Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

[Betdwn]

If the app is reading the Crafty, try a 'reset to default settings'. You could also do a reset without the app, by holding Crafty's button in for, idk, like ten seconds which would trip some lights coming on for a few seconds -- assuming there's enough charge in the battery for that...
Not that I think this is the problem, but there's a switch in the app that can disable the lights (or dim them all the way). Maybe that's be tripped, a reset would reset that as well.
If you get nothing (no vibration either?) when you plug into the charger, you may have a bad cord or bad wall charger. Try some other usb setup.

Tried the wall charger and usb and still no blue charge light.

I think it may be a the unit, the usb charger was able to charge my speakers that uses the same input connection via usb.

 

[Thcgos]

3 hours on my crafty and on the first charge I left it overnight after fully draining the battery.

Woke up in the morning and found out the crafty does not turn on.

I then tried to charge the unit but blue light did not turn on.

Any thoughts on what could be the problem?

v2.08 sn:034xxx


Just checked and app could no longer find the Crafty.

Checked the chord on the crafty again and still no blue light.

Try a whole new cable and charger... Sometimes the cable/chargers go on them (or any device for that matter).

Others have resolve similar issues by doing this.

 

[vapviking]

Tried the wall charger and usb and still no blue charge light.

I think it may be a the unit, the usb charger was able to charge my speakers that uses the same input connection via usb.

Guess this is one reason Crafty owners keep a backup vape on hand.

 

[Thcgos]

Guess this is one reason Crafty owners keep a backup vape on hand.

Like many other vapes these days to be honest. Look at the failure rate at the grasshopper thread. People on there 6th warranty return in a few months!

It's truly ridiculous, sometimes I get disillusioned with the industry.

Luckily my crafty has been rock solid so far (fingers crossed).

Edit: Although my friends has just recently crapped out at only ~70hrs, he had to pay AUD$120 for battery replacement.
I would have been furious if they said this to me.

 

[MeditativeMind]

Like many other vapes these days to be honest. Look at the failure rate at the grasshopper thread. People on there 6th warranty return in a few months!

It's truly ridiculous, sometimes I get disillusioned with the industry.

Luckily my crafty has been rock solid so far (fingers crossed).

Edit: Although my friends has just recently crapped out at only ~70hrs, he had to pay AUD$120 for battery replacement.
I would have been furious if they said this to me.

The Crafty is one of the most expensive portable vaporizers. The only portable that is more expensive is its bigger brother the Mighty (AFAIK). Also, S&B has been in the game for at least a decade. The Grasshopper is not that expensive in comparison and it came out of a nowhere startup company through crowd funding. It's not fair to compare the two.

If you're dishing out this much money for a high-end Rolls Royce type product from a well-known, established company you would expect A LOT less units failing. I hope their warranty process is a breeze for the folks who have defective units.

 

[Betdwn]

The Crafty is one of the most expensive portable vaporizers. The only portable that is more expensive is its bigger brother the Mighty (AFAIK). Also, S&B has been in the game for at least a decade. The Grasshopper is not that expensive in comparison and it came out of a nowhere startup company through crowd funding. It's not fair to compare the two.

If you're dishing out this much money for a high-end Rolls Royce type product from a well-known, established company you would expect A LOT less units failing. I hope their warranty process is a breeze for the folks who have defective units.

I hope so too brother, I've just kicked off the warranty process.

Its a great unit when its working.

 

[joeblowssmoke]

I hope so too brother, I've just kicked off the warranty process.

Its a great unit when its working.

I agree it truly is a great device. I'm on my third one and can confirm with an earlier post that overheating is what causes them to die. I've overheated all of mine regularly (as I believe they should be able to take the abuse) and that seems to be what kills them. I'm hoping S&B doesn't release a new device but rather finds a way to get this problem fixed. I'm hoping the crafty can last years after its warranty, like the volcano.

 

[Thcgos]

The Crafty is one of the most expensive portable vaporizers. The only portable that is more expensive is its bigger brother the Mighty (AFAIK). Also, S&B has been in the game for at least a decade. The Grasshopper is not that expensive in comparison and it came out of a nowhere startup company through crowd funding. It's not fair to compare the two.

If you're dishing out this much money for a high-end Rolls Royce type product from a well-known, established company you would expect A LOT less units failing. I hope their warranty process is a breeze for the folks who have defective units.

That's right ... That's why people on 6+ warranty returns in a few months with their Grasshoppers... You dont see that same failure rate here.

Regardless lots of other vapes have problems too. I'm saying all companies should step up their game.

 

[vapviking]

That's right ... That's why people on 6+ warranty returns in a few months with their Grasshoppers... You dont see that same failure rate here.

Regardless lots of other vapes have problems too. I'm saying all companies should step up their game.

Yes, even S&B, with 10 year long history, rolled out two portables that have some amount of troubles. We can be sure they're in development with next gen. or whatever.
I do agree they work great.
But it's a very fast moving game, this whole vape industry (well, maybe not lightspeed over at Hopper Labs!) and the commercial shakeout is going to go on for many years.

We search for the swell, ride the wave.

 

[King87]

That heatup time is too long. With only 3 hours, your Crafty should be heating up from 20c to 180c in LESS than 2 mins. More like 1:45. .

Just tried timing it again on a full charge... from room temp to 180C it took 1:40... much better.

Also for the first time I put a new strain through the Crafty, and had a much longer session with cloud after cloud.... pleased with this!

