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SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
how significant is the difference between SiC and Saphire?

I am really tempted to just jump into the all SiC setup... I fucking hate the slim series parts. Prices be damned.
I've not used the S-series base, only titanium, so I can only compare dish flavor; and of course, flavor differences are all subjective, we have different palates and taste buds so individual's experiences do vary...

For me personally, titanium to quartz was the biggest upgrade by a mile. Quartz to SiC perhaps a third or a quarter of that difference. SiC to sapphire was a similar improvement.
 

FlyingLow

Team NO SLEEP!
One of these days I am going to upgrade from the standard SiC setup.

For now, I find it difficult to beat the flavor and efficiency of a nice low temp, up-temp dab. A simple quick torch of the cap works wonders.
 

ensabbahnur

Hash Vacuum
One of these days I am going to upgrade from the standard SiC setup.

For now, I find it difficult to beat the flavor and efficiency of a nice low temp, up-temp dab. A simple quick torch of the cap works wonders.

You're up temping by just heating the cap? Thats Fn brilliant and Im kinda mad I never thought of it.

And remember that going from SIC to saph is like going from a mid 1980 Toyota 4x4 pickup (100% indestructible) to whatever that car in the mid to late 70s that had the rear mounted fuel tank that kept exploding every time someone tapped the bumper. (fragile and pretty much waiting to break)

But it does perform better so there is that.
 

titotito

Well-Known Member
The SIC dishes I have match the Nimbus as far as material. I have older SIC dishes that were using the old slurry and I heard on IG that they were using the same slurry as the old.

It's a matter of how hot it is getting to be blunt; even if I quickly move the flame around I create hot spots because I am heating up so much more mass. I have not noticed anything bad from it; I will change up my cleaning as I have the new S-Series Assembly showing up in a few days.

100$ for another Nimbus dish doesn't bother me that much as historically I have made my old sic dish last over a year torching every other day without issue. This is likely because 100$ won't hurt me much.


Don't get the Quartz Dabber from D-nail for 150$ as it's exceptionally easy to bump off while in use sending it flying.

they also feature a quartz cap without a handle (i.e. not as much to break) for what it's worth
 
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FlyingLow

Team NO SLEEP!
Yea, I uptemp with by heating the ti cap- it is so much more consistent than trying to chase temps with the PID settings. A brief 10s blast with my Blazer and it will RAISE the temp on the nail by only 2-4* over a long draw. It is perfect for me and very efficient in not leaving large puddles on the floor.

I am convinced I need to upgrade setups to sapphire, just so overwhelmed by all the options and what I might get. I am kinda over the slim base...
 

damm

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Yea, I uptemp with by heating the ti cap- it is so much more consistent than trying to chase temps with the PID settings. A brief 10s blast with my Blazer and it will RAISE the temp on the nail by only 2-4* over a long draw. It is perfect for me and very efficient in not leaving large puddles on the floor.

I am convinced I need to upgrade setups to sapphire, just so overwhelmed by all the options and what I might get. I am kinda over the slim base...

I don't have to heat up the quartz cap from https://d-nail.com/directional-caps/dome-cap/ and provided you don't take a super long dab (1 minute long) it isn't scorching like the titanium carb cap. Additionally you should upgrade to the 28mm barrel coil and being able to drop the controller 30-35f isn't bad.

Doubt you need Sapphire and I wouldn't touch the SiC Base it's just too dirty the tooling marks on it are bad.

Kinda sad but fadespacewas right about d-nail's sic being dirty. The tests I saw were only testing their SiC Base and the Peak Insert so maybe D-Nail got a bad batch.
 
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MonkeyDsavage

New Member
Hey I had a few questions about Dnail kit. https://d-nail.com/d-nail-1-4-digital-essential-oil-vaporizer/
Is it worth the money? That kit with Sic nimbus dish.

Also was thinking about only buying the nimbus dish and the ti-slim base and then buying a rdk 300.
Then buying a flat coil from 710coils 26mm flat coil or should get the coil from dnail. And would a 28mm barrel be better then a 26mm flat coil.

How good is the 1.4 digital controler from dnail.
 

ensabbahnur

Hash Vacuum
Hey I had a few questions about Dnail kit. https://d-nail.com/d-nail-1-4-digital-essential-oil-vaporizer/
Is it worth the money? That kit with Sic nimbus dish.



How good is the 1.4 digital controler from dnail.

Prefacing this as a huge dnail fan for a long long time and I am a super huge fan of the SIC Halo.


