Dynavap VapCap

[coolbreeze]

Thanks, maybe that particular tip is not for me then, I guess it will be getting sold. I've tried it with a single flame as well but that just prolongs the heating cycle even further. In retrospect wish I'd tried swapping the tips over to try the old one on the mvs before I had to stop vaping temporarily. I don't think I've seen the best of the mvs but I got very comfortable using my shomni everyday. Ah well, such is life...

Good chance the older Ti tip will work better for you. The Omni tip collects a lot of heat and shunts it off into the body; I'm not sure if this is expected to work as a thermal battery, or if it's just the side effect of heating the extra mass. In the Omni, the body is built for this, as is the Vong. However, they make the other stems really hot, including my Vortex. I don't use them in wooden stems for this reason. I tend not to use them in my older Shomnis because they're so short and they heat right up. They work better in the XLs. I would expect to have similar issues with the Vong tip, but it does heat differently so ymmv. The Omni works really nicely in the Vong or Vong i, taming its carbonesque nature and bringing flavor with big rips.

The Omni '21 tips are fantastic for flavor, and they can be used with other stems with care. They do take a lot of slow, building heat, and a triple torch is almost certainly going to be too fast for it, unless it's turned way down and held at a distance.

So, try the Omni '21 tip at a nice, slow heating, with the MVS probably handling the heat a little better or maybe a nice, cheap, longer glass cooling stem for leisurely flavor extraction. When you're ready for quick action, use the standard Ti tip. Hope this helps!

 

[skimfatpersonnel]

Good chance the older Ti tip will work better for you. The Omni tip collects a lot of heat and shunts it off into the body; I'm not sure if this is expected to work as a thermal battery, or if it's just the side effect of heating the extra mass. In the Omni, the body is built for this, as is the Vong. However, they make the other stems really hot, including my Vortex. I don't use them in wooden stems for this reason. I tend not to use them in my older Shomnis because they're so short and they heat right up. They work better in the XLs. I would expect to have similar issues with the Vong tip, but it does heat differently so ymmv. The Omni works really nicely in the Vong or Vong i, taming its carbonesque nature and bringing flavor with big rips.

The Omni '21 tips are fantastic for flavor, and they can be used with other stems with care. They do take a lot of slow, building heat, and a triple torch is almost certainly going to be too fast for it, unless it's turned way down and held at a distance.

So, try the Omni '21 tip at a nice, slow heating, with the MVS probably handling the heat a little better or maybe a nice, cheap, longer glass cooling stem for leisurely flavor extraction. When you're ready for quick action, use the standard Ti tip. Hope this helps!

Thanks for this, really appreciated. Quite glad it's not just a defective item and has quirks which differentiate it from the older tips which I do like a lot. There is such a broad range of products in the dynavap world, it can be a bit of a minefield selecting the right parts for you. Glad to have this information now though. I have to give everything a clean and put them away for a month so I can pass a upcoming drug test but on the basis of advice given I'll do as you suggest and persist with a single flame and the the MVS and see if I can grow to like it. I'll likely buy a SS tip and see how that goes too. I really need to get a set up that suits me and I have confidence in.

 

[coolbreeze]

I'll likely buy a SS tip and see how that goes too. I really need to get a set up that suits me and I have confidence in.

Not a bad idea. I really like the M tips and they're fairly easy to use with decent flavor and the capacity for hotter. larger bong rips. In any case, the journey is half the fun!

 

[skimfatpersonnel]

Ha! You're right of course, and all this makes it very, very interesting. There are products and methods I could only dream about when I was a young buck. Kinda glad I'm an adult now so I have the resources to fund it all though. Long may the innovations continue.

 

[coolbreeze]

Ha! You're right of course, and all this makes it very, very interesting. There are products and methods I could only dream about when I was a young buck. Kinda glad I'm an adult now so I have the resources to fund it all though. Long may the innovations continue.

I hear that. I sometimes regret the time spent combusting v. vaping when I look at how simple and straightforward some of these devices are (Bricks, etc) and think, boy, we coulda had these all along, and enjoyed the flavors of flowers and not burnt rope. Not to mention the cleaner high, the efficiency, and the nice little ritual factors that make them such a pleasure. And especially, the reduced wear and tear.