 

[biohacker]

Good to hear dude, that is a perfect textbook heatup time for a brand new battery! That time is great, it's when the battery wears and it turns into 2:45+ that it becomes annoying for me. Same with a partial charge, it takes longer, maybe 2 mins+.... maybe give that a shot for your next experiment.

Strains make a HUGE difference!!!!

 

[tdriver]

Good to hear dude, that is a perfect textbook heatup...
...
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Strains make a HUGE difference!!!!

are there any pointers what is considered "a better strain" to vape??

in my part of the world variety is close to non-existent....

 

[Techn!d0n]

A quick question for the crafty owners out there, what is the lowest temp this thing can go?

 

[Vapinmofo]

I have taken my crafty into indoor and outdoor venues. It's plastic it looks weird and they ignore it. Because it's in your pocket.
Do not worry. Do use the app to turn OFF the lights. So at the show you are not drawing attention your self as you vape.

Now at shows I tend to not share... most people at shows are cumbusting not vaporizing.... I find that keeping the crafty charging while not in use is very easy and insures a steady session. All that said. I have NO DOUBT that a mighty would be a better choice for shows. More robust. Hey I have a crafty and I use it at shows and it's an awesome device for personal use or maybe with a buddy...

 

[Stu]

A quick question for the crafty owners out there, what is the lowest temp this thing can go?

40°C/104°F

 

[Techn!d0n]

40°C/104°F

Thanks, is it cooler than the solo?

 

[Stu]

Thanks, is it cooler than the solo?

Solo's lowest temperature is 50°C IIRC. That's for the "aromatherapy bowl" and not useful for making vapor. The second setting is about 100°C hotter.

Crafty lets you choose any temp between 40° and 210°C. I don't think anything under 150°C would be much fun, though.

 

[Techn!d0n]

Solo's lowest temperature is 50°C IIRC. That's for the "aromatherapy bowl" and not useful for making vapor. The second setting is about 100°C hotter.

Crafty lets you choose any temp between 40° and 210°C. I don't think anything under 150°C would be much fun, though.

I'm sorry that I have not been clear as to the vapor in terms or temp of the draw. But to see that you can have a lot of control is a good thing. I bet the taste is as good as the solo.

 

[Vapinmofo]

Hey folks. I was fooling around this evening in the kitchen and I found some cool straws that I purchased from http://www.amazon.com/straws-reusab...54216915&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=reusable+straw



They cost 5.97.

So here is the deal. These cool colored LONG silicone tubes fit perfectly over the end of the cooling unit draw straw. Extending it some 10 inches. Thats ten inches of COOLING. Making for nice cool pulls at higher temps of when boosting the temp. the other way this could be used is by putting the crafty in your vest inside pocket pull out the long straw and go for it!!.

I noticed that my crafty has 32 hours on it. I timed initial heating time and it took almost exactly 2 minutes to heat to 355.

The crafty battery has a finite life bottom line. This is the core of the Crafty's problem.
Heat is the enemy of LiOn batteries.
I almost always immediately put mine on charge. I rarely run my battery down. I have never fully depleted it before getting it onto charge.

from Batteryuniversery.com:

• [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Heat increases battery performance but shortens life by a factor of two for every 10°C increase above 25–30°C (18[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]°[/FONT]F above 77–86[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]°[/FONT]F). Keep the battery cool.[/FONT]
• [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Prevent over-discharging. Cell reversal can cause an electrical short.[/FONT]
• [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]On high load and repetitive full discharges, reduce stress by using a larger battery.[/FONT]
• [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A moderate DC discharge is better for a battery than pulse and agitated loads.[/FONT]
• [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A battery exhibits capacitor-like characteristics when discharging at high frequency. This allows higher peak currents than is possible with a DC load.[/FONT]
• [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nickel-and lithium-based batteries have a fast chemical reaction; lead acid is sluggish and requires a few seconds to recover between heavy loads.[/FONT]
• All batteries suffer stress when stretched to maximum permissible tolerances.

Anyway, enjoy your Crafty made vapor!!

 

[UniqueCrafty]

I bet the taste is as good as the solo.

Sorry but your wrong... Its better

 

[Crafty Vaper]

Sorry but your wrong... Its better

Much better!

 

[Thcgos]

I'm sorry that I have not been clear as to the vapor in terms or temp of the draw. But to see that you can have a lot of control is a good thing. I bet the taste is as good as the solo.

The crafty is undoubtedly cooler and smoother than the solo (it's a more noticeable difference at higher temps).

The flavour on the solo is definitely better for the first 2 draws, but then goes downhill very very quickly and eventually gets a burnt popcorn taste.
The crafty has good flavour almost all the way through until the end.
I'd choose the crafty, because sometimes on the solo I would ditch a bowl (even if it had something left) because I couldn't be bothered with the flavour.
But every now and the I crave that solo first hit flavour.

 

[Modicum]

Hey Vapinmofo, How does the crafty get by the security wands & metal detectors at these venues?

 

[Vapinmofo]

Hey Vapinmofo, How does the crafty get by the security wands & metal detectors at these venues?

I don't know... Except to say I have never been stopped or asked I just walk through they do what they do... Maybe it's the force?
Just do it.
They are not looking for vaporizers they are looking for guns and bottles of booze

 

[ligi]

Had a friend with Android wear around for a little hack session today: