Holy Piatella

[staircase slight of hand]

I am just researching...

Sure, but you’re not approaching it from a point of neutral investigation, you decided on your conclusion and are desperately trying to find ways to support that conclusion. Your “just researching” has much more in common with QAnon believers searching the internet for validation than it has to do with the scientific method.

 

[Farid]

Why would it clog the screen?

Think of it this way. Take a dry nug. Drop it in a glass of water. Let it soak until water logged. Then pull it out. That nug is a similar weight to a fresh nug.

When you make bubble you are doing the same thing. You might use a little more water with dry bud because the bud will soak up water that fresh will not. The overall mass is the same.

 

[GoldenBud]

Sure, but you’re not approaching it from a point of neutral investigation, you decided on your conclusion and are desperately trying to find ways to support that conclusion. Your “just researching” has much more in common with QAnon believers searching the internet for validation than it has to do with the scientific method.

ok we'll stop debating the Cellophane/Vacuum/Temple ball methods until we get more people on this thread or finding new information

Why would it clog the screen?

Think of it this way. Take a dry nug. Drop it in a glass of water. Let it soak until water logged. Then pull it out. That nug is a similar weight to a fresh nug.

When you make bubble you are doing the same thing. You might use a little more water with dry bud because the bud will soak up water that fresh will not. The overall mass is the same.

because you insert 700gr of trim instead of 100gr.. you insert more mass..

 

[Farid]

You literally don't insert more mass. The mass is the same because the bud soaks up water.

 

[GoldenBud]

You literally don't insert more mass. The mass is the same because the bud soaks up water.

imagine 100gr dry trim vs 700gr wet trim , just close your eyes and imagine it

 

[Farid]

Do you think the bud stays dry when put in the water?

 

[GoldenBud]

Do you think the bud stays dry when put in the water?

Think about your INPUT, not what happens later

 

[Farid]

Your input:

Dry bud:

20,000 grams water&ice
100 grams of bud

Wet bud:

19,400 grams of water&ice
700 grand of wet bud

Total weight is the same for both: 20,100 grams. Same work to spin either.

 

[GoldenBud]

Your input:

Dry bud:

20,000 grams water&ice
100 grams of bud

Wet bud:

19,400 grams of water&ice
700 grand of wet bud

Total weight is the same for both: 20,100 grams. Same work to spin either.

no you will need A LOT more ice with wet trim because there are hydrogen bonds between the cannabis to the water, you need a lot more ice (a lot more energy) to separate them, but fine, need somebody to try both methods and tell us
P.S
and you will also need a lot more cold water. when the water is bonded to the cannabis, it's much harder to separate them.

 

[Farid]

You do not need any ice. The best bubble is made with ice cold water that has no solid ice. Ice detracts because it can cause grinding of the plant material, introducing contaminant.

We don't need somebody to try it because tons of people already have tried it. There wouldn't be commercial grade bubble hash machines like whistler tech if they hadn't.

 

[GoldenBud]

water in which temperature? so hell yea you will need a lot more water for 700gr wet trim vs 100gr dry trim
when the water is bonded to the cannabis you need a lot of energy to separate them

 

[Farid]

In a single spin? No. Do you need to do more washes on wet trim? Probably, since dry, cured bud sheds trichs much easier. But that has literally nothing to do with the mass/volume of wet vs dry. which is the point we were discussing.

 

[staircase slight of hand]

so hell yea you will need a lot more water for 700gr wet trim vs 100gr dry trim
when the water is bonded to the cannabis you need a lot of energy to separate them

The longer this thread gets, the more it becomes clear that certain contributors are like twelve-year-old boys that see a porn video and then come to the conclusion that they’re world-class lovers with no need to learn anything more.

 

[GoldenBud]

In a single spin? No. Do you need to do more washes on wet trim? Probably, since dry, cured bud sheds trichs much easier. But that has literally nothing to do with the mass/volume of wet vs dry. which is the point we were discussing.

that's why I said you need a huge bucket, but the screens won't fit on it. when it's the option of 700gr wet trim, the cannabis is bonded strongly to the water, by hydrogen bonds. so, you need much more energy to separate the water from the cannabis...

if it would be easy everybody would use wet trim for their bubble hash i think?