Oh, well, here we are now at this really great place and it's nice to think that others will know only this bliss!

 

[Demonic chronic]

I get the best results with a single flame, it’s like a laser, pin point accuracy. I tried a triple flame but couldn’t get the results I could get with a good old single.

 

[skimfatpersonnel]

True. I use a fraction of the herb I used to with combustion. I had tried the Storz & Bickel Mighty a number of years ago and couldn't get with it. I was truly shocked how good at how good I found the Omni. It really rocked my world. I haven't had any tobacco in two years and my lungs are truly grateful. I'm also grateful for all of the clever people who are creating these much better methods of consumption.

 

[coolbreeze]

I get the best results with a single flame, it’s like a laser, pin point accuracy. I tried a triple flame but couldn’t get the results I could get with a good old single.

Same here. When the wind makes me bust out a 2 or 3 flame it's always a little nerve-wracking.

I was truly shocked how good at how good I found the Omni.

They really are such nice vapes, all of them. They deserve their flagship status. I have to consciously rotate through mine or else I get hung up enjoying one so much I'll never get to the others!

 

[skimfatpersonnel]

I get the best results with a single flame, it’s like a laser, pin point accuracy. I tried a triple flame but couldn’t get the results I could get with a good old single.

I have time for both. I only recently purchased a single flame and I'm still getting used to the difference between the two. It does take time to heat but patience is a virtue and I can say though that after using the single flame, the triple can feel like overkill on the cap. I usually have the triple turned right down. I'll probably scout out a double flame to compare at some point.

 

[fogbank]

Oh also you have cheap crap ones like the UFO, that are more than a little finicky at times and either combust your load or undercook it.

This may depend on how you like to use your VC. For my usage model the UFO works perfectly. I take consecutive hits with one hit immediately following the cool-down click from the hit before. I have dialed in my technique for both SS and Ti tips, including a pre-heat cycle with the SS tips. I know how many seconds to heat after the click. The UFO flashes every second while heating so it's easy to count the seconds. The results are very consistent.

So I wouldn't discount all of the "cheap crap" induction heaters at once. Even the Black Shadow worked well for me after I dialed it in.

That being said I will probably get a Wand soon, if for no other reason than to experiment with the Anvil.

 

[HyDrOpOnIc1987]

I posted this question elsewhere, but since it does relate to DV, I'll ask here as well:

Where and what are some good affordable (also ability to be sourced in Canada) torch lighters for use with DV? I have a cheapo honest single flame, but its taking a while to get up to temp. Was wondering if there are affordable options to ramp that up a little, but to not lose too much accuracy in where the tip of the flame can go. Maybe a slightly larger single torch flame? Or a dual? But more jets is less accurate...

Any help would be appreciated. Was considering this: (if im not allowed to link to it, i appologize! Still getting used to the rules here. Last thing i want to do is rock the boat and piss off my new homies! lol)

$7.65 HONEST BC450-1 Zinc Alloy Windproof Butane Gas Lighter - fire fixed lock design / flame adjustable at FastTech - Free Shipping

Probably the best deal for a HONEST BC450-1 Zinc Alloy Windproof Butane Gas Lighter fire fixed lock design / flame adjustable USD 7.65 as of 7/28/2022 - Free shipping worldwide on all orders. Prices unbelievably cheap.

www.fasttech.com

Thats a dual i believe but there are singles too in similar design. Because its fasttech, itd take forever for it to get here. But its cheap lol i found the same one on amazon for double the price, but i get it much sooner. Would something like this even be feasible?

Tthanks so much for the help. Dry herb vaping is still VERY new to me. Especially the DV! I definitely love how hard this little tube of metal can hit. And i love how little material i used yesterday. I even went crazy with my consumption but used less than i had been using with the Air 2 daily lmao I'm blown away and so VERY very appreciative for the kindness @Bad Dog showed me! I just hope that someday i can repay the favour, or pay it forward!

