Vaporware

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It just a piece of coiled metal. How would it shorten the life? Aren't they basically good forever?

It’s thin metal with a lot of little holes in it. Torching screens seems to shorten their lives, and I think the Dynacoil would be similar.

I’m sure there are people who torch theirs and never notice a problem, but I just use iso on mine and I don’t have to clean it too often. I think that may be because I only load pretty small amounts.

I’ve heard ultrasonic cleaners work very well for things like this too. I should really look into one again... :sherlock:
 

mwnger

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I’m torn between the new Omni and MVS. I already have the OG XL Omni and Vortex. I don’t care much about the Vortex. I mostly use the Omni because of the adjustable airflow. Since now the MVS airflow is adjustable too, I can’t decide. I don’t care about the vapor being cooler.

What are your opinions? I’m leaning more towards the MVS with a SS tip, because it seems to me that it brings all Omni features and more, and I think it looks better, but I’ve been reading some users saying the Omni gets you a thicker/harder hit vapor. Is this actually the case? Could I adjust the MVS to get there or it’s a lost cause?

Also, If I decide on the Omni, do you think it’s worth to upgrade, since I already have the OG XL Omni?

Thank you.

I will share my opinion, I was in a similar position. I can't speak about the new Omni, but I have the previous Omni XL, and I recently bought the MVS. For me the best features, the USPs of the MVS are:
1. Cooling
2. Aesthetics

What the Simrell does which other stems do not match, is cool the air. There is no heat with the flow of air so there is no hotspot in my mouth, like I'd get with my Omni stem or any of my others. Consequently the hits are very smooth. You can still feel it in the throat on the way in, but that feeling of 'thick' vapor is much diminished. The vapor can still be as dense and potent, it just doesn't feel it because it is cooler.

The adjustable airflow works well, however even when cut down to very low, the vapor signature is smooth, cool, light and airy to me, in comparison to any other Dynavap stem I have tried. It's still has plenty of kick in its effect, but if you want a punchy hit I kind of think that is the opposite of what this stem aims at.

The other big difference between the MVS and my Omni stems is the weight. I like to use my Omni's with wooden stems to make them very light, and with the Dynavap mouthpieces they can hang easily in the mouth, hands free. The MVS does not have the same shape, and due to that and the extra mass I find I usually always hold it in my fingers during use.

I can't answer your question about the new Omni being a worthwhile upgrade. I thought about it and decided not to. I didn't think it quite offered enough for myself. I do quite like the way it looks and I am pleased to see Dynavap developing the product further and adding function, but it didn't seem to offer that much more I actually wanted.

It’s thin metal with a lot of little holes in it. Torching screens seems to shorten their lives, and I think the Dynacoil would be similar.

I’m sure there are people who torch theirs and never notice a problem, but I just use iso on mine and I don’t have to clean it too often. I think that may be because I only load pretty small amounts.

I’ve heard ultrasonic cleaners work very well for things like this too. I should really look into one again... :sherlock:
I had an ultrasonic cleaner, one of the cheap 600ml ones from ebay. It worked very well with either sodium percarbonate/PBW and warm water, or isopropyl in a small bag, placed in the water. It worked well for about 6 months or so of regular use (ie 2 x per week) before it recently just stopped working. I did like it but I don't want to buy one every six months so I'm going back to PBW and isopropyl soaks.
 

Duba

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I have the old Omni Xl and the Stinger from Simrell on a XXL wood stem (8cm). I tried others ones shorters but my favorite is the longer, for me the best draft/flavor/consistency balance.
Stinger gives smoother hits than the Omni but i love how my Omni works and tickles my throat and lungs...
 

endof3d

Cognitive Dissonance D 5 +
If you already have an Omni. you might want to consider the new VonG. I really like it's air port control, and I frankly think it is quite handsome.
@alex91 Consider putting the Vong on your list of options. Here's the weight of tips in grams for the Vong and Omni's for comparison:

2020 Ti - 3.192
2021 Vong - 3.755
2021 Omni - 4.149

Been switching the Vong tip between multiple stems: Vortex, M with Stinger, Shell Shock, and glass with great results for me. Even liking it with the 21 captive cap, which is something I thought I would never say. Will be picking up several 21 Vong tips when/if available.
 

Vaporware

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That’s interesting! I’d figured they left a little more metal on the Vong tip by cutting less channels into it, but maybe since they were wider cuts it came out to more material? I should have just taken mine off and weighed them.