IMO 99% of dnail product is overpriced, they have been around for ever and they do/have brought out a lot of cool tech but $250 for a COMPLETELY BASIC controller is NOT OK, no promise of "it'll work for years" can justify <$75 in parts for that markup, I also dont feel that paying ~$300+ for a "smart controller" is worth it anymore either but thats another topic for another thread.

IMO the Nimbus and its accompanying kit is still in beta and NOT a final product. I'd/I'm waiting for the next revision of the entire setup before I pull that trigger.

Unless youre set on the Nimbus, Id take the ~$500 you were going to drop on that setup, put $275 of it back in your pocket and pick up an Auber 200 from Auber and banger, gems and coil from 710 coils. This setup will certainly treat you well and will keep you heavily medicated until dnail dials in their Nimbus setup.
 

MonkeyDsavage

New Member
Prefacing this as a huge dnail fan for a long long time and I am a super huge fan of the SIC Halo.


IMO 99% of dnail product is overpriced, they have been around for ever and they do/have brought out a lot of cool tech but $250 for a COMPLETELY BASIC controller is NOT OK, no promise of "it'll work for years" can justify <$75 in parts for that markup, I also dont feel that paying ~$300+ for a "smart controller" is worth it anymore either but thats another topic for another thread.

IMO the Nimbus and its accompanying kit is still in beta and NOT a final product. I'd/I'm waiting for the next revision of the entire setup before I pull that trigger.

Unless youre set on the Nimbus, Id take the ~$500 you were going to drop on that setup, put $275 of it back in your pocket and pick up an Auber 200 from Auber and banger, gems and coil from 710 coils. This setup will certainly treat you well and will keep you heavily medicated until dnail dials in their Nimbus setup.

Thanks for good info it helped. I will take it all in consideration.
Probably just get the ti- slim and SiC nimbus or halo, Rdk 300.

What works better with the nimbus/halo flat coil 26mm or barrel 28mm.
 
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damm

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Hey I had a few questions about Dnail kit. https://d-nail.com/d-nail-1-4-digital-essential-oil-vaporizer/
Is it worth the money? That kit with Sic nimbus dish.

Also was thinking about only buying the nimbus dish and the ti-slim base and then buying a rdk 300.
Then buying a flat coil from 710coils 26mm flat coil or should get the coil from dnail. And would a 28mm barrel be better then a 26mm flat coil.

How good is the 1.4 digital controler from dnail.

No it's not worth the money. that is way overpriced. Build your own kit if you must.

If you want a Nimbus; start with the regular Nimbus with a slim base that will run you 195$ then another 100$ for the Mini Digital Controller (beta) that puts you up to 295 then I would drop 150 for the Quartz Dabber. That runs 445$ and you get a Quartz Dabber vs the ugh Titanium Dab Cab. That should come with a Flat coil but I would actually upgrade to the 28mm Barrel Coil if I was you.

It will bump it to 505$ before taxes or shipping

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Excuse me while I say this... Gosh Darn this is a whole lot of money and the box it comes in is too small for this $$. Sure I've spent 400$ for ipads I just don't feel it's really worth it? Let alone the dusty sic products because D-Nail is buying cheap sic.
 
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invertedisdead

Weapons of VAS Destruction
I keep eyeing this bitchin little 16mm setup...
Reminds me of the little nails we used to use back in the day with the male joints and glass domes. When dabs were still dabs :D

Seems like the perfect lightweight enail setup for the flavor saver rigs, my favorite 10mm mini rig has been in the hardcase for a while as it can't support a 25mm enail setup. Would be fun to bring that one back to the rotation!

D-Nail-web-eDDB16-sideassemble__35747.1585767630.jpg


https://d-nail.com/16DDB-BMG/
 

FlyingLow

Team NO SLEEP!
That is awesome!! But I am not spending that tonight... do not spend that tonight. Please do not accidentally go buy that tonight. ARGH!
 

invertedisdead

Weapons of VAS Destruction
That is awesome!! But I am not spending that tonight... do not spend that tonight. Please do not accidentally go buy that tonight. ARGH!

:D it reminds me of the good old days when I could moderate and make 1g of wax last a month! I love all the new banger tech and inserts but I always feel obligated to do bigger dabs with bigger buckets, this little banger looks fun to play with, old school! Perfect for pairing with a little flavor saver sipper and enjoying life and cannabis :rockon:
 

FlyingLow

Team NO SLEEP!
I just don’t want to drop $300+.
I’m wondering if the cap is even necessary, or with the distance between coil and top of banger, if one might be able just finger cap this one.
 