 

[coolbreeze]

This may depend on how you like to use your VC. For my usage model the UFO works perfectly. I take consecutive hits with one hit immediately following the cool-down click from the hit before. I have dialed in my technique for both SS and Ti tips, including a pre-heat cycle with the SS tips. I know how many seconds to heat after the click. The UFO flashes every seconds while heating so it's easy to count the seconds. The results are very consistent.

So I wouldn't discount all of the "cheap crap" induction heaters at once. Even the Black Shadow worked well for me after I dialed it in.

That being said I will probably get a Wand soon, if for no other reason than to experiment with the Anvil.

Good example of technique mitigating shortfalls, and, turning quirks to your advantage. It's the flexibility of an unregulated, technique-oriented device. That said, the Wand requires, like, no technique at all if you get the insert. It's a great device for helping n00bs settle in, and then as they hear us prattle on about torches and so forth, they'll maybe get curious, try one, fall in love again. Many other heaters are technique-reliant enough that it frustrates new users and turns them off, like torch issues do.

Upshot here, though, is that playing round can lead to excellent results even when the device is 'flawed' in terms of straightforward use.

 

[TommyDee]

Anyone try heating the tip with the torch prior to loading it? That should quicken the heat-up time for single flame torches.

 

[coolbreeze]

I posted this question elsewhere, but since it does relate to DV, I'll ask here as well:

Where and what are some good affordable (also ability to be sourced in Canada) torch lighters for use with DV? I have a cheapo honest single flame, but its taking a while to get up to temp. Was wondering if there are affordable options to ramp that up a little, but to not lose too much accuracy in where the tip of the flame can go. Maybe a slightly larger single torch flame? Or a dual? But more jets is less accurate...

Any help would be appreciated. Was considering this: (if im not allowed to link to it, i appologize! Still getting used to the rules here. Last thing i want to do is rock the boat and piss off my new homies! lol)

$7.65 HONEST BC450-1 Zinc Alloy Windproof Butane Gas Lighter - fire fixed lock design / flame adjustable at FastTech - Free Shipping

Probably the best deal for a HONEST BC450-1 Zinc Alloy Windproof Butane Gas Lighter fire fixed lock design / flame adjustable USD 7.65 as of 7/28/2022 - Free shipping worldwide on all orders. Prices unbelievably cheap.

www.fasttech.com

Thats a dual i believe but there are singles too in similar design. Because its fasttech, itd take forever for it to get here. But its cheap lol i found the same one on amazon for double the price, but i get it much sooner. Would something like this even be feasible?

Tthanks so much for the help. Dry herb vaping is still VERY new to me. Especially the DV! I definitely love how hard this little tube of metal can hit. And i love how little material i used yesterday. I even went crazy with my consumption but used less than i had been using with the Air 2 daily lmao I'm blown away and so VERY very appreciative for the kindness @Bad Dog showed me! I just hope that someday i can repay the favour, or pay it forward!

That's probably a pretty hot torch and while it will work, it may heat too fast, leading to the problems others have mentioned with the newer, massive bowls. Try it out and if you have problems, just turn it down and/or pull further away. With technique it will work, perhaps even very well. The important factor will be heating speed. Slow down if necessary.

Also, that should work nicely with an Anvil or Brick. But far be it for me to foretell your future. ; )

 

[Demonic chronic]

Anyone try heating the tip with the torch prior to loading it? That should quicken the heat-up time for single flame torches.

That’s the thing, with a torch you don’t wanna heat it quick, nice and slowly does it. I heat as low on the cap as I can when vaping thru water (old standard cap) and it’ll take a wee bit longer, well worth the wait in my opinion. When using my omnis and their low temp caps I heat them in the middle of the cap tho.

 

[endof3d]

I posted this question elsewhere, but since it does relate to DV, I'll ask here as well:

Where and what are some good affordable (also ability to be sourced in Canada) torch lighters for use with DV? I have a cheapo honest single flame, but its taking a while to get up to temp. Was wondering if there are affordable options to ramp that up a little, but to not lose too much accuracy in where the tip of the flame can go. Maybe a slightly larger single torch flame? Or a dual? But more jets is less accurate...

