Dynavap VapCap

[invertedisdead]

I've refrained from posting this but figure maybe someone had some advice, I'm certainly not a dynavap expert so I'm reaching out: I was pretty disappointed to see the 2020M I gifted someone for their birthday delegated to the side drawer before the evening was over, smoke bongs burning.

To be fair, I should have known better as this person has been averse to many great vaporizers, but I figured if so many people are able to convert with the Dynavap that I would try it out. I actually gifted this person a glass OG vapcap back in the day which was too involved for them, but thought perhaps with all the improvements in the lineup the outcome might change.

It does seem like you have to heat pretty considerably past the click to get much vapor, that makes it hard for me to urge the "respect the click" sentiment when the click just isn't really doing it. Is there any possibility that this was a dud cap? It fell right off the vapcap a few times until I pinched the sides in a bit. I've tried whole nug, coarse grind, fine grind, heating high, heating low, airport open/closed/half closed, slow draw, fast draw, single/double/triple jets, Aomai's, Eagle's, etc. - pretty much everything short of an induction heater.

Is this just the reality of the SS versus the Ti tip? I can get the vape to milk hard, but only heating way past the click, and then it's really pushing it, bordering on too much roastage. Your input is appreciated!

 

[someTooL]

Ordering a Ed's TNT and talking with phatphiggie now

Thanks guys

since you’re at Ed’s... highly recommend a 14mm glass WPA. Not only for a rig but fits nicely into a Sherlock/j-hook. Nice seeing that vapor move through the glass.

 

[shopdognyc]

I've refrained from posting this but figure maybe someone had some advice, I'm certainly not a dynavap expert so I'm reaching out: I was pretty disappointed to see the 2020M I gifted someone for their birthday delegated to the side drawer before the evening was over, smoke bongs burning.

To be fair, I should have known better as this person has been averse to many great vaporizers, but I figured if so many people are able to convert with the Dynavap that I would try it out. I actually gifted this person a glass OG vapcap back in the day which was too involved for them, but thought perhaps with all the improvements in the lineup the outcome might change.

It does seem like you have to heat pretty considerably past the click to get much vapor, that makes it hard for me to urge the "respect the click" sentiment when the click just isn't really doing it. Is there any possibility that this was a dud cap? It fell right off the vapcap a few times until I pinched the sides in a bit. I've tried whole nug, coarse grind, fine grind, heating high, heating low, airport open/closed/half closed, slow draw, fast draw, single/double/triple jets, Aomai's, Eagle's, etc. - pretty much everything short of an induction heater.

Is this just the reality of the SS versus the Ti tip? I can get the vape to milk hard, but only heating way past the click, and then it's really pushing it, bordering on too much roastage. Your input is appreciated!

I'll say I struggled with this myself. This is my solution, or how I understand my 2020 M.

The first hit doesn't get a lot of vapor. I use a flame and start towards the opening of the cap and move towards the clicker, with each successive torch. I think of the first as the prep. I draw lightly, or sometimes I skip. I put it on my magnet and wait for the second click. Once I get the reset, I torch it again. At this point, I start getting some decent vapor. Once I finish a draw or two, I wait for the reset click.

I've tried going past the click. Sometimes it works, sometimes I combust. I think my discovered way with some patience makes for some amazing clouds.

I really hope that helps. I discovered this using an Induction Heater. I don't think its required, but it does help with the process.

@someTooL thanks for the tip. Do you get tips for all of your pieces or just swap them out?

Titanium Tip vs Stainless Steel - I feel the heat stay on the tip longer with the SS. I think I get the click faster with the TT. I had a SS on my BB9 and it was great. I needed to learn a bit of patience for the routine I was looking for.

 

[someTooL]

@shopdognyc I TRY to setup each piece with its own. That way I know exactly how that particular piece will work. Ie. I have a SS tip cap/combo that I KNOW not to take it even close past the click. Once I get a setup I like it normally stay that way

 

[shopdognyc]

@shopdognyc I TRY to setup each piece with its own. That way I know exactly how that particular piece will work. Ie. I have a SS tip cap/combo that I KNOW not to take it even close past the click. Once I get a setup I like it normally stay that way

Part of me hoped that you swapped out, but now I know what I have to do haha.

