For me only the third one is a super huge hit. That's what I want too
My biggest cloud is the second one, and I only get like 1 hit like it out of 1 bowl... I'm envious..And then I always think that I should've used that bowl it in my VapCap...
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My biggest cloud is the second one, and I only get like 1 hit like it out of 1 bowl... I'm envious..And then I always think that I should've used that bowl it in my VapCap...
ginolicious
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For me only the third one is a super huge hit. That's what I want too
And then I always think that I should've used that bowl it in my VapCap...
It’s all about how you draw. I know I’m still seeing vapor at like draw 10 after 2 days on the same bowl. Not nearly as much as the video and the taste is not the greatest by then but I am seeing some exhale. I’m not even using it at 410 either. I’m on 395 currently.
Maybe @AJS can inform us regarding his draw technique as that wasn’t really shown.
Stdudez
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One of my tray tops is the same way - break your fingers off trying to turn it. And no - it doesn't get better over time lol. NBD for me honestly, the other is fine.
I also wanted to shout out to @Haze Vaporizers for excellent CS this morning! Got a call from them saying they are shipping out my extra tray topper, 2x trays, battery, and silicone case today. You guys are frikkin rockstars and I'm so glad I got this device. It hits like a truck and the company stands behind their product. Rare in today's world, am I right??
WIN!!!
O-G-Reg
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To chime in from a novice vaping couple with just a week with the square....
We’re both able to get good clouds. Here’s the sinple stuff I believe gets us good results!
1) Fine grind. Once through a standard cnc grinder will work, but putting it through 2-3 times (or using a finer grinder) can be the difference between stirring or not, or ~10 pulls with medium vapor as opposed to 6-7 with much more cloud production.
1.5) pack. Use a scoop or tool to load. I was pinching my herbs in creating uneven density in my pod. Dont do that. Fill all the way and tamp somewhat gently until flat. Overpack=poor airflow, uneven abv and MOST CERTAINLY a screen covered in herb which can also effect vapor.
2) temp. 3->4 base preset. I might double press towards the end or bump to 5.
3) clean airpath. The tiny holes in the screen or pod can easily be restriced or blocked by oil buildup or some ABV fleks, which can caused diminished or uneven airflow...extraction. Sticky screens will get herb caked onto them almost immediately as i mentioned.
4) draw: firm and constant, usually until the green light goes off and vibrates.
Anyone find a good travel case for this guy with some room for accessories aside from the one they sell?
We’re both able to get good clouds. Here’s the sinple stuff I believe gets us good results!
1) Fine grind. Once through a standard cnc grinder will work, but putting it through 2-3 times (or using a finer grinder) can be the difference between stirring or not, or ~10 pulls with medium vapor as opposed to 6-7 with much more cloud production.
1.5) pack. Use a scoop or tool to load. I was pinching my herbs in creating uneven density in my pod. Dont do that. Fill all the way and tamp somewhat gently until flat. Overpack=poor airflow, uneven abv and MOST CERTAINLY a screen covered in herb which can also effect vapor.
2) temp. 3->4 base preset. I might double press towards the end or bump to 5.
3) clean airpath. The tiny holes in the screen or pod can easily be restriced or blocked by oil buildup or some ABV fleks, which can caused diminished or uneven airflow...extraction. Sticky screens will get herb caked onto them almost immediately as i mentioned.
4) draw: firm and constant, usually until the green light goes off and vibrates.
Anyone find a good travel case for this guy with some room for accessories aside from the one they sell?
ginolicious
Well-Known Member
I use the loading tool but also use my fingers to place my weed in the pod. I only fill a bit at a time with a stir tool to ensure the bud is evenly distributed. Thought I would share in this point.
Djsleepy
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I was having sub par results from a deep cleaned unit and fresh material in pods....after trying to draw and feeling restriction.....mp was good......I opened her up and noticed the silicone on tray that holds pods was raised around a couple of pods and in center.....I took it apart did a clean with Haze's powder.....put it back together .......it brought new life to seal and it layed flat like it was supposed to and now I'm back to business....so add to the list of cleaning things that can make a difference.....I assume heat and never having cleaned it until today led to my issues with it laying flat. Hope it helps.
ginolicious
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Are you referring to the bottom silicone seal that sits on the tray where the pods go? @Djsleepy I notice my silicone raises a bit sometimes as well.
Also microdose pods will probably create better airflow for sure on a side note. And it will aleviate the issue of getting material stuck on top of the screens which seems inevitable.
Also microdose pods will probably create better airflow for sure on a side note. And it will aleviate the issue of getting material stuck on top of the screens which seems inevitable.