Dubmonkey

Well-Known Member
It looks like it can be fingered. The channel cap is alright if you like tight restriction when doing the draw. I am impressed that some peeps can spin balls with their channel caps. I can’t with mine sitting on a Tbucket or 25mm.
 

acolyte

Well-Known Member
Anyone else have trouble getting all the concentrate off the forked dabber? I use a SiC halo with forked Ti dabber, been using it over a year and overall love it.

But I often get melted concentrate stuck between the two forks. I take small dabs, so I might actually be wasting a decent amount this way.

I've tried terp diamonds, shatter, sauce (ugh), wax, etc... after most of the dab melts off, I have a hard time getting "all" of it off. I try pressing the tool against the inner wall, the outer wall, just holding it on the bottom of the halo, etc. Sometimes I try to line the fork up with the edge of the halo so the edge goes "inside" the fork.

Sometimes it seems like it does get clean, and then more wax drips down from further up the handle.

I've taken to wiping it off on a paper towel after every dab to ensure maximum flavor, but it's shown me how much is not getting vaporized.

Am I way over-thinking this?
 

shredder

Well-Known Member
Anyone else have trouble getting all the concentrate off the forked dabber? I use a SiC halo with forked Ti dabber, been using it over a year and overall love it.

But I often get melted concentrate stuck between the two forks. I take small dabs, so I might actually be wasting a decent amount this way.

I've tried terp diamonds, shatter, sauce (ugh), wax, etc... after most of the dab melts off, I have a hard time getting "all" of it off. I try pressing the tool against the inner wall, the outer wall, just holding it on the bottom of the halo, etc. Sometimes I try to line the fork up with the edge of the halo so the edge goes "inside" the fork.

Sometimes it seems like it does get clean, and then more wax drips down from further up the handle.

I've taken to wiping it off on a paper towel after every dab to ensure maximum flavor, but it's shown me how much is not getting vaporized.

Am I way over-thinking this?

IDK if this will help, but I store my trimming scissors in a glass of olive oil. The resins melt into it.

Perhaps you could get a container that you could put oil in and the oil level covered the fork. You'd still have to wipe it off before use but the oil would pick up the concentrates off your fork and you could use that oil in medibles. Along the same lines a jar of alcohol would be handy to rinse the fork and you could use that alcohol. Just a thought.

As a grower and presser I probably waste quite a bit. It'd be different if I had to buy my gear I suppose. I don't use the oil I store my scissors in but it keeps them clean. A quick wipe and they're ready to go.
 

LesPlenty

Well-Known Member
I would say if you are really chasing pure taste, ditch using the fork and get a glass dabber.
I did not like the fork and just pushed a wine cork onto it as a heat shield so it lives on the Halo.
I don't have a glass dabber I just like my Ti Happy Daddy The Globfather more, I wipe it on a S/S mesh or hemp fiber for vaping once they get enough build up.
 

acolyte

Well-Known Member
Interesting... I saw a lot of people liked the forked dabber for heat dissipation, I could not find anyone on the internet saying they don't like the forked dabber :D

I used to have a glass pen dabber but I gave it away because it seemed even harder to keep clean, because it was so thick and the goo would run an inch up the tip, and it would roll around.

I'm not really chasing taste so much, I just like to keep my stuff clean, and I'm kinda obsessive. I used to use an HE Ti flat tip, which overall I loved, but I wanted a dabber/carb cap combo (I hate having the dabber roll around or having to put it somewhere special so it doesn't get oil everywhere). At the time, d-nail didn't offer the flat tip with the carb cap as a combo, and now they don't sell the flat tip handle at all :(

That's a great idea to put it on a S/S mesh... except overall I really don't like concentrates in my vapcap or sticky brick. They just get smelly and I feel like I waste a huge amount of oil... just like coil pens. The olive oil is a decent idea too but I think it would be too messy for the small amounts I use.

That said, I do ingest RSO frequently. Maybe I could wipe it on a piece of dark chocolate or something.

I have really loved my SiC halo, but d-nail really is a weird company, bad website, weird product discontinuations, and confusing product combinations. It's a wonder they stay in business, but I guess they got my money :)

My main goals are:

- Keeping the dabber clean of reclaim and random debris
- Keeping oil off my desk
- Getting all the oil in my nail
- Ease of use with shatter, pull-n-snap, and terp sauce consistency

I think I'll have to make or get a holder for my HE flat tip (hope I still have it), or maybe buy one of those katana style dabbers I've seen you on about @FlyingLow

Edit: I also just emailed d-nail about the flat tip so we'll see what they say :hmm:
 
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