 

[Ripstar]

I think I am finally taking the plunge! I don't mind sheeling out the money but nothing overboard. I was thinking starting with the omni XL but am wondering if I should just do the OmniVong Hydra XL. I probably won't use water pipes too much but would be a nice option.
Is that overboard and or the correct thinking?
is it best to order through site or a different one?

 

[TommyDee]

I've refrained from posting this but figure maybe someone had some advice, I'm certainly not a dynavap expert so I'm reaching out: I was pretty disappointed to see the 2020M I gifted someone for their birthday delegated to the side drawer before the evening was over, smoke bongs burning.

To be fair, I should have known better as this person has been averse to many great vaporizers, but I figured if so many people are able to convert with the Dynavap that I would try it out. I actually gifted this person a glass OG vapcap back in the day which was too involved for them, but thought perhaps with all the improvements in the lineup the outcome might change.

It does seem like you have to heat pretty considerably past the click to get much vapor, that makes it hard for me to urge the "respect the click" sentiment when the click just isn't really doing it. Is there any possibility that this was a dud cap? It fell right off the vapcap a few times until I pinched the sides in a bit. I've tried whole nug, coarse grind, fine grind, heating high, heating low, airport open/closed/half closed, slow draw, fast draw, single/double/triple jets, Aomai's, Eagle's, etc. - pretty much everything short of an induction heater.

Is this just the reality of the SS versus the Ti tip? I can get the vape to milk hard, but only heating way past the click, and then it's really pushing it, bordering on too much roastage. Your input is appreciated!

From a bong guy who loved the taste of the Launch Box, I can tell you one thing, if you can't make your buddy cough, he'll never adapt. I've been chasing that Sasquatch since a year ago and I can honestly say I've caught it! Not the cleanest but I can hurt my lungs with a VC and that is saying something. And I am also here to say I cannot, and moreover - won't ...do it with a '20 tip or cap. Both suck in my book of hard hits. My '20 cap is made of thinner material - don't know if that is the norm for all captive caps or not, I just know the SS-mass of my '20 cap is 12% less and I know the '20 tip sucks for taking on heat as witnessed by the significantly lower magnetic coupling on the IH, meaning it takes in less energy. In my humble opinion, I blame the massive heat sinks that are passing as cooling fins. They are -very- functional as heat mass rather than 'cooling surface area'. I'm sorry I have to say these things because I love the VC and I medicate with it daily and not just a little bit. It took a lot for me to like the '18 t&c and even longer to even give the '19 a chance, which it passed in spades. My '20-M, from this very demanding user, is free to the first person at my door that I know doesn't have the lungs for a real hit. The '20-M is just not the device that will inspire a heavy user to drop combustion.

 

[FunnyFaceBK]

Hey everyone, new member, I’m really loving Dynavap and I’ve got a nice growing collection. I exclusively use a single flame torch. Still haven’t decided if a IH is worth the investment. What would be the most practical one to start with? I haven’t been impressed with what I’ve seen of the Apollo.

 

[thunderstealer1337]

the 2020m was the device that made me swap from combusting for past 20+ years and have gone dynavap/elev8r only meow

and yes I had a volcano like 20 years ago way early 2000's......

so not everything you read on interwebz is true, did dynavap slow my consumption down.... not really maybe for first day when I realized that I needed a 2nd 2020m cuz I couldnt wait for the cap to cool off. I am still close to 1/8th a day and more on weekends.

The '20-M is just not the device that will inspire a heavy user to drop combustion.

 

[Jill NYC]

@invertedisdead - It is very rare that the problem is a defective cap. For some people (me) it takes a while to get technique down. Have you read through this (short) thread yet? A lot of good advice.

Am I doing something wrong with my Dynavap? I get very weak vapor not as thick as everyone claims

I just got my Dynavap M19 in the mail 2 days ago and was very excited to try it out. I tried it out and I just can't seem to get the clouds everyone claims to be getting from the Dynavap M19. I am following a technique of pre-heating and then heating up again. Vapor not cloudy and milky as I...

fuckcombustion.com

 

[thunderstealer1337]

where are you heating the cap at? and can you post pics of your 2020m tip?

@TommyDee you need to put a sticky or something, i jsut found the ddave screen mod from your reddit post, fml i have gotten stuff from ddave site and never even seen this for sale

 

[TommyDee]

I've noticed that about the ddave site before. I snagged it on a google search 'dynavap screen'.

And if you love the '20 have I got a treat for you! Congrats on an 1/8th a day in a CV and the '20 no less. That takes effort, I know.