I can draw fairly hard. I get huge clouds out of a VapCap. Maybe not that hard like Troy from 420vapezone
but near to him.I've tested 3 different squares (first one was definitely defect) and it seems like every square does behave differently? With my latest one it seems like packing, grind consistency and moisture content is key. I put my herb like 4 hours on a sheet of paper to dry it out. But a fresh grind got me more vapor? Its really contradictory cause normally the dryer the material the better is the cloud production.
It would be great if @Haze Vaporizers would post in depth tipps on it. First in text form please. Videos can wait.
Don't get me wrong. I get effects, but they aren't that good as in my VapCap. The problem is that I cannot try it in depth. Need a clear head right now. So if I'll get some cbd flower, I'll post more of my experience.
Here for those who struggle to put the tray after a deep clean together:
1) Put the half with the pods on the table
2) Put the silicon seal from the vapor path on top of the half from the pods
3) Put the screens in
4) Put the other part without the holes on top
5) Now you have only have to put the lid half and press it hard
6) et Voilá
Djsleepy
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Yes that is the seal I am talking about
ginolicious
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Mine pops up a bit as well. It’s weird. Doesn’t always happen but on occasion it does.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
This thread is moving fast!
@AJS - glad to see you got some of the errors worked out! I couldn’t listen to your video, but I suggest grinding finer, or at least crumbling that stuff up after a couple of hits...those were some big chunks you were using. I’ve been using nugs the last two days since I travelled without a grinder and get about three tasty hits before the crumble, then it’s punch out time.
Observations:
- I think the double 3-clicks issue is after it auto turns off. Sort of like the Boundless vapes that don’t turn offf after timing out and require you turn them off and then back on.
- the button light is slow to respond to everything...heat press, charging, etc. I think I got the error @AJS got trying to get it to charge via computer. Iirc, it took longer to recognize, like 15 seconds or so...give that a try.
- I use it button down all the time now because it’s so easy to hold the power button in when it’s on the bottom. I get a little extract leakage on top of the silicone lids, and I think it’s worse when I hold it with the button up...not sure though - it’s probably more related to draw speed. Now I’m playing with extracts doing one hit with the button down to melt the extract and then flip it to reduce leakage...we’ll see if this works well.
- I bought a box of alcohol wipes so it’s easier to keep clean when I unload. Normally I’m not a fan of buying extra stuff for a specific vape, but like I said earlier, when it hits like this I don’t care. If I load all four at once I’ll clean all four at once when I unload. Other times I only load one or two bowls, and then I’ll move the bowls around to clean upper screens until they are all dirty and ready for a wipe down.
I forget who listed their high temp setting a page or two ago, but mine are even higher. Mine are 360, 390,420,450,480, and I usually just start on 450 and get great taste at first and good taste until the last couple hits. If I start on 360 or 390- and temp step I end up with wispier vapor at each setting and prefer the punch this thing can deliver, so I just start high on 450. The lower temps are there just for sharing...I realize I like it higher than most.
For extracts I continue to load one dab’s worth and get a good hit on the first or second draw and one or two clean up hits before it’s done.
My draws start slow to build up heat in the oven and then I speed it up after a couple of seconds. If I feel it getting thick I’ll huff hard and it can keep up, even after the timeout. I keep the button pressed the whole time, and I never double press.
It’s still kicking my ass and liberating my style, and I haven't used anything else since I got it (Thursday or Friday?), and I haven’t thought about turning on a desktop! Well done Haze...I’m smitten with it!
@AJS - glad to see you got some of the errors worked out! I couldn’t listen to your video, but I suggest grinding finer, or at least crumbling that stuff up after a couple of hits...those were some big chunks you were using. I’ve been using nugs the last two days since I travelled without a grinder and get about three tasty hits before the crumble, then it’s punch out time.
Observations:
- I think the double 3-clicks issue is after it auto turns off. Sort of like the Boundless vapes that don’t turn offf after timing out and require you turn them off and then back on.
- the button light is slow to respond to everything...heat press, charging, etc. I think I got the error @AJS got trying to get it to charge via computer. Iirc, it took longer to recognize, like 15 seconds or so...give that a try.
- I use it button down all the time now because it’s so easy to hold the power button in when it’s on the bottom. I get a little extract leakage on top of the silicone lids, and I think it’s worse when I hold it with the button up...not sure though - it’s probably more related to draw speed. Now I’m playing with extracts doing one hit with the button down to melt the extract and then flip it to reduce leakage...we’ll see if this works well.
- I bought a box of alcohol wipes so it’s easier to keep clean when I unload. Normally I’m not a fan of buying extra stuff for a specific vape, but like I said earlier, when it hits like this I don’t care. If I load all four at once I’ll clean all four at once when I unload. Other times I only load one or two bowls, and then I’ll move the bowls around to clean upper screens until they are all dirty and ready for a wipe down.