Any help would be appreciated. Was considering this: (if im not allowed to link to it, i appologize! Still getting used to the rules here. Last thing i want to do is rock the boat and piss off my new homies! lol)

$7.65 HONEST BC450-1 Zinc Alloy Windproof Butane Gas Lighter - fire fixed lock design / flame adjustable at FastTech - Free Shipping

Probably the best deal for a HONEST BC450-1 Zinc Alloy Windproof Butane Gas Lighter fire fixed lock design / flame adjustable USD 7.65 as of 7/28/2022 - Free shipping worldwide on all orders. Prices unbelievably cheap.

www.fasttech.com

Thats a dual i believe but there are singles too in similar design. Because its fasttech, itd take forever for it to get here. But its cheap lol i found the same one on amazon for double the price, but i get it much sooner. Would something like this even be feasible?

Tthanks so much for the help. Dry herb vaping is still VERY new to me. Especially the DV! I definitely love how hard this little tube of metal can hit. And i love how little material i used yesterday. I even went crazy with my consumption but used less than i had been using with the Air 2 daily lmao I'm blown away and so VERY very appreciative for the kindness @Bad Dog showed me! I just hope that someday i can repay the favour, or pay it forward!

Ordered that Honest torch for the Anvil that arrived yesterday, but hasn't arrived yet. My first thought would be that it might be a bit too powerful for the DV unless used outside. There is something to be said for a dialled in, slow heating method for a thick, rich extraction. Lots of opportunities for experimenting with all the flower your saving.

Edit: @Demonic chronic great minds and all.

 

[HyDrOpOnIc1987]

That’s the thing, with a torch you don’t wanna heat it quick, nice and slowly does it. I heat as low on the cap as I can when vaping thru water and it’ll take a wee bit longer, well worth the wait in my opinion.

Ok, well, what i need then is a torch that fits my hand better. I could deal with this little one better if it heated up quicker, but if not then bigger sized for my hand is something i should look into then. Im good with how long it takes, its just not comfy in my hand for that long and im always scared my grip will slip and the thing will launch across the room burning who knows what, or just burning my hand when i inevitably try and catch the thing in the air lmao

I'll rephrase then, are there any decent affordable options for single torch lighters in canada that can comfortably fot in a med/large-large hand? This little honest torch is gunna get me burnt lol glad i have it though lol

 

[coolbreeze]

I'll rephrase then, are there any decent affordable options for single torch lighters in canada that can comfortably fot in a med/large-large hand?

Large Eagle torch if the Honest is too small, Scorch Torch Matador Single Jet if the button is too tiring. The Eagle is a go-to for me, and the scorch is a little softer, so worse for breezy conditions, good for Bricks fwiw.

 

[Demonic chronic]

Ok, well, what i need then is a torch that fits my hand better. I could deal with this little one better if it heated up quicker, but if not then bigger sized for my hand is something i should look into then. Im good with how long it takes, its just not comfy in my hand for that long and im always scared my grip will slip and the thing will launch across the room burning who knows what, or just burning my hand when i inevitably try and catch the thing in the air lmao

I'll rephrase then, are there any decent affordable options for single torch lighters in canada that can comfortably fot in a med/large-large hand? This little honest torch is gunna get me burnt lol glad i have it though lol

I use the big one for home use and the smaller one for out and about. And for back up a little aomai torch. Edit-got these cheap from eBay and have proven reliable and each one was £10 or less, I’m very fussy with torches, getting a good one is hard but when you find the one you’ll know it. The big torch is older than most of my Dynavaps . Edit-updated pic with the oldest reliable big torch I was talking about, the pic I had before was the same torch but newer and a spare. This one’s been my daily for years and it’s been through some shit

 

[Planck]

there any decent affordable options for single torch lighters in canada that can comfortably fot in a med/large-large hand?

I've used the Blazer Firefox since 2017. It's great imo, not the cheapest but probably the best.
Made in Japan by the company the invented the torch lighter.

 

[fogbank]

Good example of technique mitigating shortfalls, and, turning quirks to your advantage. It's the flexibility of an unregulated, technique-oriented device. That said, the Wand requires, like, no technique at all if you get the insert.