 

[invertedisdead]

The first hit doesn't get a lot of vapor. I use a flame and start towards the opening of the cap and move towards the clicker, with each successive torch. I think of the first as the prep. I draw lightly, or sometimes I skip. I put it on my magnet and wait for the second click. Once I get the reset, I torch it again. At this point, I start getting some decent vapor. Once I finish a draw or two, I wait for the reset click.

That's exactly what I notice, they get a real low output first draw, even if heated low on the cap with a single jet - since this takes even more time than using a larger lighter, it just makes them feel the vape isn't working/being finicky, and they revert to a smoke bong!

From a bong guy who loved the taste of the Launch Box, I can tell you one thing, if you can't make your buddy cough, he'll never adapt. I've been chasing that Sasquatch since a year ago and I can honestly say I've caught it! Not the cleanest but I can hurt my lungs with a VC and that is saying something. And I am also here to say I cannot, and moreover - won't ...do it with a '20 tip or cap. Both suck in my book of hard hits. My '20 cap is made of thinner material - don't know if that is the norm for all captive caps or not, I just know the SS-mass of my '20 cap is 12% less and I know the '20 tip sucks for taking on heat as witnessed by the significantly lower magnetic coupling on the IH, meaning it takes in less energy. In my humble opinion, I blame the massive heat sinks that are passing as cooling fins. They are -very- functional as heat mass rather than 'cooling surface area'. I'm sorry I have to say these things because I love the VC and I medicate with it daily and not just a little bit. It took a lot for me to like the '18 t&c and even longer to even give the '19 a chance, which it passed in spades. My '20-M, from this very demanding user, is free to the first person at my door that I know doesn't have the lungs for a real hit. The '20-M is just not the device that will inspire a heavy user to drop combustion.

I'm not very dialed in on the differences from year to year, but your comment on the magnetic coupling differences is interesting. The fins do seem to hold a lot of heat compared to the unmachined OG glass vapcap. I'm just guessing that mass seems could be what prevents the bowl from reaching the temps required to produce much vapor on the initial heatup.

I had to search my old posts in this thread, I can't believe I was doodling on the glass 'vap back in 2016! Man time flies when you're already stoned! My old posts in this thread were buzzed out!

She's pretty low maintenance for being such a hot head.

@invertedisdead - It is very rare that the problem is a defective cap. For some people (me) it takes a while to get technique down. Have you read through this (short) thread yet? A lot of good advice.

Am I doing something wrong with my Dynavap? I get very weak vapor not as thick as everyone claims

I just got my Dynavap M19 in the mail 2 days ago and was very excited to try it out. I tried it out and I just can't seem to get the clouds everyone claims to be getting from the Dynavap M19. I am following a technique of pre-heating and then heating up again. Vapor not cloudy and milky as I...

fuckcombustion.com

I did read that thread recently but I'll load one and peruse through it again! I honestly feel like I'm heating it right (its like riding a bicycle isn't it? ) but maybe not! I'll keep chipping away at it as I've got the M on loan for now lol. 10mm taper is sweet, had to pull my 10mm mini tube out of the closet!

To be fair this person I got it for has tried Mighty's, Arizers, Volcano's, Grasshoppers, Flowerpots, etc so it's extremely possible they are just vapor-hopeless and only like the idea of vaping more than the process!

where are you heating the cap at? and can you post pics of your 2020m tip?

Usually on "N" with an Aomai single or an Eagle Dual, I can probably grab a pic.[/QUOTE]

 

[TommyDee]

Hey everyone, new member, I’m really loving Dynavap and I’ve got a nice growing collection. I exclusively use a single flame torch. Still haven’t decided if a IH is worth the investment. What would be the most practical one to start with? I haven’t been impressed with what I’ve seen of the Apollo.

Welcome to your new obsession. IH, just read up and get to know what you are looking for.

 

[Jill NYC]

To be fair this person I got it for has tried Mighty's, Arizers, Volcano's, Grasshoppers, Flowerpots, etc so it's extremely possible they are just vapor-hopeless and only like the idea of vaping more than the process!

It is hard enough to convert people to vaping over smoking, let alone something that needs to be “dialed-in.”
Some people like instant gratification, some like to work for it... and some like variety.
I‘ve always had a hard time getting people to embrace the DV - it is truly under appreciated in the mainstream world of cannabis. That’s why I love FC - preaching to the choir is so much easier!!