I forget who listed their high temp setting a page or two ago, but mine are even higher. Mine are 360, 390,420,450,480, and I usually just start on 450 and get great taste at first and good taste until the last couple hits. If I start on 360 or 390- and temp step I end up with wispier vapor at each setting and prefer the punch this thing can deliver, so I just start high on 450. The lower temps are there just for sharing...I realize I like it higher than most.
For extracts I continue to load one dab’s worth and get a good hit on the first or second draw and one or two clean up hits before it’s done.
My draws start slow to build up heat in the oven and then I speed it up after a couple of seconds. If I feel it getting thick I’ll huff hard and it can keep up, even after the timeout. I keep the button pressed the whole time, and I never double press.
It’s still kicking my ass and liberating my style, and I haven't used anything else since I got it (Thursday or Friday?), and I haven’t thought about turning on a desktop! Well done Haze...I’m smitten with it!
AJS
Calm Consistency
Square working great today. The only problem I had was trying to vape one of the cbd bowls I packed and quickly realize I chose the wrong bowl and it wasn't the cbd I was vaping 
Did my first full clean last night seeing how I'm now pretty used to the vape and now know how it all works. Flavor was incredible, clouds were very very satisfactory and smooth. This thing can be beastly when dialed in.
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Also I think the double tap method works well because I think when the heater heats up it runs hot then settles out lower at the proper temp, so when ur drawing during heatup you get a little extra boost. Or possibly the vape thinks it's running cooler cuz you are drawing air over the coil/sensor so it gets a little hotter to keep up. Not sure.
I've notice on lower temp with cbd flower I've actually managed to make the flavor die in a hit if I time the double heatup and my draw wrong.
Over all I'm getting better with it. Can't repeat results every time and I normally always need the double heat method for the most part, but with some of the massive flavorful hits I've gotten, the potential is clearly there and I'm slowly tapping into it more and more consistently.
Edit: I think the fine grind was the last piece of the puzzle. https://imgur.com/a/o04c1Sv Great extraction, never once used the double heat method, just used it how it was intended.
Edit2: did 2 more sessions at fine grind, awesome vapor from the first pull. Loving this!
Did my first full clean last night seeing how I'm now pretty used to the vape and now know how it all works. Flavor was incredible, clouds were very very satisfactory and smooth. This thing can be beastly when dialed in.
I'm noticing this too.
Fair point. I'm not used to fine fine. I forget what people mean as it's been so long for grinding just a standard medium grind. I'm using the Haze grinder gifted to me, it's great for my other vapes. Ironically. I'll use my other grinder that grinds finer and double grind. Excited to try!
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Also I think the double tap method works well because I think when the heater heats up it runs hot then settles out lower at the proper temp, so when ur drawing during heatup you get a little extra boost. Or possibly the vape thinks it's running cooler cuz you are drawing air over the coil/sensor so it gets a little hotter to keep up. Not sure.
I've notice on lower temp with cbd flower I've actually managed to make the flavor die in a hit if I time the double heatup and my draw wrong.
Over all I'm getting better with it. Can't repeat results every time and I normally always need the double heat method for the most part, but with some of the massive flavorful hits I've gotten, the potential is clearly there and I'm slowly tapping into it more and more consistently.
Edit: I think the fine grind was the last piece of the puzzle. https://imgur.com/a/o04c1Sv Great extraction, never once used the double heat method, just used it how it was intended.
Edit2: did 2 more sessions at fine grind, awesome vapor from the first pull. Loving this!
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NiCkLeB474
Member
I recently received my phase 3 pro have been getting OK results. Very small clouds but I get thoroughly medicated from one bowl. I am having major overheating issues from the coil whenever I attempt to change the temperature presets with the windows app. If i use default settings, any temp from 360 F to 430 F will not combust or even come close. When I try to use custom presets (348 F & 366 F), the coil turns red hot, takes veeery long to vibrate/turn green, and obviously results in combustion. Should I RMA my device? Is this issue resolved in the firmware update? I don't understand why it is only when I use custom temps (and low temps at that!).
Edit: Just wanted to add another oddity I discovered. Whenever I connect my Square to the app the temperatures all read 350 F across the board.![:\](/i/s/hmm.gif "Hmm :\")
Editception: only when I previously had custom presets on instead of the default.
Edit: Just wanted to add another oddity I discovered. Whenever I connect my Square to the app the temperatures all read 350 F across the board.
Editception: only when I previously had custom presets on instead of the default.
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HELP
I'm sure the answer is somewhere back there but.....
Have Win 10 & App & Pro. When I launch the app it opens, it has the haze symbol in the middle, it sits there for 10 seconds maybe 20 and then just closes. It does this when the square is plugged into the USB both in the on-and-off position.
I kind of remember something about having to be running a specific version of win 10 can anybody advise?
I'm sure the answer is somewhere back there but.....
