Discontinued Elevape SV
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paytonpenn
Level 30 Nature/Healer
Where would be the best place to get this? I noticed Ipuff finally finished updating their website, is VaporNation still the best deal.
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Probably, bc of their various holiday coupon codes. Glad to see you stepping up to join in @paytonpenn! Always enjoy reading your take on a vape
chillersnov8p
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Nice video!! Stir lid looks like it does a fine job. I could see a small bar mounted on the top of the lid to help spin it. Thanks for posting!
I just gotta say, as a longtime EQ owner, and more recently got the portable bug (solo, MFLB, Zeus Pen, an Air, and an Indica in the mail - is that what you call VAS?), this Elevate has to be the most intriguing vape I've seen yet! Must resist the urge to spend more $$ on another vape!!
Vape Dr.
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@paytonpenn check out the new website here and contact Joe for an FC discount!
http://elevapesmart.com/
@wax I would say around .05-ish. As you see, I do not push or pack the herb in the chamber. IMO the ESV works best with a fluffy chamber.
A very little bit goes a very long way.
The stirring lid also helps out a lot!
@snorcan The Elevape is an amazing vaporizer. I can't explain in words how nice the instant draw is.
As a comparison, my Crafty takes 1:37 to heat to 340F.
The Elevape takes zero seconds to heat up to any temperature......simply amazing.....
http://elevapesmart.com/
@wax I would say around .05-ish. As you see, I do not push or pack the herb in the chamber. IMO the ESV works best with a fluffy chamber.
A very little bit goes a very long way.
The stirring lid also helps out a lot!
@snorcan The Elevape is an amazing vaporizer. I can't explain in words how nice the instant draw is.
As a comparison, my Crafty takes 1:37 to heat to 340F.
The Elevape takes zero seconds to heat up to any temperature......simply amazing.....
chillersnov8p
Well-Known Member
While I wait for the new lid to plop, I placed a ss washer under the screw. Similar in size to the stirring lid, I like that it forces the hot air to the perimeter of the bowl. Got me thinking. How much will the stir cap reduce air flow and also how much quicker will the screens need to be swapped. Seems like they have to clog up quicker as surface area is reduced. Or maybe not...
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
I'm finding they can clog quicker indeed, but they are also not entirely necessary. However if you don't use a mouthpiece screen like me you'll get lots of herb in your mouth without one (I plan on putting my screen back in to try again, but I had removed it to maintain airflow as well). I've also actually gotten to use the delrin mouthpiece now and it has better airflow, and clearly some ecig parts fit here too so I'm sure you can find a mouthpiece with better airflow for one thing.
Ive been getting very nice results with the new lid so far with a small bowl like Doc or actually even a more fully packed bowl as well. You just might want to open to give the load an extra tossing once to preserve flavor and even extraction. I still have plenty more experimenting to do like with screens, diff temps, and packs, but I already thought of a few ways the production versions might be improved (which I already passed along to Joe). Either way as it is now, it still lives up to the goal of making the Elevape an effective out and about portable without having to open to stir after each hit, just spin the lid and your golden! Now powerful quick hits can be had anywhere in back to back succession with ease
Ive been getting very nice results with the new lid so far with a small bowl like Doc or actually even a more fully packed bowl as well. You just might want to open to give the load an extra tossing once to preserve flavor and even extraction. I still have plenty more experimenting to do like with screens, diff temps, and packs, but I already thought of a few ways the production versions might be improved (which I already passed along to Joe). Either way as it is now, it still lives up to the goal of making the Elevape an effective out and about portable without having to open to stir after each hit, just spin the lid and your golden! Now powerful quick hits can be had anywhere in back to back succession with ease
natural farmer
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@paytonpenn check out the new website here and contact Joe for an FC discount!
http://elevapesmart.com/
@wax I would say around .05-ish. As you see, I do not push or pack the herb in the chamber. IMO the ESV works best with a fluffy chamber.
A very little bit goes a very long way.
The stirring lid also helps out a lot!
@snorcan The Elevape is an amazing vaporizer. I can't explain in words how nice the instant draw is.
As a comparison, my Crafty takes 1:37 to heat to 340F.
The Elevape takes zero seconds to heat up to any temperature......simply amazing.....