The Vong does still have its crown though. Has anyone noticed much difference between that tip on the Vong vs other stems?
 
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tasteslikehoney

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I currently have a 2017 M and was tempted to upgrade to a 2021 M (or VonG/Omni). I don't really have much experience in the vape space (or with other VapCaps). Can anyone who's used some of the older Ms say whether the upgrades are worth it??

Alternatively I was tempted by a TinyMight, but I'm a pretty casual user on the whole and don't know if I need a convection vape.

Any thoughts would be appreciated! Cheers. I've also heard good things about a TI cap. Maybe that could be a sufficient upgrade.
 

Smokey McVape

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I currently have a 2017 M and was tempted to upgrade to a 2021 M (or VonG/Omni). I don't really have much experience in the vape space (or with other VapCaps). Can anyone who's used some of the older Ms say whether the upgrades are worth it??

Alternatively I was tempted by a TinyMight, but I'm a pretty casual user on the whole and don't know if I need a convection vape.

Any thoughts would be appreciated! Cheers. I've also heard good things about a TI cap. Maybe that could be a sufficient upgrade.
TBH if you don't use your Dynavap daily I would stick to the 2017M - unless money is no issue.
However, changing to Ti tip is relatively inexpensive and is a substantial upgrade to the M on its own.
If I were you, I would buy a Ti tip first. If you enjoy the difference then consider upgrading to an Omni.
 

Greenleaf88

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I currently have a 2017 M and was tempted to upgrade to a 2021 M (or VonG/Omni). I don't really have much experience in the vape space (or with other VapCaps). Can anyone who's used some of the older Ms say whether the upgrades are worth it??

Alternatively I was tempted by a TinyMight, but I'm a pretty casual user on the whole and don't know if I need a convection vape.

Any thoughts would be appreciated! Cheers. I've also heard good things about a TI cap. Maybe that could be a sufficient upgrade.
I agree, with if you don't vape too often just a new ti tip and maybe a ti condenser but not necessary.
I personally prefer the older M models,
It has more of a restricted airflow. Allows me to get warmer and bigger hits, but that's a preference.
If money is no option I would go for the omni or mvs but only if money is no option.
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
I currently have a 2017 M and was tempted to upgrade to a 2021 M (or VonG/Omni). I don't really have much experience in the vape space (or with other VapCaps). Can anyone who's used some of the older Ms say whether the upgrades are worth it??

Alternatively I was tempted by a TinyMight, but I'm a pretty casual user on the whole and don't know if I need a convection vape.

Any thoughts would be appreciated! Cheers. I've also heard good things about a TI cap. Maybe that could be a sufficient upgrade.
I love my VapCaps. They do what they do very well and for not much money. A newer M is a slight upgrade that you may very well appreciate. You would notice more of an upgrade (IMO) with a Ti tip. You would notice even more of an upgrade if you moved up in the DV line to a VonG (love my new VonG) or an Omni. That would move you up to Titanium as well as adding some features. That is a nice upgrade.

I am not sure exactly what you mean by calling yourself a "pretty casual user". I don't know if that means you rarely vape, or are just moving to vaping, or are only looking at vaping as a background occasional activity. But a TinyMight is (again IMO) a different class of vape than a VC and hard to compare. It is roughly 3 times as expensive as your M and is battery powered rather than butane. It is like comparing a manual jeep to a Tesla. I love driving a Jeep with a stick, but it is loud and a bumpy ride in comparison to a Tesla. I would definitely prefer the jeep on a bumpy dirt mountain road, but on an interstate at speed the Tesla would surely be my preference. It depends on what you are after.
If you were less of a casual user, or if by casual you really mean a new vaper, than I might suggest you get both. I have both and I use and love both, but I am a committed vaper (and some might say I should be committed) and there are definitely situations for me that make one or the other better for that situation. So it is kinda hard to say one is better than the other.
 

snackmaster

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I rarely have any problems with dynavaps but I just received 2 new caps, one captive, and they both seem to not extract at all? They click fast and all but After. Hits the abv is still green, if I use my old cap it quickly extracts with no problems. What’s wrong with the new caps?
You using an induction heater? I know I've read some older caps run hotter than the new ones. Something about iron content...
 

tasteslikehoney

New Member
I love my VapCaps. They do what they do very well and for not much money. A newer M is a slight upgrade that you may very well appreciate. You would notice more of an upgrade (IMO) with a Ti tip. You would notice even more of an upgrade if you moved up in the DV line to a VonG (love my new VonG) or an Omni. That would move you up to Titanium as well as adding some features. That is a nice upgrade.

