, whereas with the M2M you can leave the cap on and don't necessarily have to hold the LSV, which can get pretty warm.

 

[lwien]

The advantage of the WPA is the ability to rotate the LSV while youre using it. This advantage is offset by having to remove the top cap and hold the LSV, whereas with the M2M you can leave the cap on and don't necessarily have to hold the LSV, which can get pretty warm.

Also, with a Q basket installed in the M2M, I never have to stir between hits and the ABV always comes out an even brown. With the WPA, I always have to stir between hits but even if I do, there are still multi-colored specks from green to light brown to dark brown to a very dark brown.

The M2M without the baskets but just with a screen installed has to be stirred in much the same way as the WPA and the ABV comes out the same as the WPA.

It has been my experience that the M2M with a Q basket is a winner and it already made a great vaporizer even better.

 

[hoptimum]

Also, with a Q basket installed in the M2M, I never have to stir between hits and the ABV always comes out an even brown. With the WPA, I always have to stir between hits but even if I do, there are still multi-colored specks from green to light brown to dark brown to a very dark brown.

The M2M without the baskets but just with a screen installed has to be stirred in much the same way as the WPA and the ABV comes out the same as the WPA.

This is true, but I also use the EQ basket in the WPA when I use it, so no stirring either way

 

[lwien]

This is true, but I also use the EQ basket in the WPA when I use it, so no stirring either way

Ah..........never tried that.

 

[scottg402]

I'm not stirring with my ELB and I'm getting pretty uniform ABV.

 

[biohacker]

Been experimenting today with whole nugs, or bits and pieces broken by fingers instead of grinding and I am getting better, and more consistent results (with the m2m). I am finding the flavour improved, and enjoy tamping the load with the pick and stirring, i'm getting full even extraction, at a fairly consistent taste now. It's less harsh to boot!

 

[lwien]

Been experimenting today with whole nugs, or bits and pieces broken by fingers instead of grinding and I am getting better, and more consistent results (with the m2m). I am finding the flavour improved, and enjoy tamping the load with the pick and stirring, i'm getting full even extraction, at a fairly consistent taste now. It's less harsh to boot!

One of the vaporizing percs...................experimenting.

 

[scottg402]

One of the vaporizing percs...................experimenting.

Yes and even funner when you are fortunate enough to have a larger (growing) collection and you can mix/match parts.

 

[biohacker]

I think I finally settled on about 11ish on the dial, with a M2M and VXL ELB....I load it up with unground bits, and hit it without a cap on the ELB (no need). I then proceed to use an e-pic to break down the pieces and repeat the process. Love it! Complete extraction and fully evenly browned without pollutiing your glass much at all. It's so easy to stir in the ELB since so big and nothing spills out. So far this is my most favourite way of using the LSV, and I have not tasted any bad abv taste whatsoever using this method so far (unless i'm not paying much attention and just try to get too much out of the load). Good times! The LSV has replaced all for now!

 

[Tweak]

Yes and even funner when you are fortunate enough to have a larger (growing) collection and you can mix/match parts.

Yes, . Every SSV heater cover works with the LSV. Too bad the SGG are the opposite, if the SSV SGG HC where male it would be a killer combo with the LSV WPA.

I think I finally settled on about 11ish on the dial

Wow, that low? Does your LSV get hot after prolonged use like many others report?