How would you compare the Elevape's hits to those of the Crafty doc?
Thanks for the video Vape Dr!
I'm curious if you think it would still work well with even less material than shown in the video, like only packing 1/4 that amount?
If so, do you think it would be possible to fully extract in just one hit, perhaps at a higher temp.?
I'm searching for a true 'one hitter' portable. I'd rather only pack what I wanna use right now, which is very little.
I'm curious if you think it would still work well with even less material than shown in the video, like only packing 1/4 that amount?
If so, do you think it would be possible to fully extract in just one hit, perhaps at a higher temp.?
I'm searching for a true 'one hitter' portable. I'd rather only pack what I wanna use right now, which is very little.
Vape Dr.
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@natural farmer That is a great question. 
I can't truly answer that for you not knowing the temps you vape at.
However, on the lowest setting on the ESV (305F) compared to 340F on the crafty (my setting) they are quite evenly matched but the Crafty has a bit more vapor IMO.
The Craftys edge is unlimited draw time and it has a slightly larger chamber.
With the ESV you have an 8 sec draw.
With the Crafty, you can draw as long as you want.
To me this is not an issue, I take 8-10 second draws which is on spot with the ESV.
The ESVs edge is it has better battery life, couldn't be easier to use, and is more efficient/conservative IMO.
Crafty heat up to 340F is 1:37.
ESV heat up time to any temp is zero...this is huge for me.
I grab my ESV over my Crafty personally.
@Kofa You are quite welcome for the video! I hope everyone enjoyed it!
I'm sure you could easily put much less (as well as much more) in the ESV than I normally do with excellent results.
I like to pack the chamber fluffy and have an instant one hitter on hand anytime you want a draw with the best possible flavor every time.
I found what works best for me and I love the results.
I'm sure if you increase the temperatures of the ESV you could produce much larger clouds with just a teeny tiny bit though.
@DormVapin The only "portable" if you consider it portable that would stack up to a desktop vape would be the Minivap IMO.
The ESV and the EVO are two totally different beasts, but both are awesome!
@Shit Snacks, adding another fine screen to the bottom (under the silver ring) will keep your ESV much much cleaner. It will also be a bit cooler, so you might have to up the temps a notch or 2 depending on your temps.
I can't truly answer that for you not knowing the temps you vape at.
However, on the lowest setting on the ESV (305F) compared to 340F on the crafty (my setting) they are quite evenly matched but the Crafty has a bit more vapor IMO.
The Craftys edge is unlimited draw time and it has a slightly larger chamber.
With the ESV you have an 8 sec draw.
With the Crafty, you can draw as long as you want.
To me this is not an issue, I take 8-10 second draws which is on spot with the ESV.
The ESVs edge is it has better battery life, couldn't be easier to use, and is more efficient/conservative IMO.
Crafty heat up to 340F is 1:37.
ESV heat up time to any temp is zero...this is huge for me.
I grab my ESV over my Crafty personally.
@Kofa You are quite welcome for the video! I hope everyone enjoyed it!
I'm sure you could easily put much less (as well as much more) in the ESV than I normally do with excellent results.
I like to pack the chamber fluffy and have an instant one hitter on hand anytime you want a draw with the best possible flavor every time.
I found what works best for me and I love the results.
I'm sure if you increase the temperatures of the ESV you could produce much larger clouds with just a teeny tiny bit though.
@DormVapin The only "portable" if you consider it portable that would stack up to a desktop vape would be the Minivap IMO.
The ESV and the EVO are two totally different beasts, but both are awesome!
@Shit Snacks, adding another fine screen to the bottom (under the silver ring) will keep your ESV much much cleaner. It will also be a bit cooler, so you might have to up the temps a notch or 2 depending on your temps.
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stickstones
Vapor concierge
great vid, @Vape Dr. !
The only thing it left me questioning was the temp accuracy. Herbie doesn't tend to produce much additional vapor at higher temps of just five or ten degree increments...you have to bump it up 30 to 50 degrees to get a good hit after it was spent at a lower temp. But maybe you weren't hitting it til done at the lower temps. I would love to see or hear from you on a higher temp like 420 or 440. I was just surprised that you got much of a difference in such a small temp change. Thanks!