 

[Farid]

You don't need a huge bucket. When you do multiple spins you fill up your vessel again. If you used a huge bucket it would just mean you had to drain more water but you wouldn't help your yield.

Also most skilled hashmakers don't fit their screens on the bucket. They wash in one vessel then drain through the screens.

 

[GoldenBud]

You don't need a huge bucket. When you do multiple spins you fill up your vessel again. If you used a huge bucket it would just mean you had to drain more water but you wouldn't help your yield.

Also most skilled hashmakers don't fit their screens on the bucket. They wash in one vessel then drain through the screens.

did u understand how he cuts the Piatella with a knife and the knife won't get very sticky? even with my hash of zero or 1 star it was very sticky
how can it be not sticky? the Cellophane/Vacuum did it?! idk? minute 01:50

 

[Bologna]

did u understand how he cuts the Piatella with a knife and the knife won't get very sticky? even with my hash of zero or 1 star it was very sticky
how can it be not sticky? the Cellophane/Vacuum did it?! idk? minute 01:50

That's what makes it "Piatella".... that's (part of) the recipe! That's what makes it different! The "magic"! All that stuff you say is "marketing bs"....!

 

[staircase slight of hand]

did u understand how he cuts the Piatella with a knife and the knife won't get very sticky? even with my hash of zero or 1 star it was very sticky
how can it be not sticky?

Processing (you know, all the stuff you think is “hype”) can do all manner of things to an extract’s stickiness. I’ve got some 6-star hash rosin batter in my fridge right now that’s terpy as hell, but will leave barely any residue of my dab tools.

It’s yet one more of those things where you simply don’t know your blind spots until they’re made apparent to you.

 

[GoldenBud]

that's interesting, cool, which step in the process "removes" the stickiness? although if it has a high price tag, i don't like it. i hate high prices. that's why i stopped vaporizing at all. day 112 and going strong.

 

[Bologna]

that's interesting, cool, which step in the process "removes" the stickiness?

I have no idea, but my guess is the high % of intact trichome heads used and slowly cold curing in a vacuum...

i stopped vaporizing at all.

BLASPHEMOR!!!!

day 112 and going strong.

Awesome!

Edit: But I'd be happier if the reason you stopped wasn't economics...

 

[GoldenBud]

have no idea, but my guess is the high % of intact trichome heads used and slowly cold curing in a vacuum...

This hash was sticky AF
@Bologna not only economics, i HATED the Mucus/Phlegms and the coughs. really hated it. and hated the addiction.

 

[Bologna]

This hash was sticky AF
@Bologna not only economics, i HATED the Mucus/Phlegms and the coughs. really hated it. and hated the addiction.

Honestly, that looks like a big ball of pipe scrapings... ugh.

So basically you're just trolling us to help you learn English.....?!

 

[Monk Debate]

that's interesting, cool, which step in the process "removes" the stickiness? although if it has a high price tag, i don't like it. i hate high prices. that's why i stopped vaporizing at all. day 112 and going strong.

Do you use edibles? Or just no marijuana at all?

 

[GoldenBud]

So basically you're just trolling us to help you learn English.....?!

I joined FC many years ago, my English is fine already. I am not trolling, I know a lot about filteration.

Do you use edibles? Or just no marijuana at all?

nothing at all, it was very hard in the first 40 days

 

[Bologna]

I joined FC many years ago, my English is fine already. I am not trolling, I know a lot about filteration.

I was kinda joking about the trolling...

So you're happy to be a non-user debating the science of what is essentially an art with a bunch of stoners in text that's a 2nd language...? Man, I gotta say, you're an enigma, @GoldenBud.... good luck!

(ps: in English there's no "e" in "filtration")


Well folks, I think my work is done here for now... it's been real and it's been fun, but I can't say it's been r... blah blah... Anyway, if I ever get up to Maine (about 2 hours away) this summer for one of Hazy Hill Farm's forthcoming Piatella drops, and I feel like dropping the cake, cuz I think it's like $120-$140 for 2 grams, which is way more than I usually like to spend on concentrates, I'll report back cuz theirs at least looks somewhat legit...