I am not sure exactly what you mean by calling yourself a "pretty casual user". I don't know if that means you rarely vape, or are just moving to vaping, or are only looking at vaping as a background occasional activity. But a TinyMight is (again IMO) a different class of vape than a VC and hard to compare. It is roughly 3 times as expensive as your M and is battery powered rather than butane. It is like comparing a manual jeep to a Tesla. I love driving a Jeep with a stick, but it is loud and a bumpy ride in comparison to a Tesla. I would definitely prefer the jeep on a bumpy dirt mountain road, but on an interstate at speed the Tesla would surely be my preference. It depends on what you are after.
If you were less of a casual user, or if by casual you really mean a new vaper, than I might suggest you get both. I have both and I use and love both, but I am a committed vaper (and some might say I should be committed) and there are definitely situations for me that make one or the other better for that situation. So it is kinda hard to say one is better than the other.
Cheers for the detailed reply cybrguy...!

To clarify I've been vaping for like 10 years now (vaping & smoking until I quit the combustion about a year ago). I can't even remember the name of the vape I had pre-DynaVap but it did the trick. By casual I just mean I'll vape every now then, maybe a couple times a week and usually pretty low dose.

I actually already had a moment of stoned weakness and ordered a TinyMight. I've been tempted to cancel my order or return it because the VC hits me easily hard enough as it is and the TM is prettyy expensive. When do you find yourself reaching for the TM instead of a VC? ... Maybe I should just keep both and join the collectors club :sherlock:
 

Smokey McVape

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I rarely have any problems with dynavaps but I just received 2 new caps, one captive, and they both seem to not extract at all? They click fast and all but After. Hits the abv is still green, if I use my old cap it quickly extracts with no problems. What’s wrong with the new caps?
I have the same issue with the captive caps being too loose and not producing vapour but as far as I know Dynavap say there has been no change to the caps other than the addition of the captive lugs. You can use pliers to get rid of the lugs and then pinch the cap for a better fit and it works much better.
 
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DonMarteng

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So I went through a bad breakup right before 4/20 and compensated well with buying a ton of Dynateds!
Bought so much shit - very few regrets (puh)!
If you want a comparison between the old and new Omni, the new Vong and the MVS Im happy to add my opinion.
Ive been testing all mostly in a 16mm Flite IH or during charging times a Click and Go IH (cheap, but does the job).
Out of them all I use the new Omni the most!
Why? The taste is magnificent, the clouds are big and the ABV is a normal brown color I like.
I take it out at the first click and rarely go to the 2nd one because the Flite is just too powerful for that.
What I like is the adjustable airflow, it works better than in the old one.
Set it to 85% closed and never touched it since, also using the half bowl setting in the tip.
This gives me 4 very powerful drags everytime, no variance, full effects, if i need more I repack another half bowl.
Ive used about 1-1,5g of material daily lately, but since all these new DVs reached me Im down to like .3 but still medicated all the fn time.
Bought my first DV in 2017 and used them on and off since then, but this new Omni has some magic to it, maybe mine is special due to the engraving? :D
Well, the Vong is my second favourite at the moment, its really nice to use with a bong/bubbler with the fully closed carb.
The wood turns smooth on mine and was only stiff (hehe) at the first 2-3 heatings.
The tip is very similar to the Omni although I think it gets a tiny bit hotter/harsher.
Its ok to use the Vong natively, the cigar feeling in the hand is the best, but the Omni just does it a little bit tastier for me.
Been using Captive Caps only with the new lineup and they finally work how they were supposed to.
They stick on there like a champ and are still removable with a magnet, didnt have a single accidental slip so far.
Prefer my old Omni with a normal cap still, but its literally unusable for me atm without a lowtemp-cap with the Flite.
With the LTC its a blast though, very much comparable to the new Omni.
Nobody NEEDS a new Omni, if there is an old model in the house!
It does make my VAS very happy though and it feels great to spin in the hand.
Now the MVS would be my only small "regret".
I already have a Vortex which sits on my Crafty permanently and is a fabulous addon for that.
Never liked the Vortex too much for DVs - takes out literally most of the flavour and punch, but you are still blowing out big clouds.
Prefering the popcorn clouds and my weed strains taste so great, why should I numb this in any way?
Got the MVS by shipping accident from an EU retailer and was allowed to keep it so Im not gonna brag too much about a gift.
The MVS is way fatter than a Vortex, also heavier. Some may say it feels more valuable, others might say its just too heavy.
For me its too fat and heavy in comparison to the normal Vortex.
The 2 different air holes you can use on the stem feel very similar besides one making a louder noise.
I tried a lot of different settings, but ended up just covering it completely.
Tried all new tips and a standart TI and new 7 fin Ti, ended up leaving the 7 fin on there, but pick it up less than the others.
If you think the Vortex is the best stem ever made and youre missing the set and forget feature from the omni, the MVS might be just for you.
Otherwise do yourself a favour and use this money on a new Omni or Vong, I think it has more "special" to it.
Also bought a Dynalure and its my secret champion. Im not even a fisherman but this little pickle is hellofafun to use :)
Because I was still thinking of broken relationships and sad shit too much I decided to also get a NEMO brass case on Etsy.
These things are very expensive, but the craftmanship is unique. Check it out if youre still looking for the right case for your Dynavaps.
Now I feel like I bought enough happiness to face reality once more :D
If you want some further details on any of the new stuff let me know!
Happily here to help!
 