The only thing it left me questioning was the temp accuracy. Herbie doesn't tend to produce much additional vapor at higher temps of just five or ten degree increments...you have to bump it up 30 to 50 degrees to get a good hit after it was spent at a lower temp. But maybe you weren't hitting it til done at the lower temps. I would love to see or hear from you on a higher temp like 420 or 440. I was just surprised that you got much of a difference in such a small temp change. Thanks!
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
@DormVapin I have an Underdog (had an LSV before it) I could write up a comparison, been meaning to do that with the Firefly too. And hell might as well throw the T1 in there, convection bonanza!
@Vape Dr. I actually don't think I see that tool with my other accessories, unless it dropped and rolled away somewhere, I don't think I have it here...
@Vape Dr. I actually don't think I see that tool with my other accessories, unless it dropped and rolled away somewhere, I don't think I have it here...
Kaptan
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After viewing Vape Dr's video, I have determined that my Elevape must be defective. When I fill with the same amount, I get maybe 3 draws on the lowest temp and cannot draw for the entire 8 seconds as this tends to char the load and has a burnt taste. I guess I'll be contacting Joe later today.
btka
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thank you @Vape Dr. for the video....
a deeper comparison between the esv and crafty would be great (because i am deciding between this too)
@Shit Snacks yes please do a comparison between hi and esv (as far as i own an enano which i like a lot think it is similar to the hi)
i am specially interessted in taste (how many tasty hits do you get from one bowl, how the taste is compared to other vape and so on), cloud size (density, number of clouds (per say 0.05g load)..., efficency... and all the other things that come to mind...
how is the vapor path of the esv... and also i have seen (i think its for checking the temps) next to the coil there is something round like glass (is it made out of glass or is it plastic) ...
a deeper comparison between the esv and crafty would be great (because i am deciding between this too)
@Shit Snacks yes please do a comparison between hi and esv (as far as i own an enano which i like a lot think it is similar to the hi)
i am specially interessted in taste (how many tasty hits do you get from one bowl, how the taste is compared to other vape and so on), cloud size (density, number of clouds (per say 0.05g load)..., efficency... and all the other things that come to mind...
how is the vapor path of the esv... and also i have seen (i think its for checking the temps) next to the coil there is something round like glass (is it made out of glass or is it plastic) ...
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Its actually the underdog I have, still on the wait list for an HI...
I'm not sure of the material, but next to the coil is the breath sensor that tells the coil to heat up. It is held in with medical grade glue like the lid magnets, but it is not in the vapor path and has zero taste. The vapor path is all adonized aluminun, i think aomeone posted a pic of it at some point? Its a wide open chamber that splits into two plates similar to the Firefly in a way, there is a crown on the bowl plate to diffuse the airflow slightly and with the wide metal path (and instant heating), i seem to pretty much always get a cool smooth hit. The only taste in here is the herb, so it depends on the strain/quality and temps used, and ofcourse how you draw and stir. You can have really pure herbal tastes in the low temps, but dependibg how you use it you can overcook some spots and taste that instead, but it taste like pure overcooked herb, no plastic or combustion tastes. Likewise efficiency depends how you use it, but it is super efficient using small amounts, though a fuller pack can yield larger clouds of course. Powerful hits that take seconds, can let out a shockingly huge cloud sometimes...
I'm not sure of the material, but next to the coil is the breath sensor that tells the coil to heat up. It is held in with medical grade glue like the lid magnets, but it is not in the vapor path and has zero taste. The vapor path is all adonized aluminun, i think aomeone posted a pic of it at some point? Its a wide open chamber that splits into two plates similar to the Firefly in a way, there is a crown on the bowl plate to diffuse the airflow slightly and with the wide metal path (and instant heating), i seem to pretty much always get a cool smooth hit. The only taste in here is the herb, so it depends on the strain/quality and temps used, and ofcourse how you draw and stir. You can have really pure herbal tastes in the low temps, but dependibg how you use it you can overcook some spots and taste that instead, but it taste like pure overcooked herb, no plastic or combustion tastes. Likewise efficiency depends how you use it, but it is super efficient using small amounts, though a fuller pack can yield larger clouds of course. Powerful hits that take seconds, can let out a shockingly huge cloud sometimes...
btka
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@Shit Snacks thank you....
sorry that i confused hi with underdog... but i think day play as the enano in the same league...
