yea I can take a stab at it man. might take me a day or so though...
E-Nano from Epickai
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
Moisture of your flowers?
TeeJay1952
Well-Known Member
Different strains, different settings but usually:
7 for flowers
10 for wax
7 for flowers
10 for wax
Tweak
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I think mine is running hot, I've never ventured past 7 and can char my load even on 6 if the nano has been sitting there awhile.
There are a few major factors that could be attributed to a cooler nano. For one is the power source, dirty power can have the nano all over the place. #2 is ambient temperature or air flow, having a fan or A/C blowing near the nano can cool it off. And as always, your stash will make a difference.
llamaman001
Well-Known Member
Finally some epic swag! All we need now is a working point system. Mine still hasent updated since i bought my nano
skipbifferty
Well-Known Member
Ataxian, I personally wouldn't worry about the temperatures and settings people quote here. From reading many of the posts here, you'd be easily mistaken for thinking that there's no harm in vaping at high temperatures. Well, personally I think there is, and it's down simply to the harmful (and unnecessary) vapors that are released when you go past a certain temperature.
I think yes there are slight differences between PWM controllers - the temp dial used on the Nano is a very simple design, there isn't a whole lot of QC going on at the factory floor where they are made.
That said, there is also a difference in how far the adjustable basket is placed from the heating element. For reference, @flotntoke pointed out that the notched flat part of the metal E-Pik is designed to not only stir your herb, but also as a depth guage for the screen! (I'll try to get some pictures later to explain).
However, all in all, I like you run between 7 and 8 pretty much all the time. Sometimes I go down to 6.5 to enjoy the flavor, but 7.0 is my normal temperature. My loads always sit within 1mm of the heat screen.
Hell, I haven't charred my ABV since the first day or two when I accidentally turned the temp dial up to 10!
skipbifferty
Well-Known Member
I just think it should be made more clear that hamful toxins are released way before (I think) combustion, and that harmful toxins do exist in vaping. I agree about all the other variables though.
Propaganja
Well-Known Member
gotta try using the eoik as a leveler.. maybe will help me get my optimum distance.
Tweak
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For my dry stems I like to use dual screens, so that is an option for you. I cut one of the epic screens down to about 1mm, so it acts as a buffer between the Heat port and my material. Makes it easy to shake for stirring instead of using the e-pic.
flotntoke
thoroughly vaped
EDIT DAMN @Ratchett !!! Do you live here or what? 
You scooped me again!! I either have to start typing faster, refreshing better or stop sitting here with my nano in front of me while I pontificate! Seriously though.. thanks for all your great input!
There are definitely temperature differences between individual nanos. It has been discussed previously here and there a bit through this thread.
Some of this is due to changes in production over the past year and a half. From what I can tell, the newer detachable cords run a slight bit cooler. I had started figuring this was the case soon after they started being used and the particular one I had an opportunity to try was about 1/2 setting cooler compared to my older nano (or could be a bit more or less as there were certainly other unmeasured variables in play).
All of the other variables mentioned above also matter. Electricity at your receptacle definitely makes a difference - sometimes more than others. I've used my nano at a few different locations, and each seems a bit different. Surge suppressors and extension cords have an effect here, too. I'm sure voltage step-downs add even more inconsistency.
Obviously, dryness of material, how you draw, dry vs. wet and other factors come into play too - as well as room temp and air circulation (as I think tweak mentioned), and other things I'm sure.
Add to all of this that analog dials, like the one on the nano, will usually have a variation in how much current they let through at whatever setting. And, the knob part itself on the control is not exact in how it reflects power/temperature. There is a smaller toothed knob under the plastic part you use. The teeth can be off a little from dial to dial, and the numbers/dashes we use may not be applied in exactly the same position on every one.
While this can create some confusion (especially with comparisons here in the thread) it's not uncommon for most vapes, nor is it a bad thing - actually IMO quite the opposite!
I used an EQ for a couple years before I got the nano. Similar discussions were common, as well as the fact that the temp shown on the lcd screen may not be your actual vaping temp. I (and most others) came to the conclusion that it doesn't matter as long as your unit stays consistent. So my setting 7 on nano dial (or 200 C on EQ screen) may not be the same as others, but as long as that setting is the same every time I can get consistent vaping results. Since vaping itself is so subjective and so many other variables are involved, there will always be individual preferences on temp settings that will vary a bit anyway.