 

[GoldenBud]

the 2020m was the device that made me swap from combusting for past 20+ years and have gone dynavap/elev8r only meow

i brought m2020 for a friend, which asked me to replace him - i gave him my m2019 and i've got his m2020
it's easier for him to find the carb hole in m2019, and it's abit more "cloudy" - bigger hits. some another Dynafriend said that my cap is like "high temp cap"

i like the m2020 better. captive cap = abit more convection, abit more taste, and seems to be cloudy AF with a bubbler, or with Austyn method (works so well)

I've refrained from posting this but figure maybe someone had some advice, I'm certainly not a dynavap expert so I'm reaching out: I was pretty disappointed to see the 2020M I gifted someone for their birthday delegated to the side drawer before the evening was over, smoke bongs burning.

it never worked with my friends too. most of them. the solution for this in my opinion is to add some bubbler with the gift, some 10$ bubbler 10mm/14mm from DHGate, because some people won't convert to vaping because of the coughs, they may feel like they "won" the smoking coughs and won't jump in bed with a new kind of trouble for their lungs/throat ...
that's what im going to do next gift.... if DHGate shipments will arrive at time

 

[Ripstar]

Looks like most places are sold out of IH, does anyone have any recs for a place with any in stock?

 

[GoldenBud]

Looks like most places are sold out of IH, does anyone have any recs for a place with any in stock?

search for SJK Induction Heater in eBay or amazon
and the glass adapter in DDave's shop

 

[shopdognyc]

Comparing my 2019 and 2020, the 2019 is hea

Looks like most places are sold out of IH, does anyone have any recs for a place with any in stock?

Looks like PuffItUp and Planet of the Vapes still have the Dynatec Apollo 2. I would also reach out to @Pipes

 

[invisiblecomplications]

Hi guys and gals new to FC although not new to reading here on and off. Got a 19 kit and a Ti tip on the way.

Looking forward to getting on the vape train. Was a smoker back in the day then stopped completely, then went to tinctures and edibles but having really mixed results so I'm gonna give vaping a go simply cause well FC right...

Some great info in the thread from what I've read so far. I'm very tempted to shell out for an IH too even before I've tried the VC and torch

Any thoughts on getting an IH before I use the flame I can't be bothered to mess around to much, although I think I'll be tinkering with the VC from what I've been reading.

Down the rabbit hole I go!

 

[TommyDee]

Welcome to the fold @invisiblecomplications . You've probably gleaned my recommendation at some point but to be clear, my VC have never seen a torch and have no plan to. But, what can it hurt.

 

[invisiblecomplications]

Thanks for the welcome @TommyDee appreciate it. I've read that you're exclusively IH. I saw your flatpack and what not, in a thread that I haven't bookmarked cause I can't remember where the link was.

I'll be looking for something small portable for out and about and possibly something more robust for home.

I might even have a crack at a DIY I'm not to good with electronic stuff but looks relatively straight forward. Need to have read through some threads.

If I get to liking vaping I've got my eye on phattpiggie and maybe timerhead. They have some amazing stuff!

Well anything from FluxerHeaters is out 6 to 12 month waiting list

 

[TommyDee]

Its a huge universe this Dynaverse thingy. Electronics is only some math, common sense, and the ability not to throw solder at a connection and expect it to stick.

New thread
Old thread

Keep an eye out on Dynavap and Dynatech. They're bustin' at the seam with 2 new products set to release next month.

 

[invisiblecomplications]

Its a huge universe this Dynaverse thingy. Electronics is only some math, common sense, and the ability not to throw solder at a connection and expect it to stick.

New thread
Old thread

Keep an eye out on Dynavap and Dynatech. They're bustin' at the seam with 2 new products set to release next month.

Thanks for the links I've got some reading to do

 

[shopdognyc]

@invisiblecomplications many say building is significantly cheaper. @Pipes on here has two versions. I reached out to him about his plugged in version and I had it within a week. Not sure his inventory. The Caldron has a very small form factor and built solid. The Apollo 2 seems available some places, much bigger, but still on the small side.

Not sure what flame you have, but if you don't have a single torch, look for the Honest. Another option is looking for some bubblers or connectors to use your DV with any glassware you might have. Then enjoy!

My Dynastash has a magnet, but I got the Launchpad from Interplanetary Development. You could probably find a good magnet and build your own for cheap too.