RustyOldNail

SEARCH for the treasure...
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Thought it was time to add a visual of the CAPTIVE CAP discussion. Best GIF resolution I could do with the forum file size limit.

All FIVE of my titanium tips, same behavior, as well as the 7-Fin. The titanium tip/cap pictured is brand new, captive cap came with the BB6 set.

If squeezed anymore, the cap does NOT come off with DV magnets, too tight. So this is as good as it gets with a CAPTIVE CAP. The vertical position of the stem, is mostly how one uses it in an IH. Painful to pay $40.00 for an additional 2 REGULAR caps, but I did. A properly formed NON Captive cap, will not move with gravity, but will slide off with magnet.

Debatable question, how does this effect the vapor, if at all, as well as overall operation?
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
View attachment 7513

Thought it was time to add a visual of the CAPTIVE CAP discussion. Best GIF resolution I could do with the forum file size limit.

All FIVE of my titanium tips, same behavior, as well as the 7-Fin. The titanium tip/cap pictured is brand new, captive cap came with the BB6 set.

If squeezed anymore, the cap does NOT come off with DV magnets, too tight. So this is as good as it gets with a CAPTIVE CAP. The vertical position of the stem, is mostly how one uses it in an IH. Painful to pay $40.00 for an additional 2 REGULAR caps, but I did. A properly formed NON Captive cap, will not move with gravity, but will slide off with magnet.

Debatable question, how does this effect the vapor, if at all, as well as overall operation?

I had my doubts about it but decided to reserve judgement until I had one. It is definitely doable.

Just to be clear, this is with the new VonG tip. I have not tried it with an older tip.
 
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RustyOldNail

SEARCH for the treasure...
I don’t own that tip. The only tip a CC works on for me is... the 2020m SS TIP. It’s all where the CAP indents line up with the particular CUTS on any given tip model.
 
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cybrguy

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Took this for a PM. May as well share it here. Pardon the filthy carpet...
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cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
Yes. The M is still stainless. All of it I think, stem, tip, condenser, CCD and cap. Otherwise everything else metal is Ti now exept the cap.
 
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whatitdew

Vapes R Great
View attachment 7513

Thought it was time to add a visual of the CAPTIVE CAP discussion. Best GIF resolution I could do with the forum file size limit.

All FIVE of my titanium tips, same behavior, as well as the 7-Fin. The titanium tip/cap pictured is brand new, captive cap came with the BB6 set.

If squeezed anymore, the cap does NOT come off with DV magnets, too tight. So this is as good as it gets with a CAPTIVE CAP. The vertical position of the stem, is mostly how one uses it in an IH. Painful to pay $40.00 for an additional 2 REGULAR caps, but I did. A properly formed NON Captive cap, will not move with gravity, but will slide off with magnet.

Debatable question, how does this effect the vapor, if at all, as well as overall operation?

I hate that little loose gap until the first edge grips. Drives me bonkers. Have been using the captive cap again to give it another try.
it’s working ok, but that little gap bugs me!
 

ataxian

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Took this for a PM. May as well share it here. Pardon the filthy carpet...
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R COLAS outdated ?
I freaked out all that saw the COLAS of CANNABIS growing wild in the back planter?
The “stainless unit is a testing device beyond conceived knowledge?
Function verses Bling = function is a equation that is decent!
 
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