Why is this "not a bad thing"? Part of the problem here is caused by the fact that the dial is so sensitive. Just a small nudge in either direction will usually give a noticeable result. This means we have a good bit of temp control, which I've found to be very beneficial in use. It's easy to adjust only a tad for different strains, moisture content, bubblers, room conditions, thickness/smoothness of vapor you're looking for, etc, etc.
If you'd like your dial settings to be different than where they are, it isn't hard to change them. I noticed my settings shifted and 0 wasn't exactly my "off click" spot when I got my nano back after some updates (including a new cord and dial). Andy suggested I move it to wherever I like. You can pop the numbered dial/knob part off pretty easily, then put it on closer to where you want it. Closer but not necessarily exactly. There are teeth on the internal knob and teeth on the numbered dial/knob we use and they have to mate up, so I'd suggest you don't try to jam it back on if the teeth aren't in mesh. I also wouldn't do this too much as it is bound to loosen things up a bit every time you do, and eventually the plastic knob probably wouldn't stay on as well. If you're careful you can use the E-Pik to pry the outer knob off without bending it or damaging the dial. Then just line it up exactly where you want it, and move a little one way or the other to align the teeth if necessary. If you wanted to you could set it up so it combusted at setting 3 every time, or 10 barely gives vapor - or anywhere in between! Just another cool thing about the nano.
Is this thing fucking amazing or what??
EDIT #2
Yes! The E-Pik is fucking amazing, too!! Thanks for the acknowledgement on the E-Pik depth setting, but not entirely sure that was mine. Might have been, but honestly don't remember if I came up with it or re-mentioned it. Damn vapor clouds my brain!!
Including this one and knob removal I think I'm up to 6 or 7 different functions. It's like the swiss army knife of vaping. Plus, I still think it looks cool hanging on my glass - no matter what anyone else says.
For what it's worth, I can char a load that's been hit a few times at 7.5 if not very careful. 8.5 will scorch almost every time right out of the gate. I do like to keep my stash very dry, though. Learned here years ago that dry meds vape better than moist. Moister has its benefits too I guess, but I have my routine and habits now and don't usually shift too much on things like this.
EDIT# 3 Think this concludes my chapter for the day!
You scooped me again!! I either have to start typing faster, refreshing better or stop sitting here with my nano in front of me while I pontificate! Seriously though.. thanks for all your great input!There are definitely temperature differences between individual nanos. It has been discussed previously here and there a bit through this thread.
Some of this is due to changes in production over the past year and a half. From what I can tell, the newer detachable cords run a slight bit cooler. I had started figuring this was the case soon after they started being used and the particular one I had an opportunity to try was about 1/2 setting cooler compared to my older nano (or could be a bit more or less as there were certainly other unmeasured variables in play).
All of the other variables mentioned above also matter. Electricity at your receptacle definitely makes a difference - sometimes more than others. I've used my nano at a few different locations, and each seems a bit different. Surge suppressors and extension cords have an effect here, too. I'm sure voltage step-downs add even more inconsistency.
Obviously, dryness of material, how you draw, dry vs. wet and other factors come into play too - as well as room temp and air circulation (as I think tweak mentioned), and other things I'm sure.
Add to all of this that analog dials, like the one on the nano, will usually have a variation in how much current they let through at whatever setting. And, the knob part itself on the control is not exact in how it reflects power/temperature. There is a smaller toothed knob under the plastic part you use. The teeth can be off a little from dial to dial, and the numbers/dashes we use may not be applied in exactly the same position on every one.
While this can create some confusion (especially with comparisons here in the thread) it's not uncommon for most vapes, nor is it a bad thing - actually IMO quite the opposite!
I used an EQ for a couple years before I got the nano. Similar discussions were common, as well as the fact that the temp shown on the lcd screen may not be your actual vaping temp. I (and most others) came to the conclusion that it doesn't matter as long as your unit stays consistent. So my setting 7 on nano dial (or 200 C on EQ screen) may not be the same as others, but as long as that setting is the same every time I can get consistent vaping results. Since vaping itself is so subjective and so many other variables are involved, there will always be individual preferences on temp settings that will vary a bit anyway.