hmmm i checked the pictures of the elevape again the breath sensor is more or less under or very near the coil so how is it separated from the airpath? also i am not a fan of using glue in a vape... (maybe i am to paranoid)...
also as far as i read this thread there are very inconsistent reports... about the elevape... are there a lot of differences between elevapes units...
i found a very good deal on the internet for the elevape... (when i have problems with it do i have to deal with the shop first or can i solve my problems (if there would be any) directly with elevape (joe)...
are there fake elevapes on the market or are there older models...
hmmm if it would be on a par with my enano i would definitely purchase it...
sorry that i confused hi with underdog... but i think day play as the enano in the same league...
hmmm i checked the pictures of the elevape again the breath sensor is more or less under or very near the coil so how is it separated from the airpath? also i am not a fan of using glue in a vape... (maybe i am to paranoid)...
also as far as i read this thread there are very inconsistent reports... about the elevape... are there a lot of differences between elevapes units...
i found a very good deal on the internet for the elevape... (when i have problems with it do i have to deal with the shop first or can i solve my problems (if there would be any) directly with elevape (joe)...
are there fake elevapes on the market or are there older models...
hmmm if it would be on a par with my enano i would definitely purchase it...
Vape Dr.
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@stickstones I start my herbalizer on 340F and my ESV on 305F. I have 2 fine chamber screens, and tweaked the coil a little bit. They are both comparable at those temps. The accuracy of the ESV temps may be off, but at least its something to go off of.
@PPN You should definitely get one!
@Kaptan you might need to tweak your coil.
@btka You are welcome for the video, I hope everyone enjoyed it! Contact Joe at elevape, he gives an FC discount! The taste of the ESV is delicious! I have been using only 305F & 310F-315F with the watertool.
The airpath is shown a few pages back when I posted pics of my mouth piece. It is free and clear!
@Shit Snacks, The lens under the coil is actually a camera that takes 100 frames per second of the coil to maintain set temperature from airflow of your draw. Make sure that stays clean. @Kaptan you might want to check yours and make sure its clean.
@PPN You should definitely get one!
@Kaptan you might need to tweak your coil.
@btka You are welcome for the video, I hope everyone enjoyed it! Contact Joe at elevape, he gives an FC discount! The taste of the ESV is delicious! I have been using only 305F & 310F-315F with the watertool.
The airpath is shown a few pages back when I posted pics of my mouth piece. It is free and clear!
@Shit Snacks, The lens under the coil is actually a camera that takes 100 frames per second of the coil to maintain set temperature from airflow of your draw. Make sure that stays clean. @Kaptan you might want to check yours and make sure its clean.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
Thanks doc. So what happens if you set it to max temp? How close to combusting?
btka
Well-Known Member
@Vape Dr. do you mean this post (regarding the airpath)
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/elevape-sv.13517/page-33#post-698720
but the air have to pass the coil or and next to the coil is the sensor (camera) hmmm.... or am i wrong... as far as i am not posessing an elevape i can only guess regarding to pictures.... sorry
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/elevape-sv.13517/page-33#post-698720
but the air have to pass the coil or and next to the coil is the sensor (camera) hmmm.... or am i wrong... as far as i am not posessing an elevape i can only guess regarding to pictures.... sorry
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Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Oh interesting, it has a camera! Yeah it is technically in the airpath, air travels over it kind of? But its inert, no taste, and i thought you had asked specifically about the vapor path, not the entire airpath. I think I'd be skeptical of that in a session vape, but the way this works its not like something malfunctions and then your left cooking and inhaling fumes, the instant on puts it in another category I think
Vape Dr.
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@stickstones I would be willing to bet it would come close to, or combust at max temp.
@btka Yes that is the air path.
You can see the rectangular holes around the top of the oven, they work in conjunction with the oven lids design to allow air flow.
Here is a pic of the coil and camera.
Here is a bottom view of the top portion.
The ESV is more than capable of satisfying 2 or 3 people the way I pack it.
@btka Yes that is the air path.
You can see the rectangular holes around the top of the oven, they work in conjunction with the oven lids design to allow air flow.
Here is a pic of the coil and camera.
Here is a bottom view of the top portion.
The ESV is more than capable of satisfying 2 or 3 people the way I pack it.
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