Have Win 10 & App & Pro. When I launch the app it opens, it has the haze symbol in the middle, it sits there for 10 seconds maybe 20 and then just closes. It does this when the square is plugged into the USB both in the on-and-off position.
I kind of remember something about having to be running a specific version of win 10 can anybody advise?
AJS
Calm Consistency
Mine wouldn't even download at first. I just updated my windows and everything worked fine.
Edit: if you have a 14mm male and a tiny bit of tape you can mate to water. I got absolutely massive rip. First rip was heatsoak, second rip nailed me. https://imgur.com/a/RLr8z1B
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junny89
Well-Known Member
Square working great today. The only problem I had was trying to vape one of the cbd bowls I packed and quickly realize I chose the wrong bowl and it wasn't the cbd I was vaping
Did my first full clean last night seeing how I'm now pretty used to the vape and now know how it all works. Flavor was incredible, clouds were very very satisfactory and smooth. This thing can be beastly when dialed in.
I'm noticing this too.
Fair point. I'm not used to fine fine. I forget what people mean as it's been so long for grinding just a standard medium grind. I'm using the Haze grinder gifted to me, it's great for my other vapes. Ironically. I'll use my other grinder that grinds finer and double grind. Excited to try!
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Also I think the double tap method works well because I think when the heater heats up it runs hot then settles out lower at the proper temp, so when ur drawing during heatup you get a little extra boost. Or possibly the vape thinks it's running cooler cuz you are drawing air over the coil/sensor so it gets a little hotter to keep up. Not sure.
I've notice on lower temp with cbd flower I've actually managed to make the flavor die in a hit if I time the double heatup and my draw wrong.
Over all I'm getting better with it. Can't repeat results every time and I normally always need the double heat method for the most part, but with some of the massive flavorful hits I've gotten, the potential is clearly there and I'm slowly tapping into it more and more consistently.
Edit: I think the fine grind was the last piece of the puzzle. https://imgur.com/a/o04c1Sv Great extraction, never once used the double heat method, just used it how it was intended.
Edit2: did 2 more sessions at fine grind, awesome vapor from the first pull. Loving this!
i use a magic flight finishing grinder and just works wonders.
i got my adaptor from delta 3d studios size small and works really really well. i can take much longer rips and higher temps than i am used to
buchee
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I wanted to update that I got my square pro back. It originally didn't charge so I didn't even have a chance to try it.
First thing I did was charge it via wall charger.(and it started charging YAY!!) Then i packed 4 different strains into each bowl....full pack with tamp...maybe a little overfilled. Started with default first temp and got no vapour but the taste was remarkable. Effects hit me too...very cerebral. Compared to my Herbalizer which gives me more of a body effect, this constantly goes straight to my head. Will have to play with more strains. Stepping up the temp gave me more vapour but nothing like I've seen with others' videos. I think my material is very moist so I'll dry it out and see what kind of vapour I get from that. I am also loving the fact that it truly is an on-demand vape. Woke up in the middle of the night in pain and just had to reach over for the square 3 clicks on set to highest temp...hold button...green go....repeat 3 times...wait a few minutes for my body to relax and back to sleep I go. I'll report back after I get some more testing under my belt but my first impressions of this vape are very good. Colour me impressed.
Congrats Haze on a well thought out on-demand vape.
First thing I did was charge it via wall charger.(and it started charging YAY!!) Then i packed 4 different strains into each bowl....full pack with tamp...maybe a little overfilled. Started with default first temp and got no vapour but the taste was remarkable. Effects hit me too...very cerebral. Compared to my Herbalizer which gives me more of a body effect, this constantly goes straight to my head. Will have to play with more strains. Stepping up the temp gave me more vapour but nothing like I've seen with others' videos. I think my material is very moist so I'll dry it out and see what kind of vapour I get from that. I am also loving the fact that it truly is an on-demand vape. Woke up in the middle of the night in pain and just had to reach over for the square 3 clicks on set to highest temp...hold button...green go....repeat 3 times...wait a few minutes for my body to relax and back to sleep I go. I'll report back after I get some more testing under my belt but my first impressions of this vape are very good. Colour me impressed.
Congrats Haze on a well thought out on-demand vape.
ginolicious
Well-Known Member
People who are getting crazy clouds are in fact double pressing the heater button. This in theory creates a much hotter temperature than what the device is set to therefore allow for greater vapor production. I vape at 395 and on a 3 day old bowl that’s almost completely brown I still exhale vapor. If you want the clouds double or triple press your button. I don’t recommend it. Not the way the unit was designed. And you may want to watch your coil as it may warp, create hot spots in your bud, and prematurely kill your coil.
buchee
Well-Known Member
Hey Gino thanks for the tips. I think I'll go with the intended single press useage for now. Is it quittin' work time yet?
AJS
Calm Consistency
I've been getting massive clouds without double heating since I got my technique and pack down.