Why is this "not a bad thing"? Part of the problem here is caused by the fact that the dial is so sensitive. Just a small nudge in either direction will usually give a noticeable result. This means we have a good bit of temp control, which I've found to be very beneficial in use. It's easy to adjust only a tad for different strains, moisture content, bubblers, room conditions, thickness/smoothness of vapor you're looking for, etc, etc.
If you'd like your dial settings to be different than where they are, it isn't hard to change them. I noticed my settings shifted and 0 wasn't exactly my "off click" spot when I got my nano back after some updates (including a new cord and dial). Andy suggested I move it to wherever I like. You can pop the numbered dial/knob part off pretty easily, then put it on closer to where you want it. Closer but not necessarily exactly. There are teeth on the internal knob and teeth on the numbered dial/knob we use and they have to mate up, so I'd suggest you don't try to jam it back on if the teeth aren't in mesh. I also wouldn't do this too much as it is bound to loosen things up a bit every time you do, and eventually the plastic knob probably wouldn't stay on as well. If you're careful you can use the E-Pik to pry the outer knob off without bending it or damaging the dial. Then just line it up exactly where you want it, and move a little one way or the other to align the teeth if necessary. If you wanted to you could set it up so it combusted at setting 3 every time, or 10 barely gives vapor - or anywhere in between! Just another cool thing about the nano.
Is this thing fucking amazing or what??
EDIT #2
Yes! The E-Pik is fucking amazing, too!! Thanks for the acknowledgement on the E-Pik depth setting, but not entirely sure that was mine. Might have been, but honestly don't remember if I came up with it or re-mentioned it. Damn vapor clouds my brain!!
Including this one and knob removal I think I'm up to 6 or 7 different functions. It's like the swiss army knife of vaping. Plus, I still think it looks cool hanging on my glass - no matter what anyone else says.
For what it's worth, I can char a load that's been hit a few times at 7.5 if not very careful. 8.5 will scorch almost every time right out of the gate. I do like to keep my stash very dry, though. Learned here years ago that dry meds vape better than moist. Moister has its benefits too I guess, but I have my routine and habits now and don't usually shift too much on things like this.
EDIT# 3 Think this concludes my chapter for the day!
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Caligula
Maximus
TLDR; but @steama Andy has stated that sometimes the dials aren't zeroed out when it's assembeled so the markings can be off a bit from the actual dial position. What he suggested was to remove the dial (pops off), then put it back on while making sure the "off" position is where it should be on the dial.
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
NightTrain
Well-Known Member
Will a hydratube work with the enano or would the weight of it push the gong down to far?
The weight isn't the issue, it's more a concern over herb falling down onto your heater. If you sandwich your herb between two screens in the GonG before you connect to the nano, you'll be golden.
NightTrain
Well-Known Member
That's good to know, thanks man.
Newcastle
Stoned!
I have to ask..... is that my Afzalia burl?
#snappoforwood
check for more exotics this week. These are sold. Supplied by Snappo.
#prettierinperson
Enchantre
Oil Painter
When I used my Nano with my Fanatic HT from VXL, I held the HT in one hand, then lifted the Nano to meet it. I wouldn't rest the whole weight on it, myself.
I have a video around here somewhere with an HT... the credits list that I used a 14mm Gong from @ACE OF VAPE , plus a 14->18mm adaptor I got from Oregon Glass Blower, as the HT from VXL is an 18.8mm female connection.
If it were me, I'd test it first to see if your concern holds water, so to speak. The Hydrotube is not a lightweight accessory so I think your concern is warranted. Hydrotubes can also be very finicky when it comes to water level, and if you don't have that right or lean it at too much of an angle it can leak - you don't want that.
Wow!!! Looks like your Afzelia burl! And also looks like the Golden Amboyna burl, Big Leaf maple burl, and Golden White Teak also!!!
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flotntoke
thoroughly vaped
Way cool vid @Enchantre !!! Nice seeing it again.
@NightTrain it should work fine. IME the little pinnacle jobby isn't worth the hassle, and the nano just loves being inverted (sexy, little, kinky bitch mine is anyway) so am more than happy with bubblers here. But if you've already got one it should do well, just a little tricky to set up without spillage. Best way I found while messing with the pinnacle is... load gong, invert nano onto it, flip the mated set, line up hydratube and go. Really not too bad. But, putting a loaded and un-well-tamped stem/GonG on an upright nano can easily get a bit messy and wasteful.