Dynavap VapCap

[nickdanger]

My concern is not just the loosening of the wooden stem/body (I haven't experienced this at all) but also wear and tear on the o-rings. Like I said, just anal. I don't need to clean my 'Caps very often at all, since I microdose and am a lightweight user.

 

[Mr.Sifter]

Would be totally fine for me to change the o rings twice a year.
wear and tear stuff.

but the wooden diameter of vongs getting loose from putting tips in and out makes me think less of vongs.
but they are so nice to hold... damn you wood

 

[Hogni]

Thicker o-rings?

 

[cybrguy]

We talked about this a few (probably many) pages back and one of our wood guys, @Winegums I think, agreed that increasing the frequency of tip removal from wooden parts likely will lead to some weakness in the connection over time. If you want to carry multiple tips and/or have OCD (literally or figuratively) and clean your VC very often, you may be better off with a TI or Steel VC rather than a wood one. View your HT orings as consumables and there is no downside to swapping tips in a metal stem. As we have seen they can be gotten cheaply in larger quantities.
As a data point, my Nonavong connection and my Woody connection have NOT gotten noticeably looser yet and I'm sure I have cleaned/separated both more than a dozen times. The Woody is probably a couple years old now.

 

[Boden]

Wood will weaken as it drys out. Keep it wet with mineral oil and it’ll last a long time.

Also when you take the tip out don’t bend it back and forth. Pull straight out.


(I actually want this one in the out-o-context thread )

 

[sirwalter]

Haven't ordered yet, just want to be 100% sure that these are exactly what we need as replacement High Temperature O-Rings for the Ti Tip / OmniVap. Absolutely, totally, unequivically sure? Thanks.

I can confirm the silicone o-rings are the correct size. I really like the silicone o-rings more than the vitol- the vitol never seemed to last me very long before getting hard. The silicone also has a slightly higher temp rating.

http://www.oringsandmore.com/silicone-o-rings-6-x-1mm-price-for-10-pcs/

 

[Winegums]

We talked about this a few (probably many) pages back and one of our wood guys, @Winegums I think, agreed that increasing the frequency of tip removal from wooden parts likely will lead to some weakness in the connection over time. If you want to carry multiple tips and/or have OCD (literally or figuratively) and clean your VC very often, you may be better off with a TI or Steel VC rather than a wood one. View your HT orings as consumables and there is no downside to swapping tips in a metal stem. As we have seen they can be gotten cheaply in larger quantities.
As a data point, my Nonavong connection and my Woody connection have NOT gotten noticeably looser yet and I'm sure I have cleaned/separated both more than a dozen times. The Woody is probably a couple years old now.

The amount of times I was inserting and removing my very tight fitting Gen 3 tip was on the order of a dozen times every week for months until I got a gen 4 tip. It took about 3 months average for me to wear out some of my medium hardwood stems (non-Dynavap). The middle and right stem both had to be retired due to the tip falling out of the piece. I have another that is also in the retired bin.

Dynavap uses very hard woods and the newer Ti tips have better o-ring grooves, less sharp corners than previous generations. I don’t see it being as much of an issue now but still don’t recommend constantly swapping in and out of non metal stems if possible.

This is part of why I made the switch to metal lined stems. They’re stronger, more wear resistant, and if the wood fails you still have a functioning Vapcap until it can be replaced or repaired.

 

[ArthurJ]

I got this nice malee burl piece through the classifieds.
Always nice to pick up a new piece in the classifieds.

 

[Boden]

 

[mucsusn]

ah yes, this could be it.
Do you worry about sharing one ti tip with several wooden stems?

I am under the impression that each time I remove the tip the fit gets a little more lose.
true ?

my rh is around 50%

I swap tips, stems, bodies all the time. A bit of vape butter does the trick

 

[Mr.Sifter]

butter conditiones the wood.
its taking take of wood.

but inserting and removig tips changes the diameter of the stem.
I dont think butter or wax can fix this.

A horror to think about a nice wooden VONG that looses the tip while heating.
such a sad image.

 

[Squiby]

A horror to think about a nice wooden VONG that looses the tip while heating.
such a sad image.

I think that you may be exaggerating the wear and tear we can expect. My wood bodies and stems are over a year old, some are two years old. I don't pop the tips on and off everyday but they do get removed and replaced regularly. I'm not rough with them. I always lubricate the orings and I insert the tip with a gentle but deliberate turn and push motion. Never rock or wiggle the tip out. In two years I have not had a wood midsection fail on me. I'm not saying it won't happen but I also don't think that they are delicate with normal use.

Fresh orings can make a huge difference and may tighten up your fit a bit.

 

[Boden]

This one in A2 Steel is my favorite so far. Once it gets warmed up... Boo ya

The bluing is from a heat test I did on it. Wanted to see how heat traveled down the tip. Geometry works perfectly.