Exactly. The main shortfall of the cheap heaters is their lack of adjustability. The original UFO came with glass tubes of varying thickness, and one with no bottom that was intended to be used with the silicone spacers. I don't think those options were very useful.

So the technique needed to be adjusted to the heater, not the other way around. A heater that adjusts to the user's desired technique is preferable.

Thanks...I'm off to shop for a wand.

 

[Demonic chronic]

Exactly. The main shortfall of the cheap heaters is their lack of adjustability. The original UFO came with glass tubes of varying thickness, and one with no bottom that was intended to be used with the silicone spacers. I don't think those options were very useful.

So the technique needed to be adjusted to the heater, not the other way around. A heater that adjusts to the user's desired technique is preferable.

Thanks...I'm off to shop for a wand.

I got a pipes caldron I don’t get on with (may sell if there’s interest maybe, never use it, well I use the magnet) , it’s way to tame even with my old late clicker cap with respecting the last late click, takes over 4 bong hits to clear a bowl very wispy Vapor, not for me, funny thing is if i do the same, heat with a torch low down respect to the second click I get big fat white bong rips from the first hit, clears a bong in 2 bowls alway reliably, I’ve mentioned it before but I swear I get higher with a torch, Sold my portside mini cause it was even tamer. I’ve only ever tried pipes IH’s, but don’t think I’ll ever buy another IH as long as I live. Anyways didn’t Jim Morrison say come on baby light my fire. To each their own

 

[WoodVillain]

Been a while since I stopped by, nice to see even years later the caps are still dominating the group. I figured by now there would be way more options that could compete in the portable, unbreakable, electricity free, vape category...

Wish I still had my old model omni, like 2-3 generations back, the newer ones don't look as nice to me.. but I really prefer titanium so looks like it's my only "quick" option... Or wait on custom... That takes too long...

 

[Demonic chronic]

Been a while since I stopped by, nice to see even years later the caps are still dominating the group. I figured by now there would be way more options that could compete in the portable, unbreakable, electricity free, vape category...

Wish I still had my old model omni, like 2-3 generations back, the newer ones don't look as nice to me.. but I really prefer titanium so looks like it's my only "quick" option... Or wait on custom... That takes too long...

Plus+ 1 I also prefer ti. Never had an older omni just the 21 and the generation before that, also got an oldish omnivong (I think) and the ti 22 vong (i), I’ll admit I’d also like some of the older omnis, something about them, their like classic cars, bet they perform good also.

 

[My_50p_worth]

This may depend on how you like to use your VC. For my usage model the UFO works perfectly. I take consecutive hits with one hit immediately following the cool-down click from the hit before. I have dialed in my technique for both SS and Ti tips, including a pre-heat cycle with the SS tips. I know how many seconds to heat after the click. The UFO flashes every second while heating so it's easy to count the seconds. The results are very consistent.

So I wouldn't discount all of the "cheap crap" induction heaters at once. Even the Black Shadow worked well for me after I dialed it in.

That being said I will probably get a Wand soon, if for no other reason than to experiment with the Anvil.

Oh totally, my UFO for example I got a technique going in the end. I still stand by my “cheap crap” comment though, it’s just cheap crap both me and yourself are experienced enough to make work. Many others are not though

If I used a new cap and pulsed two seconds at a time I would get perfect consistent results - although at that point it’s not that much less hassle than a torch.

I found that I much prefer one I can just sit the VC in and wait for the click.

Hope you enjoy the wand by the way man, it’s a great purchase IMO. I really like mine and have found the versatility of it to be its biggest strength - in theory you could heat a 5 fin, then a 20m, then a tandem, and then an Anvil without missing a beat. The swappable 18650’s make it great for camping trips and the like too

@Demonic chronic I have both of the EXACT same torches as you! A man of great taste I see That first one with the black fuel tank just keeps going and going, I get 3 days of heavy use easy. My local head shop sells them for £4 with different wraps on them and they’re a big favourite with the DV guys and gals

They’re made by a brand called Prof if anyone else wants one - they also make one with a Swiss Army knife attached which is a bit different