I think the stem is mahogany. Friend who makes acoustic guitars gave me a bunch of scrap.

 

[hinglemccringleberry]

We talked about this a few (probably many) pages back and one of our wood guys, @Winegums I think, agreed that increasing the frequency of tip removal from wooden parts likely will lead to some weakness in the connection over time. If you want to carry multiple tips and/or have OCD (literally or figuratively) and clean your VC very often, you may be better off with a TI or Steel VC rather than a wood one. View your HT orings as consumables and there is no downside to swapping tips in a metal stem. As we have seen they can be gotten cheaply in larger quantities.
As a data point, my Nonavong connection and my Woody connection have NOT gotten noticeably looser yet and I'm sure I have cleaned/separated both more than a dozen times. The Woody is probably a couple years old now.

I remove my tip (4th gen) from my cocobolo stem (double crown) multiple times a week for cleaning and filter changing and have been doing so for 1 year now. So far so good, theres no damage. Removing the tip a few times on day 1 of ownership may have loosened it a bit, but ever since then the fitting hasnt changed at all in 12 months; its remarkable how well engineered it is. The inside of the stem at the contact point shows no wear, the rings have no cracks. theres nothing that sticks out as being of concern right now. That said, Im still going to get a carbon fiber stem and O-ring kit in the future. Im almost more scared to put a different stem on it than I am to just leave it be. At this rate, the device right out of the box will last me a lifetime before I even need to change parts on it : p

 

[mucsusn]

Take you pick @Mr.Sifter it’s either atrophy or entropy.....use ‘em while you got’em

 

[stark1]

Use it, or lose it said the goose to the gander.

In our case it’s use it, & loose it? More O-rings, please.



@Boden, no O-rings (yet), for that snug-as-a-bug fit? On your XXL tip?



@Mr.Sifter , if you choose not to put your wooden stem/body over a hot teapot, use a cigar humidor; or try a thicker (red) O-ring.

You might also try a thin wooden insert.

The ultimate solution would be to have a dedicated ‘Cap, to maintain its integrity.....

 

[phattpiggie]

Just to offer a little on the O rings thing.
Unless your stem is really worn you will struggle to get a larger O ring to work.
The grooves are a set width and thicker rings will not seat properly.
Take a piece of cotton and wrap it around the bottom of the groove before putting the O ring in place, how many wraps depends on the amount of wear.
Once or twice should be enough.

Wood porn on a Sunday.
Bocote porn to be a little more precise.

Sold

 

[Winegums]

@phattpiggie that’s the way I was tightening up the fitment on my pieces before they were retired. It works like a charm and is worth remembering if you ever need to stop a leak in a pinch.

 

[Boden]

Use it, or lose it said the goose to the gander.

In our case it’s use it, & loose it? More O-rings, please.



@Boden, no O-rings (yet), for that snug-as-a-bug fit? On your XXL tip?



@Mr.Sifter , if you choose not to put your wooden stem/body over a hot teapot, use a cigar humidor; or try a thicker (red) O-ring.

You might also try a thin wooden insert.

The ultimate solution would be to have a dedicated ‘Cap, to maintain its integrity.....

O rings are unnecessary with the tolerance I’m cutting at. Plus if the wood cracks from contracting I’ll just make another.

Plus I don’t need the thermal isolation

 

[stark1]

On the speedway

“Your item departed our USPS facility in SPRINGFIELD MA NETWORK DISTRIBUTION CENTER on January 28, 2018 at 4:12 AM ”

Smokin’ Joe ^, the (s)mail jockey— oh, for the love of VapCaps (11.5 miles later)! It’s Monday!

 

[Mr.Sifter]

BEAUTIFUL! STUNNING!! AWESOME!!!

what is your favourite OMNI titanium design ?
I like this "old one" with the coil+wire design

 

[cybrguy]

It was the multifaceted TI Omni that finally got me to pull the trigger on the Omni. I really love the design...

I considered just buying the stem and making it a UniXL, but I wanted to try out the tech as I wondered about it from the beginning, so I just went for it.

 

[Mr.Sifter]

Do you like the "omni tech" ?

this newer titanium body looks veeeeery grippy.

true ?

 

[asdf420]

As far as I know, grippiness, spinning mouthpieces and length don't fucking matter at all with an induction heater! Git one!

Oh wait, that's right. The carb.. I mean, if you see it when you put it on the IH... maybe in low light..
and a longer condenser means cooler vapor?

 

[cybrguy]

Do you like the "omni tech" ?

this newer titanium body looks veeeeery grippy.

true ?

I DO like it. I particularly like the ability to hand it to someone unfamiliar with it, loaded and hot, and have them more easily get a good hit right away. And I DO like the grippyness of it too. I think it feels great in my hand.

That being said, I very much like my other VCs as well. I don't think the Omni tech is "necessary", but I do think it is nice and may be easier for some.